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Raeiphon 01-14-2006 06:39 PM

The Graal Community
 
Whats wrong with it? This is what:

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnRPG
Great game if you know how to program =D, bad people though very mean and corrupt =(

I second that statement. In my 7 years of gaming, I have NEVER seen such an abomination of a game that is Graal. It's fun, it has a really good scripting engine, yet there are a group of people that sit ontop of the community like a proverbial cancer and spit down waves of unsupporting and negative comments. It's an elitist attidude, and people wonder why we dont get many new people coming?

It's absurd. Honestly. And do the moderators do jack about it? No. They dont. Look around. It's pathetic. I dont pay 60 bucks a year to have my experienced ruined by some abrasive guy who takes pleasure in hurting others.

I'm forced to stay here. Why? I have friends. Despite the massive corruption, there are a few hardworking coders and designers which break their backs to make us an awesome experience, then a few of us throw comments at them that arent even relevant. And they quit. I bet, if a select few people never existed within this community, it would be a better place for all.

I, myself, dread posting anything on these forums for fear of being flamed like that. I post something, and I get the response I dread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by removed
Why post a half level, you're now not going to finish it either?
Anyway, it's ugly.

And that, is the Graal translation of constructive criticism. From a Graal Kingdoms staff member.

I want your thoughts on what the community is like. I dont want any flaming, I just want honest opinions.

xAndrewx 01-14-2006 06:46 PM

Wait, so because I'm a staff member that means I can't say what I think?
If so, I'll be glad to remove that avatar setting.

Raeiphon 01-14-2006 06:48 PM

It's an example. As a member of staff, you've obviously been chosen for displaying a skill of such that appeals to the higher authorities, and it's a great way of showing graal what the servers are like, as the server directly reflects the staff, as they make and maintain the server.

xAndrewx 01-14-2006 06:53 PM

I work on GK, Era and Rudora.
I told you my opinion of a level that you posted, it was my honest opinion and you wanted some critism.
I won't change who I am for a playerworld that I work for.

SoSolid66 01-14-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx
I work on GK, Era and Rudora.
I told you my opinion of a level that you posted, it was my honest opinion and you wanted some critism.
I won't change who I am for a playerworld that I work for.

Zzz

Spark910 01-14-2006 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoSolid66
Zzz

lol
__________________________
I agree anyway ^^

KuJi 01-14-2006 11:45 PM

hahahaha

Spark --> I support regular G2k1 :-D (with teh sexay hearts, and market system)

GoZelda 01-15-2006 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Wait, so because I'm a staff member that means I can't say what I think?

Even if you're not staff, there are boundaries.

MKxTortoise 01-15-2006 12:55 AM

Take it like a man, jeez.

excaliber7388 01-15-2006 01:03 AM

Yeah, but sometimes it can get a little out of control, all because of a few peoples ignorance... Overall though, the community isn't that bad. It's just hard to notice the good ones with the immature people clouding your view.

Warcaptain 01-15-2006 01:26 AM

I am not touching this post with a 10 foot pole...

Myukoi 01-15-2006 01:36 AM

I am QUEEN

for

that was my thread which that quote is from

Chris 01-15-2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise
Take it like a man, jeez.

This is Graal.

Brad 01-15-2006 02:50 AM

im better than you.

Butz 01-15-2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Wait, so because I'm a staff member that means I can't say what I think?
If so, I'll be glad to remove that avatar setting.

As a member of staff, you should also show a level of professionalism, which amounts to doing more than bluntly stating your feelings. Calling something ugly is not constructive criticism.

Raeiphon 01-15-2006 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butz
As a member of staff, you should also show a level of professionalism, which amounts to doing more than bluntly stating your feelings. Calling something ugly is not constructive criticism.

Exactly what I was trying to get across. Thanks for inadvertently wording my post ;)

GryffonDurime 01-15-2006 05:43 AM

I wouldn't pay much attention to what Andrew says, Rei. He's already proven himself to be a terrible judge, an ignorant fool, and a sycophant with only good words for his superiors and bad ones for those he deems beneath him. :D

And yes, power to the REAL 2k1.

