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Tom 04-14-2006 03:32 AM

Malinko related
 
I thought id make this thread just to open some eyes, because i thinks its really unfair when you talk of the PWA as one and saying that they are'nt working hard. When in actual fact Malinko is working really hard answering your support tickets, and hes defernately the most active.

Just showing that someone here is thankful for his work and should be thanked for trying real hard even when hes slagged off.

And to make sure its clear, im not sucking up ^_^ I have no need to suck up to Malinko. Hope ive wrenched some eyes open there.

If you do want to have a go at PWA, dont aim it at Malinko, also notice how he replys to all the attacks made to PWA showing hes active :D, RAR!!

<3 all!

Crono 04-14-2006 03:49 AM

As I said before. His negative actions of the past are shadowed by his positive attributes of today.

VulcanP2P 04-14-2006 03:53 AM

I have to agree. Malinko helps out a lot with his PWA duties. Heck, I even tried to copy and paste his support center logs but the forums only allow a certain ammount of characters per post...and that was only for this week! Also, when I mean copy and paste I also mean remove Ticket IDs. :megaeek:

Matt 04-14-2006 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
As I said before. His negative actions of the past are shadowed by his positive attributes of today.

I agree.

Chris 04-14-2006 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
As I said before. His negative actions of the past are shadowed by his positive attributes of today.

Ditto

Eagle 04-14-2006 06:09 AM

Malinko is a good guy and a hard worker. Thanks! :)

maximus_asinus 04-14-2006 06:17 AM

Malinko is a terrorist.

I don't mind Malinko. From the times I've dealt with him, he has been quite helpful, but there has been incidents where he has come accross as a bad person.

Eponefive 04-14-2006 06:33 AM

true it happens everywhere, cant stop the haters from ruining a hard working team.

Draenin 04-14-2006 06:45 AM

I was so not expecting this to be a praise thread.

Mal's okay, but the allusion to ICP pesters me a bit. (Even if it's not intentional, still bugs me, but I guess it's better than some.)

Chris 04-14-2006 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eponefive
true it happens everywhere, cant stop the haters from ruining a hard working team.

We have legitimate reasons...

Chicken_l33t 04-14-2006 06:57 AM

Malinko rocks and he helps out alot and the crap in his past should be left alone and you all should get the hell over it.

Thanks again Malinko (100 millionth time i've said that)

Mogwai 04-14-2006 08:01 AM

He might help a lot on the support side...

but as I have heard... he does a lot of bad. And when I say bad I mean BAD.

napo_p2p 04-14-2006 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogwai
but as I have heard... he does a lot of bad. And when I say bad I mean BAD.

Like the recommissioned watermelons incident.

*twitches*

Warcaptain 04-14-2006 08:34 AM

Malinko is a great PWA so long as he doesn't have too much (if any) power.

I will agree with that. But unfortunately I get the feeling a lot of times that he is only doign these great things because he WANTS to have power. Stefan came on Mana Realms once to talk to me about some things I needed for NPC-Server and Malinko logged on out of no where and would not stop talking about Stefan making him PWA Admin and firing the rest of the team so he could hire a team for himself. x_x

I don't mind Malinko so long as he continues to and only CAN do what he can do right now.. with more power he will be corrupted which is sad but true. x_x

I do not mean this as a dis to Malinko, its just some peoples personality do not do well in power.

NeoJenova 04-14-2006 09:55 AM

Reading this thread made me think of the following quotes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Brin
It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert F. Kennedy
The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use - of how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public.


-Ching 04-14-2006 01:29 PM

I have one!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Some person
You can't please everyone


Infernix 04-14-2006 03:14 PM

As someone who has worked and is working with Malinko, Ill admit he is just a power hungry noob..yet he goes about getting power in a minipulative ways. Can't hate him for that though considering that most of us do it. He kinda plays the graal version of Survival of the fittest.

