Is anything being done?
 

I've played here for over a year now nd noticed not much changed.
This is meant to be the main server of graal online and nothing has happened.
not much in anyways, same old monsters, lack of players.

And there isn't much staff for development.

Gk gets a lot of money yearly due to subscribers how come you guys not have more paid staff? unixmads has 2 if not more online games.

Is the Gk staff doing anything productive lately too?
Any new improvements?
Gk has removed some of it's best features to reduce lag, such as lord taming and such X.x

Now a year later i looked back and it's almost the same as then.

The people make this game great. for an RPG the game should be great and the people follow.

Any idea on what the developers are doing lately??

i'm starting to get grief by players by submitting ideas. thing is i'm getting bored of this game. i want it better!

There are other games that are cheaper and lot higher gfxed and more populated.

So this is probably one of my last ideas i'm going to send.

Please, someone tell me what you guys are doing for the server.
I'm starting to get bored with it.

There are lots of staffs. Every kingdom has own developers. There abe about 2-3 people for 1 kingdom on Debug. But those do nothing. In my optinion we have this problem becasue of the kingdom leaders. They hire developers who don't develop, they only hire them because the leader and the person are friends and the leader wants to give them Debugaccess.

Maybe you should think about before you post a few things. Because we announced yesterday a really big change of the message systems on GK.
Lars edited most of the code and added improvements. I'm not sure but maybe you noticed that you get informations about the quest tasks now and this in a special color. Also Treasurecave messages like the left time is displayed in some special color now because it was almost impossible to see it because there were lots of messages from killing monsters.

I can remember but I don't think you took part in my big Graal Worker event. Maybe you should have done it or just a look on the screenshots. You would have seen a preview of the new weather system.

Compared to some servers you have nothing to complain about. The server I play gets updated so few times that we had christmas items up until a month ago.

But thats classic
 

Your server is a classic server?

we pay to play te server GK.
Thats why i am so steamed when stuff ain't getting done there.

Well, make some suggestions then!

Of course, Kingdoms does have a lot of staff, some which focus on the overall development while others have kingdom leaders, which have their own developers to develop their own kingdoms.

I think some new maps should be released, some things which don't involve items. Though, no one wishes to comment on these things. Even though, I know major changes are happening. :):)

You named me a name of a Zormite Developer that rarely appears online, and that has no contact to me or Googi.

I think there should be only more staffs, and some, who would do some works for kingdom leaders. Those Kingdom Developers most likely become unemployed when the king changes, and that happens quite regularly on gk.

I think what we need is not just more developpers for the kingdoms but rather for the server itself. Main island and the game oveall doesnt update much. Graal Worker was a long event, not a change, and it was too long ago. These kind of things should happen much more often. I believe the current Dev staff isnt large enough to meet the players' demands, and more should be hired. Basically, I don't think it's kingdom developpers we want and lack, but rather server developpers.

A great idea to prevent further complaints from players from arising would be a system which lets players see what is being worked on and by when it should be done (it should say which month and whcih year it should be done by, unless the project will be done soon, then we can be told about the week or exact date). This way, development projects will be taken to the end and players will stick around to see what the updates will look like. Too many times have I heard 'its being worked on' and then waited for over a year to find out the project will never be completed. With this system, stuff should happen. I think this could be just a sign somewhere in bomboria, maybe in front of the tradehouse, that people can read to find out what's to come on GK. This would also be a great attraction to trials. This addition could just be a simple sign in front of bomboria Tradehouse.

thing is.
 

We have lots of suggestions. and ideas. we just need to make it happen.

if any of you playershave any stuff that can help staff please submit it to them!

I did take part in the event but i'm talking about 24/7 updated stuff.
like the spell system ect.

Stuff like more quests. maybe quests where it envolved killing a certain npc which is hard. xD

No, I play zone. a GOLD server that's neglected beyond reasoning so that stefan can work on this one. -.-"

What the heck? At most we're hiring people to do castle redesigns. It's the non-kingdom developers who are supposed to create important server content.

I made a new item for Samurai, Stefan made the scripts, I made the levels, Donald made the graphics. Everything was complete but it was never moved into the game.

You don't have Debug.

It depends on who you hear such things from. People ask me when some things are finished I never even heared from. But they think such things will be released just because someone stated this rumour.

I know you have lots of suggestions but only suggestions don't help. If you have one you can also work on it to get it released. Means script, do GFX, ganis or whatever for it.

The overall stuff yes. But the kingdom island stuff is also very important and not only for the kingdoms itself, it's also important for the whole server. You let is sound like that this is nothing..
And redesign is not really a new innovation since the zormite was castle changed not that long ago.

He meant you give him the name of a developer of Zormite he never heard about, I guess REW_darklink200 which is not active anymore with this account.

There is only Damix 2 who moved from Samurai to Zormite after Googi said so.

Hey I have an idea. Bjorn is complaining about Kingdom developers not doing anything, so let's "develop" a kingdom mode.

Googi has officially been elected probate judge.

Hey, when the staff won't do it for you, the players do it. That's how usurping works on graal, isn't it?

I tried to do this with rock owner tags. Twice. But of course there was to debug or kingdom developers at that time.

I think that with the suggestion part of the forums, the kingdom staff should do what the people suggest, and if people dont like it, staff can remove it. I wouldnt be that hard, since they barely do anything anyways. Sam usually takes PMs and fixes something when it is needed and I see bjorn on very little now adays that nothing is getting done. Pick some Suggestive topics, script them and make them to vote on, like the hair styles!!!!

There is somethign you must realize. We pay for this game. We are customers. I wouldn't go to a bakery and tell the baker that I'll bake my own cake and then I'll pay for it. Players should have nothing to do with the development of the server. That's why we pay. We pay so that you can make graal for us. We are customers, not workers. Every single little bit of development should be done by paid staff. Not once in my life have I gone to eat at a restaurant and they have told me to cook my own burger. This is exacty what you are doing, and you make it sound normal. You are abusing volunteers and taking them for granted. If you want graal to run this way, then I don't see why we should be paying.

You're on to something, Tao. Do you get to do stuff yourself on some of the more popular MMORPGs? Heck no! We have little or no say in this.

But one thing that made Graal a hit was all about the doing stuff ourselves. Graal would be quite different if none of the players made anything for the server themselves. :\

Okay, let's just shut down every server, then.
No, he isn't, sadly. You are more correct when you say:
Tao, if you don't feel it's right to have players run the game, that's tough, because that's the way it going to be.

I agree that players should continue to have an active role in development on kingdoms. But perhaps a bit of help from paid staff on the gold servers seems reasonable. Especially considering the level of gfx, scripting, editing, and gani creation is expected to be much higher quality than on a normal PW.

Exactly!

So I wonder why that much consumers want access to Debug. I think this should be cancelled then or ?

I don't understand why you would resort to a threat simply because we are requesting that some of the ideas released to and by staff can actually see the light of day? No one's claiming that there should be no player volunteer development, just maybe a bit more from the other side would be nice.

I heard stefan doing scripts for example for era, why doesnt he invest the time he would use for era, for GK? Maybe working on gk all the time is monotonous, but people pay for playing it, and currently rather zone or forum access is a reason for upgrading, then graal kingdoms.

I did not say something against releasing or doing ideas from players. I just said in general that it's false that nothing is being done like quite a few people said.
Maybe only because they can't see the progress or anything of it because there are other things we do first it does not mean nothing is beeing done. There are also updates no player even notices about. Improving scripts, speeding up things etc..

I'm not saying that I don't think players should run the server. I think it's a great idea. But if we are running the server, then we shouldn't be paying for it. Why pay for our own services? There just isn't enough staff involvement, and I'm talking paid staff. Not people like Sam or anything. I mean Bjorn and Stefan. And I do understand that two people can't handle everything, that's why more paid staff should be hired. This would be more costly, but it would also increase the playercount if there are more updates, thus increasing inome to pay for the new employees.

Most people want access to debug for the wide possiblities that it offers, not to work on the server. They do end up working on the server since they don't wanna lose debug.

Amazing how the playercount halfs every year and the staff dont even notice and still come on the forums saying "Hey were updating things new stuff happening all the time!!" Bjorn could you give us a list of the things you have done for GK this year?

Yes Bjorn, please do, I would like to see how much you really have done!

Well for example Magic is a bit update.

But its a too big update, they should work on more things at the same time, like maps and so on, instead of giving out few updates noone needs to much (except magic).

Iam paying for p2p and Id rather see new maps and many more possibilites, then newbies idling and bugging anyone in bomboria.

I don't write everything down after I did it. I have better things to do, this is just useless and wastes time I can use for other things. I don't think there is anyone who always writes does what he does.
But I can write down a few thing that pop up in my mind if you like to.

I did one of the biggest events this year. But well, I did not see you both for quite some time so I guess you don't even know that I hosted a really big Graal Worker Event.
Also development for the easterevents was done by me. Well, eventsdevelopment is a big part of what I do since there is always something that the Events Master need for new events.
Like Darklux already mentioned, the new magic and the new Bomboria we did. It was mainly Stefans work but I helped him with it.
I help players almost everyday with problems. Not only answering questions how things work and punishing people who act against the rules. I also fix bugs if someone can move anymore or upload playerhouses.
But not only those, I also upload the levels from kingdoms if there are some and I have to check every of level for illegal things and if everything works. I do it but you don't even know about it.

Anyway I don't need to justify myself just because you want to know what work I did. There are things you don’t even see and notice.

I think I do a good job but If you think I do a bad job, please contact Stefan and Unixmad and tell them. ((Don't say there is no way to contact them like some people do because there are enough ways.)) Thank you.

I know I created a previous post within this thread, but the people are correct, to some extent, in me own opinion.

I think a main problem that Kingdoms has is that there is nothing "new" that can be added, to the current Kingdoms. Sure, Kingdom leaders can keep changing their islands to add new things, but in the end, it's just items which make two sides to the world, the poor and the rich, which isn't fun.

Kingdoms needs development improvement, correct. The magic update was a huge update, which was nice, besides the overpowering of the magic, which was fixed, but it was nice to have nice effects for the magic spells, I guess it made the world a bit more real for what is paid.

Other than that, I agree, as I said, Kingdoms needs development improvement. Though, I don't know what else can be put on the current islands and overworld. Getting town to town on the main island overworld isn't hard, it doesn't take much time to get to those places. It's not like I have to travel through a forest with a lot of paths to get there, which would be cool. That's a solution though. As people said, Kingdoms needs new maps. Maps that are both close and far from the main island overworld and islands for kingdoms. Perhaps islands which take some time to get to from boat, then other places can be reached travelling with groups of people, whether friends or kingdom members. That's what's needed, well, I think so. I think that what should be focused upon. If a suggestion wants to be made, I think it's better to tell Bjoern, Sam, or Stefan in private, through forum private message or GraalOnline Support Center, for one reason, it'll be something added to the game as an update, a surprise, rather than waiting for people to expect it. I mean, serious, think Kingdom leaders need Debug to develop their own Kingdom? To some extent, right, but other than that, I don't think current Kingdoms need to develop more, but go back to the aspect of being active within their own kingdom, to keep kingdoms going.

I for one know that Stefan has some plans for Kingdoms, which will be a huge improvement to the world which is paid for, though I do see where people are coming from, because I know small improvements throughout the week is better than a big improvement throughout months.

Of course, I'm wondering, on a serious note. I've requested Stefan to add support to the terrian GMAPs (which I won't mention what options, but it'll be nice) to alter Kingdoms a bit, alternations that will add new maps to Kingdoms, such as beaches, caves, forests, etc. (won't name other special maps because it'll ruin effects and surprises), but what would like to be seen on these new maps? Like, I understand new items will be nice to have, but what else? I think other things should be added, perhaps things that will encourage ROLEPLAYING! Whatever though, but if someone has ideas on what can be added, new quests, or whatever it could be, just state it here or in private, it'll be nice to hear opinions on what is wanted. I know it's been mentioned in other threads, but this seems like a serious discussion, so it should be taken somewhere.

Oh, and one last thing, Bjoern and Sam do a nice job on Kingdoms. Both do a lot of work, don't blame them because both can't just change the world how both wish for it to be changed. Remember, both of them work for GraalOnline, meaning like you wait for them, they have to wait on GraalOnline to approve of things.

If you actually do upload playerhouses, could you check my support ticket that has been up for over three weeks with no answer?

I upload playerhouses but I'm not able to restore destroyed playerhouses.
So I guess you was the one who asked me some time ago to restore his destroyed house, correctly? I said I don't have rights to backups to restore destroyed houses. A house has a mudnpc on the map and how should I put it back if I don't have a backup of it?

I just want the level back. I still have it saved on my computer. I have no need for it to be the same level as it was before, as long as it looks the same. I paid my event coins for it, and just because I did not have money to renew, the house fell down. If you want, I can send you the level, it is the custom one I designed about a year ago

This is something else... I was told to restore the house. This means the complete house with the items and things in it. You should have said you want the level-style back. This is no problem since I have the level myself anyway.

Okay then, glad we could sort that out. Of course I would have liked to get the items back, but that is no big deal. When it gets uploaded, let me know. I need to drop stuff off which I've been carrying incase they disappear when the house comes back

Just contact me on GK and we can do it. I need numbers and some things.

I also still need my IP range secured for debug. :whatever:

I've a few things I'd like to work on, and I can't do so without being able to modify stuff.