Raeiphon 01-15-2006 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
I wouldn't pay much attention to what Andrew says, Rei. He's already proven himself to be a terrible judge, an ignorant fool, and a sycophant with only good words for his superiors and bad ones for those he deems beneath him. :D

And yes, power to the REAL 2k1.

Couldn't of said it better myself.

It's not entirely about Andrew though. Have a look around on the Era forums, you'll spot the rest.

Minoc 01-15-2006 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Wait, so because I'm a staff member that means I can't say what I think?

You may state your opinion, but you should be a little bit nicer.

AlkarenHyralt 01-22-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raeiphon
The Graal Community

Is a sad, ghostly shadow of what it used to be.

Spark910 01-22-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
And yes, power to the REAL 2k1.

Am I supporting the wrong one in my sig? :eek:

Fox1545 01-22-2006 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spark910
Am I supporting the wrong one in my sig? :eek:

You are supporting Konidias' total remake and not the efforts of the current G2k1 team.

Spark910 01-23-2006 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox1545
You are supporting Konidias' total remake and not the efforts of the current G2k1 team.

Dang :(
I can't change it though, it'll totally mess up my signature if I take it out >_<

Andy0687 01-23-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlkarenHyralt
Is a sad, ghostly shadow of what it used to be.

Man i remember goodtimes from 'used to be'.

Anyways all you have to do is pretty much open up any thread where anyone has posted anything.

Most of the time its someone who is/was global or is/was working on Graal Kingdoms (A refrence for the gold servers, you know, what people pay to play?) making some kind of stupid comment.

It isnt always someone like that, but then the ones that dont are either later fired or removed (there are a few however that are very helpful). Sometimes even some of the ones who want to help, end up quitting because its hard to fight something like that.

LordMatt 01-25-2006 06:08 AM

Woot for old Graal2k1 premarkets that made people filfty rich, old bodies and hearts yeah!

protagonist 01-25-2006 06:41 AM

There are jerks in every community. The difference is, the community is smaller here, so you see recurring jerkdom from pathological jerks.


edit: Pathogical is not a word. :whatever:

James205 01-25-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raeiphon
Whats wrong with it? This is what:


I second that statement. In my 7 years of gaming, I have NEVER seen such an abomination of a game that is Graal. It's fun, it has a really good scripting engine, yet there are a group of people that sit ontop of the community like a proverbial cancer and spit down waves of unsupporting and negative comments. It's an elitist attidude, and people wonder why we dont get many new people coming?

It's absurd. Honestly. And do the moderators do jack about it? No. They dont. Look around. It's pathetic. I dont pay 60 bucks a year to have my experienced ruined by some abrasive guy who takes pleasure in hurting others.

I'm forced to stay here. Why? I have friends. Despite the massive corruption, there are a few hardworking coders and designers which break their backs to make us an awesome experience, then a few of us throw comments at them that arent even relevant. And they quit. I bet, if a select few people never existed within this community, it would be a better place for all.

I, myself, dread posting anything on these forums for fear of being flamed like that. I post something, and I get the response I dread.



And that, is the Graal translation of constructive criticism. From a Graal Kingdoms staff member.

I want your thoughts on what the community is like. I dont want any flaming, I just want honest opinions.

I agree with most, some I don't.

This is a big issue though, it's not the moderators fault.

In fact, the moderators moderate too much. Most threads in the Graal Main Forums are deleted/moved/closed for some purpose. It's very hard thinking of a thread that can fully fit just this forum because the communication center has 32894238472398 categories within it which are all dead.

The examples you posted don't even compare to what I've seen. I've seen globals fully abuse powers, insult others in front of the head honchos and get away with it. I've pointed out many examples on how globals can do whatever they want and act like a 10 year old child (most likely because they are under the age of 15). Professional is what graal is missing within it's globals. But we all knew that already :rolleyes:


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