ZegaZega Update
 

We're about 50% done with everything.

Give us another 2 months and we'll ask for classic inspection after we upload to a server or something.

I'm interested due to (1) weird name (2) lack of disclosure!

Just read your other post on this, sounds interesting. Sanstrata rocked when it only had like 10 levels (and for a while afterwards with lots of them). I think servers that grow can be good. I'd start one, but not sure that I could commit to growing it ^^

I somehow doubt globals will like my server as it is directed to an older demographic, and it says so in the user agreement at the beginning of the server.

Which I made! lawlz.

O.o
Can't wait to see what is meant by this.

Interesting.

I would love for there to be some slightly more mature servers that require you to input your birthday to play them.

If it is kept within the rules and a nice world, then it's 100% legal!

Good luck!

Will there be more http://www.zomglol.net/src/1143174737068.gif?

Because if so, I am definately going to play.

There will be tons of that. ^^

And also a lot of

http://www.zomglol.net/src/1143771486795.jpg

Haha that's gold. Never seen it before...

You are the master of image linking. *bows*

I was asked to clerify what a more "Mature" server would be like. So I'll give you a rough outline of what we're allowing, where most playerworlds would not.

I am allowing people to swear at free will. I feel that if I make the servers main language dutch and then have everyone speak english, everything should be just fine.

I will not allow the use of v4 on the server. I find that the client is so laggy since it is constantly updating its IRC, new updates, server playlists on all servers, etc. that you are not able to work as good as you are supposted to be able too. For example, a person on v4 racing a person on v2 would lose because someone on IRC would ask a math question to #gscript and someone would give a complicated answer about pi and the general wonders of the universe to explain that 2(x) = 4 that x = 2.

I am allowing links to any website on the internet, reguardless of the content on it. Of course I'll ban people for linking to graal trainers, but on my server, I believe that everyone who lies about their age has probably seen porn or something similar already, so I need not censor them. Not only that, but I might find a few links myself in the process.

I will also allow random "fun" banning. This means that, for example, if I hate the head23.png, and someone goes and puts it on, I'll ban them to the noob-world for an hour because they put that head on.

There, thats a rough example of what is up. I believe that this is all allowed as long as all players say that they are 17+ in age. If they are not, then the server, nor Graal online, nor it's players are responsible. Thats why I'm currently working on a script, where if in the player profile they do not have 17, or some reasonable age in their profile, they get auto banned for not being 17+. I would say that our opldest player is probably going to be around 43. So anywhere from 17-43 should be allowed, and if Moonie gets banned I'll move it down to 17-26. ;)

Me too.

lol, so in other words, you are going to completely ignore the ToS, and the Graal rules that you agreed to when you got your account? And you are going to allow others to do it also?

As soon as you allow porn, I assume that you, and those who do it will be banned from Graal.
"As long as you say you are 17+, Graal or Cyberjourers isn't responsible"??
They are responsible, as it completely goes against the ToS agreement.

This is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard of.

Nope. Not any more than Unixmad is banned from Graal for not having the most active GPs on classic.
It is not a rule that the manager has to be like "Ok now I'm going to read every mass message and ban porn people". He might get in trouble, but he won't be banned because of what his players mass in messages.
No it doesn't. I don't see anything in there saying you have to be a babysitter when you are a manager.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ndom/O_RLY.jpg

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=64922

Stop bashing playerworlds!

Haha, I never would have thought we'd be getting support from VT, etc. That's pretty exciting. This will probably be the most ridiculous experience you've ever had on graal. In other words....It's just crazy enough to work!

Uhm, and I'll be the to point out that you will not be able to not allow V4 because sooner than later (hopefuly real soon) V2 will be disabled globally so you MUST use V4

V4 isnt laggy so long as you have updated drivers and the server is scripted right.

Sorry to say that you maybe shouldnt have been so secretive and should have been publicly saying your ideas so we could tell you the things you cant do already.

Allowing swearing is probably the most you will get away with.. and as soon as a serious problem happens you will be in big trouble.. trust me.

Graal is responsible for ANYTHING that happens on their servers/software. Just like if someone slips and breaks their leg on your property.. it doesnt matter if they are 24 years old.. you will be held responsible for their medical bills and probably punitive damages.

While I think it might be a good idea for a more.. mature playerworld (I feel that Era is somewhat a more mature PW) I don't think you should just throw stuff in there simply to say its mature. I plan on having a ToS agreement for my pw simply because of the nature of the PW.. items that will be rare that could possibly be stolen lost or scammmed.. I will have to make set of rules players will need to agree with.

Anyways, revise things and you can have a pretty fun playerworld.. but theres a difference between a 'no rules' playerworld and a 'against the rules' playerworld. :)

Actually..v4 is much less laggy..and a much better client. And you'll be forced to use it sooner or later.

Thats stupid. Absolutly the most idiotic post I have read so far concerning my server.

When you go to a skate park, they make you sign a terms of service, which basically says, that if you get hurt on their park and die, you cannot sue the park or company by any means. If you dont sign the agreement, then you cannot go on the park. Plus, your server doesn't need a terms of service, as what you have said is already in Cyberjouers. You have no need for one, and you are way over your head if you think that you do.

Same with my server. I am saying that when you enter the server, you agree that anything you see that may offend or anger you, you cannot make Graal, the server, or it's staff responible because you signed our servers terms of service. When you sign up for the account and you sign Graal's terms of service, everythings good, and I bet none of you have read it.

