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Myukoi 01-11-2006 09:53 AM

The Perfect Weapon
 
I'm out on a quest for the perfect weapon.

First of all I want to know what you all can do to a weapon and how you do it.. I know about blessing, and preparing it, adding dex bonus, lessening the weight, enchanting.. but I dont know what any of that does, how much of it you can do, which god is best, if you can do it all to the same weapon and all that stuff. I also dont know which weapons are that good but I do have a dagger of fortune.. so basically I want someone to make a guide on how to make the perfect weapon.

Zero Hour 01-11-2006 02:30 PM

If you want a hot weapon, you're going to have to level physique. I made my Flaming sword into a bone crusher with 9 (soon to be 10?) IWDs. If I ever prep a weapon again I'll probably do a FID, or a ice flaming.

Darklux 01-11-2006 03:05 PM

Someone said me lower weapon weight has really big effects.
It could speed a weapon up alot :o

xAndrewx 01-11-2006 03:15 PM

Yes, I've heard this is true too.

OasaTor_PK 01-11-2006 04:58 PM

Considering weapon speed hasn't been implemented, I would think it would be useless.

DONT DO ENCHANT WEAPONS, I cannot stress this enough. For how easy it is to glitch physical levels, you shouldnt even worry about weapon class. "IF" You can afford it, add 1 or 2 str. If you want to PK eventually, make it either Omga (on a fid, or ID for example) or gov on a weapon with no different weapon attacks.

List of Blessers for Omga:
-Nayoko can do +7 I believe
-Fr0 can do +9 for 100 dias, 50 dias for +8, not sure about any other prices.

Govannan Blessers:
-John can do +7, probally for a brutal or so.
-Sam can do +8, I think he charges like 5 brutals or something like that.

TRY TO GET A WEAPON WITH A WEAPON ATTACK STYLE OTHER THAN PHYSICAL.

If you are prepping a sword, dont waste time on a diamond force, ect. Do a weapon like Flaming sword, thunder sword, ice flaming sword, ect.

IWD's IWD's IWD's IWD's and stat+1 or stat+2

For stats, it is 2 Potions of that stat + the scroll, and for +2 its 4 potions of that stat + the scroll, ect.

Craigus 01-11-2006 05:49 PM

Weapon speed is there and makes a big difference to PvP battle.

Splke 01-11-2006 07:39 PM

Weapon speed is now what many players consider attacks per frame, inwhich when you spam the S key it will do [x] attacks based on 2 things : attack types, and weapon speed.

If you're going for a great PvP weapon, I'd aim for something like

FID of Ogma +12-14 (6/10 IWD, 1/10 LWW, 3-5 (depending on how much you want to poison them for, which has its uses but alltogather is just to raise your WC and lower their AC through stat reduction) EW). With something like this you're likely to do about 112 dmg, have about -55 WC at a lower level (20 phys) and be able to poison a -87 AC user down to about -72.

Given that isn't enough to PK them, that's when we pull out the LAMER bow. Ogma Bow +22 (meaning STRAIGHT EWs) to bring your WC up. Sure it wont hit for much, but all you're trying to do is get that poison to hit hard so that their AC drops enough for you to be able to use your AIDS dagger on them.


Quite honestly, I would go with the Bow first. Prep it up to a nice Ogma+, then go get a FID, bless it Leucetious and add on the IWDs (8) and LWW (2). You want to keep a dagger within 10.00 kb - 19.9 kb so that you get 3-4 apf (attack per frame, jajaja).

Note: this is really all tested based on my own efforts and others opinions of such. You can ALWAYS get a Flaming Sword from a Haunted House and prep it in the same way you would a FID.

Now the idea behind blessing is this

More attack types = more times you have a chance to hit your opponent.

EG.

FID = Physical, Ice, Magical- you put Ogma on there for Poison, this is 4 attack types, thus 4 times to attack an opponent when you swing. It will usually hit poison in your first swing given you're spamming S and you do not have a 50 kg dagger.

Hammer of <anything> = Physical- you put Govannon or Luecetious(which sucks imo) on this so that it will hit hard as hell, and that's it. You aren't looking to get multiple swings off, you're looking to get 1 simple crushing blow. Prepping a Hammer with Ogma is a HUGE MISTAKE. Me and Tecumseh did it, Ogma / IWD prep and it was just AWFUL. Stick to Govannon and you'll do 120+ dmg each time you hit, but bewarned, learning to PK with Hammers is a tact and skill of it's own.