He inst a bad PWA though, I mean I personally dont think PWA is a hard job. I just think you all want more outa the PWA team than they techincally have to do.

Thallen 04-14-2006 04:10 PM

He's a decent PWA member, and your illusions are distorted as to think he's "good" only because every single other PWA member is absolutely horrible, bottom of the barrel, so I think you're in a sense overrating his effectiveness. He should be required to do his job well. I don't think he deserves particular praise. He lies quite often, he'll rush decisions simply to please one party, and it's pretty clear he's biased/favoritist with the whole Artanis deal.

Malinko 04-14-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warcaptain
Malinko is a great PWA so long as he doesn't have too much (if any) power.

I will agree with that. But unfortunately I get the feeling a lot of times that he is only doign these great things because he WANTS to have power. Stefan came on Mana Realms once to talk to me about some things I needed for NPC-Server and Malinko logged on out of no where and would not stop talking about Stefan making him PWA Admin and firing the rest of the team so he could hire a team for himself. x_x

I don't mind Malinko so long as he continues to and only CAN do what he can do right now.. with more power he will be corrupted which is sad but true. x_x

I do not mean this as a dis to Malinko, its just some peoples personality do not do well in power.

I don't care to comment on this thread at all, though I do care to comment about this post within the thread.

When I was on Mana Realms RemoteControl, this is when I first took notice of the Delteria tileset online. I remember being on RemoteControl, when Stefan was on, and asking him about things, which he told me --Chris-- can check to make sure. I remember earlier in the afternoon, I was on RemoteControl on the world I managed, opening up a private message, seeing Warcaptain asking me opinions of him being a member of the Playerworld Administration. In relation, back to Mana Realms RemoteControl, with Stefan, Warcaptain, and me, I remember Warcaptain stating, well, offering to be apart of the Playerworld Administration and talking non-stop about this, over and over. Then Stefan has a response which was similiar to, "Well, offering is nice, but in the end, it's unixmad's and mine decision to see who should be apart of the team." Then Stefan left RemoteControl, following me.

Of course, if I wish to comment on this, I should have backup. Though, according to the forum rules, if I wish to post chat logs in a thread, then I need premission from all parties agreeing that the chat log can be posted, which means I need premission from Stefan and Warcaptain. Though, I know what I know, and he can keep posting his version of what happened.

Other than that, continue with this thread, I have no comments at all on the rest of it, until I see a thing I wish to comment upon.

Zorganite 04-14-2006 05:17 PM

:rolleyes: quit the drama kids.

protagonist 04-14-2006 05:35 PM

Malinko is an alright PWA. I personally think he has done some things in bad to very bad taste, though. And I don't think those things should be forgotten since they weren't that long ago, and I think that if he had more power at the time, some very bad stuff would have gone down. It is also annoying that for some of this bad stuff he was not punished, but that is more Stefan's fault.

I'm sure he probably does a good job on the support desk, but that is not necessarily the sign of a good PWA. Anyone could do that, in theory.

Tom 04-14-2006 06:26 PM

Yea, anyone can do support tickets, but hes the only one that can really be bothered to respond to them. And i think hes really trying hard to make-up for the things hes done in the past, he deserves that chance :)

Okilian 04-14-2006 06:47 PM

Malinko, is interesting. He does do a lot of good, but every time he takes a step forward, somehow he's taking 3 steps back. I'll see if I can name a few personally. This isn't a bash post as much as...bringing stuff to light.

Artanis. Ok, I know they are a couple and all (RL/Online..whatever) but there have been too many times in which I've seen her get away with something, receive special benefits, or even items only because he has been there supporting her. When it comes to issues with Artanis, Malinko needs to step down and let someone else handle the situation, even if they are crappy. He has a strong bias and that's just not cool.

Scripting. Malinko, I tip my hat off to you on scripting. You have done a lot of amazing scripts. However, i've also seen you on many servers script personal items, even when you were warned not to (You were fired from UN once for that).