I bet Moonie hasn't read it recently, but will say otherwise, because you are, from what I've heard, a Bush supporting conservative. I, myself, am a weed smoking liberal. I know right off the bat that you will hate my server, and you will do everything in your fake-admin powers to make sure my server doesnt get off the ground. But, my terms of service when you first enter my server clearly states what can happen on my server, and if you do not agree, then it server warps you other places. It doesn't go against Graal's terms of service, and if any part of it does, then I am remaking it slightly to fit the needs of Graal's players to fit the servers purpose. Otherwise, nothing is wrong with the server at all, and no Global should have a problem since I have a certain terms of service.

If you don't like my server or it's ideas, then shut up. I don't care. I'll submit my server reguardless and go through the inspections. If it goes up, don't agree with my terms of service and go else where. ZegaZega needs not idiots in the server. It's demographic is towards free-thinking mature players. Not narrow-minded seinors, or snappy, and generally stupid 16 year olds.

As for anyone else who still likes my server, get dressed up :]
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edit:
I know for a fact that he allows things on game that are not allowed on the forums. And I know that when my server is up, it won't cause enough of a trobule to make him shut it down. The worst thats gonna happen is some globals will attempt to make me do things the mundane and stupid way to where all servers fail unless they've been up for along time.

:rolleyes:

Although I would love to play, the V4 thing is a must if you want to get through the inspections.

Whoa...What does my supporting Bush have to do with anything?
I mean, be for real.
Unixmad doesn't even want anything close to that on the forums, and you think it will be allowed on the game?
I doubt it, but good luck in trying...

I don't get how you think that you can allow things that Graalonline does not want on the game, simply because you can type up your own ToS in a sense.

And, actually, yes I have read the ToS, and the Graal rules many times since I have been playing. I re-read them often to make sure I know what I am talking about when I say something to people, or when I need to send a paragraph from them to someone.

I have fake admin powers? Ok...

Sorry, but I cannot see Stefan or Unixmad allowing a server to go up that does all the things you state. That is the opinion from this narrow-minded, old, Bush supporting Republican :rolleyes:

1) The game is, in general, far more lenient. Comparing the forums to the game is silly; there are no rules against linking to outside URLs, etc.
2) His allusion to politics could have to do with many Bush supporters being fundamentalists who demand things are their way or they will actively seek to punish their opponents. I'm a Bush supporter and don't have this problem, but there are many who do.
Graalonline is not an moral entity. If it has any interests in a business sense, "it" will allow this if it stood to make them money.
o_O
Then you should know that the Graal ToS does nothing but limit the users' rights. It says nothing about its obligation to the consumer. It can make exceptions at the administrators' discretion, and all the ToS really says is that users can't generally mass profane things, etc. It doesn't say that GraalOnline will not allow these things to go on absolutely, and even if it did, that could change in a heartbeat.


That's fine, but don't pretend that you have the ability to say he will be "banned". You have no right to say so, nor any proof.

Unixmad/Stefan don't care about being held responsible, they care about losing "potential customers" because of graphic content.

I guarantee if your server ever gets put up, it will never be the way you say it.
Plus you will have to rescript everything for V4.. so there goes another 4 months it wont be up.

I'd rather see something in four months instead of the infinite months it'll be before we see 99.9% of the other servers in the works. Atleast the kid's got an original idea.

-shrug- I could make a pw where you have to find wild animals to have sex with.. and gain exp and new sex positions if you get enough.. and have it done in a few days. that would be a pretty original idea... but that doesnt mean its an idea that should be made into a PW.

You'd also be gross.

That would be a really cool server.

Seriously, it would be like a whole new Graal experience.

An original idea? Maybe I missed something earlier, but all he's really said about the server is that you'll be able to curse and get away with it. That's nice and all, but what about the actual gameplay of the server? What else does it offer besides being allowed to curse..?

Didn't you see the hot dancing anime girl?

That sounds similar to some flash games on 4chan.

And if you had a terms of service, saying the age had to be 21+ or something, then yeah, you couldnt be held responcible for a 12 year old playing that server. And since such lewdness will not be on my server, there is no trouble is there?

You obviously did not read my other thread about the server. The things I had said are simply a preview of what you can do on the server, not what is going to be on it.

And you better believe they're be anime girls dancin somewhere.

http://www.zomglol.net/src/1143989789115.gif

Power to the weed smokin liberal, Down with the Conservative Bush supporters.
(Bush is a good guy but Dear god read up on the negative facts)
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but back on subject, I support more mature servers..yet infact I support anything thats different from the **** servers Stefan and Unixmad have up, which are btw causeing them to lose customers and potential ones.

But what I am saying is that Stefan and Unixmad don't care about being held responsible.. they care about catering to an audience.. and the audience they want to cater to doesnt want to see that type of thing (or so they think at least)

I am not saying you dont have the legal right to do it.. just that you wont have permission.

If I don't have permission then I simply wont put up my server. I'll upload it somewhere else. :rolleyes:

Everyones so scared of globals and everything. It's quite pathetic.

Not scared, just respectful of the owners wishes. There is a difference.

U IZ SCURR'D!

-_-

It is like hearing, "Why is playing violent videogames wrong?". "Because the Bible says so!".

No, its like hearing "billy why cant you get this new violent video game?" "because my mother said so"

its about respect your logic is faulty.

Holy **** that's an awesome idea! :megaeek: :megaeek: :megaeek:

Nope. But I just did, and sounds like every other server, except with lax rules and parody of other servers. Not really that interested, but good luck.

Way to contradict yourself there champ. :rolleyes: