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p2p_Sir_Link 05-26-2006 12:58 AM

Massokre (Unsuprisingly) Strikes Again!
 
using an NPC to change my name, and editing my attributes to change my outfit, has gotten me jailed for harassment that I never gave out. His astonishing ability to abuse like hell and not receive punishment (regardless of how many support tickets are made) is absolutely amazing. He has earned a global ban more than any hacker out there.

Lyndzey 05-26-2006 01:05 AM

According to Master Storm: "Well, to my knowledge, we only have a thing for changing tags (for events n things). Kevin is a bit of a problem player, so I take most his claims with a pinch of salt. I also see nothing in RC logs about recent script changes."

It's a difficult situation for a global staff member. Do we believe the LAT Admin, with support by the Manager, or do we believe a common trouble maker?

Andy0687 05-26-2006 01:08 AM

I am in this thread before it gets deleted due to "PWA Issue".

I will also keep my opinion on this matter to myself since thats what they want us to do!

Mark Sir Link 05-26-2006 01:14 AM

Trouble maker indeed: allow me to provide some reference to this Trouble Maker, actually known as Massokre.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=62382

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64157

First event was confirmed by Globals, at which point Massokre was given a slap on the wrist. Unsure of the second.

Why, after these two events, would you put something past this petty idiot, with a clear hatred of me for reasons unseen.

Lyndzey 05-26-2006 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link
Why, after these two events, would you put something past this petty idiot, with a clear hatred of me for reasons unseen.

I'm not putting hatred towards you. I just cannot prove that Massokre was doing those things to you, so you cannot expect me to punish him without proof.

maximus_asinus 05-26-2006 01:27 AM

I'm sick of this, we make no progress when it comes to Massokre and putting an end to his corruption.

First off, not to insult Storm, but he has no clue what is happening on his server. DC has an NPC which he was using only yesterday which allowed him to change the person's nickname and guild. There were several other questionable NPCs on the server not 3 months ago when I worked as LAT, even the NPC that Massokre used to try and give Kevin a seizure, but I'll talk about that further down. Storm just blindly defends Massokre, as does several others, when it is so obvious he is at fault, the admins turn a blind eye to these illegal actions.

There has been several examples of his illegal behavour, shall we take a glimpse into the past? The first thing I remember was back when Kevin tried to quit LAT, and in response, Massokre added an NPC which was intended to give Kevin a seizure. A fews weeks later, another NPC added to his inventory which added the pics1.png tileset to wherever Kevin went (preventing him from moving around). Now we have another example, changing the player's nickname, all these things done against Kevin. There was one occasion when Massokre added an NPC to warp me around the GMAP rapidly, causing the screen to flash, details found here.

What you call trouble making is Kevin's legitimate complaints about corruption. I think you should get your facts straight before accusing anyone.

Oh and I think I'll just add that if you wished, I could provide history of past events where Massokre admitted to a certain crime, or has described his hatred for Kevin, which is why he continually attacks him.

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Originally Posted by Lyndzey
Unless 4+ staff members have some sort of grudge against Kevin and are making up every incident, he is considered a trouble maker.

Massokre has Storm backing what he does, and Stryker isn't much help either, he has had a grudge against Kevin for years.

Lyndzey 05-26-2006 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus
What you call trouble making is Kevin's legitimate complaints about corruption. I think you should get your facts straight before accusing anyone.

My facts come from the ban and jailing logs. He has been banned and jailed for general harassment multiple times by different staff members. Unless 4+ staff members have some sort of grudge against Kevin and are making up every incident, he is considered a trouble maker.

I am not trying to single out Kevin as the only bad guy here. I believe that Massokre should have been punished more severely for his past actions, but it's not my place to determine that. This is a job for Master Storm, so complain about it to him and not the globals. PWA is in shambles right now, so there isn't much they can do for you.

Polo 05-26-2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus
First off, not to insult Storm, but he has no clue what is happening on his server. DC has an NPC which he was using only yesterday which allowed him to change the person's nickname and guild. There were several other questionable NPCs on the server not 3 months ago when I worked as LAT, even the NPC that Massokre used to try and give Kevin a seizure, but I'll talk about that further down. Storm just blindly defends Massokre, as does several others, when it is so obvious he is at fault, the admins turn a blind eye to these illegal actions.

It's unrealistic to expect me to know exactly what every player is doing on the server. I am/was unaware as to any nick changing NPC's, and I have even looked through all the scripts recently for strange things. I will speak with you properly first, but I will look into this. The claim that I blindy defend Massokre is unfounded. I look into all complaints I recieve, and even stated to Lyndzey that I would look further into this incident. :\

Andy0687 05-26-2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyndzey
My facts come from the ban and jailing logs. He has been banned and jailed for general harassment multiple times by different staff members.

Speaking directly from experince when you are dealing with a high staff member who has many of his friends on staff, you are likely going to run into some trouble for things that most people would turn away from, its how people drive other people off of servers that they dont like, and its been going on before now, so its not new. Its power.

Quote:

This is a job for Master Storm, so complain about it to him and not the globals.
Sadly I can see Master Storms standing, even if Massokre is doing all of this stuff (which I have no reason to believe he isnt). I can sit back as an outside viewer, and say that nothing would be done. The reason is pretty simple, Massokre has some amazing scripting talent.

But thats about all.

Without him the whole server is on Storm to do, not good.

Darlene159 05-26-2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo
It's unrealistic to expect me to know exactly what every player is doing on the server. I am/was unaware as to any nick changing NPC's, and I have even looked through all the scripts recently for strange things. I will speak with you properly first, but I will look into this. The claim that I blindy defend Massokre is unfounded. I look into all complaints I recieve, and even stated to Lyndzey that I would look further into this incident. :\

...and with that, this thread which batently breaks the forum rules will be closed.
Should have went to the Manager to begin with....


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