Power. Now, I have my own gripes here about you with power. I've seen you do some great things, like handle disputes in a great manner. I've also seen you handle disputes in which you become the third party and you benefit. You have upper management (stefan, etc) in your pocket, and you know this and use it to your benefit. When issues arise where it becomes a playerworld vs. you, somehow always stefan has your back. Not only that, but you threaten to use them whenever things do not go your way.


Malinko does well, but he has a lot to improve on in order for him to be an even better PWA. I think if he can try to stop questing for power, and just do jobs right there, he'd be a great PWA

coreys 04-14-2006 08:18 PM

I have mixed feelings about Malinko.

I love him for his hard working ethic, and his support of Aeon, amoung other servers. He does alot to help the graal community.

On the other hand he does alot to hurt the community, and can be a ruthless backstabber. He's backstabbed many people, including Calani. I'm sure that once Calani stopped getting on for awhile that he went to Stefan or someone and said "Hey, she doesn't get on, fire her and hire me." This amoung other things scared me when thinking of the power he could gain. I love him as long as he just does what he does now, which is work, work, and work.

MKxTortoise 04-14-2006 09:00 PM

I think Malinko is great :)

Yen 04-14-2006 09:31 PM

He's the same as every other Playerworld Admin.

I'll look into it.
*Two months later*
I'm still looking into it.
*Four months later*
Still investigating!
*A year later*
Yeah, still looking for more evidence.

Warcaptain 04-14-2006 09:39 PM

Yes, any of my tickets that Malinko answered simply said, "thanks for reporting it, ill tell Unixmad"

What he does on the support center almost makes them useless.. because he has no power to do anything (which is good) and whats the point of posting on the support center when its just a way to have a low level global tell unixmad what's wrong?

x_x

and Malinko:

Yes, when Stefan first got on he asked me about PWA because Ibonic and I had talked about it. I offered to help Ibonic out by doing PWA work becuase he was telling me that he was doing most of their work. You make it sound very much like I was pestering Stefan about me being PWA but we were discussing it, and you kept interjecting with asking him to fire the rest of PWA and make you PWA Admin and me PWA and we would hire new ones (like we were some team or something?) And then when Stefan and I started talking about layers you kept going on about PWA til he just said "x_x have to go" and left.. which btw caused us to have to wait over a week to get things fixed again -_-' and then you stayed on the PW for about an hour before I kicked you off.

So dont try to manipulate and fabricate what happened because I won't let you get away with it.

Link3001 04-14-2006 10:29 PM

I have nothing against Malinko.

Whenever I ask him a question through global PM, he awnsers it (I can be really silly :P).
And just yesterday he awnsered my support ticket after 5 minutes! Woohoo! Great to me, since I am really impatient.

So to me, he's great.

protagonist 04-14-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yen
He's the same as every other Playerworld Admin.

I'll look into it.
*Two months later*
I'm still looking into it.
*Four months later*
Still investigating!
*A year later*
Yeah, still looking for more evidence.

>=\

Obviously you didn't pay attention to me. I don't care about opinions on the other PWA, but I get annoyed when people are like "ALL PWA HAVE ALWAYS SUCKED".

Yen 04-14-2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist
>=\

Obviously you didn't pay attention to me. I don't care about opinions on the other PWA, but I get annoyed when people are like "ALL PWA HAVE ALWAYS SUCKED".

You aren't a PWA now, dear.

protagonist 04-14-2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yen
You aren't a PWA now, dear.

No, but there have been past PWA that have done well. *points to Jinx*

So every other PWA has not been bad.

Yen 04-15-2006 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist
No, but there have been past PWA that have done well. *points to Jinx*

So every other PWA has not been bad.

:( I'm not talking about past ones, I'm talking about the current ones.

excaliber7388 04-15-2006 12:45 AM

Malinko may goof around sometimes, but he is by far the most active PWA. How long does it take the other PWA's to start inspecting a playerworld? It took Malinko a few days to start and complete his inspection, and he explored quite a bit, and came on RC a bit as well.

Warcaptain 04-15-2006 12:53 AM

Active doesnt always mean good.. though unfortunately for us this is how Stefan see's it :(

Galdor 04-15-2006 02:45 AM

be quite noobs! malinko are and is great.

Crono 04-15-2006 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warcaptain
Active doesnt always mean good.. though unfortunately for us this is how Stefan see's it :(

What's the point of having an awesome PWA if he's inactive and taking a vacation in Africa? :3

Lord Sephiroth 04-15-2006 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galdor
be quite noobs! malinko are and is great.

Shush you, get drawing I need a new desktop!

Malinko 04-15-2006 04:54 AM

I heard Malinko doesn't even talk to 95% of the GraalOnline population, unless it's global staff related, so the people who slander him all the time don't know a single thing about him or what he does for GraalOnline all the time.

I'm sure Stefan knows I'm a bad member of the Playerworld Administration. In fact, a few months ago I was removed by Ibonic, and Stefan re-added me to the team, which he was quite upset that someone removed me. Then I remember talking to unixmad on Login RemoteControl telling me I was doing a great job!

Oh, Warcaptain, before I make another clever comment, I would like to ask this. Let's see, if you create a ticket at the GraalOnline Support Center reporting that the Graal.NET VIP Web Hosting doesn't work, then what else can I do? No one has rights to fix it, but unixmad. I remember in a thread a few weeks ago, you said it's better to have some response rather than none at all. Therefore, I assigned the ticket to unixmad and told you about it. I mean, what else am I supposed to do? HACK INTO THE MAIN FRAME OF GRAAL.NET AND FIX IT?! Hah. Oh right, that was the clever comment.

Edit: One thing, the reason I always assign your tickets to unixmad is because all the tickets you create deal with things unixmad can do. Then again, I remember one time, you created a ticket saying Alexander and I were ganging up on you about Mana Realms. Remember, when Alexander paid for the world and you removed this RemoteControl level, when he was infact the owner? Oh right, that ticket was assigned to unixmad too, because unixmad checked the PayPal information and saw the world belong to Alexander, and the world was restored back to him.

Thallen 04-15-2006 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malinko
I'm looking upon it.

I'll respond when I find enough information.

If Karai or however his named it spelt is making up all this, then
he'll be banned from GraalOnline. Simple as this.

Oh right, I think Ibonic mis-understood what I said to him when I
forwarded what Kirai said to him, because I did not speak what
he quoted.

There's a solid reason why Malinko is not a good PWA - like I said, he rushes bans and acts without proof, as you can tell by the third line.





Quote:

Originally Posted by Malinko
Right.

Cursing in mass messages on other worlds, harassing a number of people with a lot of complaints from people. I'm sure the punishment was unfair.

I think it's mis-understood. I have back up of what I've done on the global ban, but from what I've seen, Karai has done nothing wrong, but if I prove he has done a single thing wrong, then he shall be punished too. Stop assuming, it's bad.

??? Where's the proof? Please, let me see the proof. You have none, that's the problem. If I was cursing in mass message, I'd be being jailed on those servers, which has happened nowhere anytime recently. If I was harassing a 'number of people,' they could express use of the ignore feature. Why can't you admit that you do things wrong?

Malinko 04-15-2006 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
There's a solid reason why Malinko is not a good PWA - like I said, he rushes bans and acts without proof, as you can tell by the third line.

Right.

Cursing in mass messages on other worlds, harassing a number of people with a lot of complaints from people. I'm sure the punishment was unfair. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think it's mis-understood. I have back up of what I've done on the global ban, but from what I've seen, Karai has done nothing wrong, but if I prove he has done a single thing wrong, then he shall be punished too. Stop assuming, it's bad.


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