Bow = physical, so why Ogma prep? Well you're far away from them, and it's just a 'laming machinegun of doom'. You want the highest Ogma on it for poison, or the highest IWD + Govannon on it to lame from long distance. If you're skeptical of it lowering their AC enough for you to hit them, prep a Govannon one up to about +10 then straight IWDs. LWW = nothing to Bows, it will shoot considerably slower but we all know Composite Bows shoot faster then anything else anyways.

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I hope that all makes sense. So as my last bit of advice, get a grip of USD, buy a perfect set of items (2 row, 30 str/30 dex items) and THEN look into prepping a laming dagger/bow pking dagger/bow. If you don't have the WC to hit somebody, you'll find yourself hating the PKing aspect.

laterssss

Brad 01-11-2006 08:22 PM

uh just look at ancient bamboo rod

perfect weapon

nuff' said

Darklux 01-11-2006 08:36 PM

The perfect weapon is the rarest weapon.

After all there will be someone who can beat you. wheres the fun?

ApothiX 01-11-2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux
The perfect weapon is the rarest weapon.

After all there will be someone who can beat you. wheres the fun?

Rare weapons are usually far from perfect.

Darklux 01-11-2006 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApothiX
Rare weapons are usually far from perfect.

Only if you only care for.. pk.. wc... damage types... weaponspeed.. iwd.. blessing........... and so on.

CidNight1142 01-11-2006 11:28 PM

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Zero Hour 01-11-2006 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux
Only if you only care for.. pk.. wc... damage types... weaponspeed.. iwd.. blessing........... and so on.

The Ice sword has proven to be a beef machine. That's not that rare.

CidNight1142 01-12-2006 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero Hour
The Ice sword has proven to be a beef machine. That's not that rare.

I use a prepped Ice Sword. As of now its 7/10 with 6 IWDs and 1 EA. Ogma + 10. I can handle 9 improvements so I'm saving the two last slots for str bonuses. When I can do the 10th I'll probably just do another IWD, maybe a LWW. What do you guys think by the way?

Brad 01-12-2006 12:13 AM

ancient bamboo = rarest weapon in game

it also = best weapon in game

therefore, rare = good

Googi 01-13-2006 07:00 AM

There's nothing terribly impressive about Ancient Bamboo and it's comparatively high weapon speed makes in inferior to FID/ID and Dagger of Fortune. Brad just acts like it's the best like I used to lie and say Gold Shovel could do cool stuff.

Damix2 01-13-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi
There's nothing terribly impressive about Ancient Bamboo and it's comparatively high weapon speed makes in inferior to FID/ID and Dagger of Fortune. Brad just acts like it's the best like I used to lie and say Gold Shovel could do cool stuff.


Best stats, best damage, an elemental attack type.

Makes it pretty damn good.

Brad 01-14-2006 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damix2
Best stats, best damage, an elemental attack type.

Makes it pretty damn good.



as the fridge said to the egg


eggsactly.

Googi 01-14-2006 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damix2
Best stats, best damage, an elemental attack type.

Makes it pretty damn good.

When the first weapons came out (AKA before prepping) it was generally accepted that Diamond Sword was the best because it had Dam+9 (The highest of any weapon at that time.) This was untrue, however, because the Naginata could strike much faster (and strike twice using the spin technique), meaning that it could do more damage over the same period of time compared to Diamond Sword despite having a Dam+ of only 7. Prepping just makes weapon speed even more important as IWDs cause the percentage difference between two weapons with the same number of IWDs to decrease even further. Thus why daggers, despite being the items with the lowest dam+ are the best weapon types.

Damix2 01-14-2006 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi
When the first weapons came out (AKA before prepping) it was generally accepted that Diamond Sword was the best because it had Dam+9 (The highest of any weapon at that time.) This was untrue, however, because the Naginata could strike much faster (and strike twice using the spin technique), meaning that it could do more damage over the same period of time compared to Diamond Sword despite having a Dam+ of only 7. Prepping just makes weapon speed even more important as IWDs cause the percentage difference between two weapons with the same number of IWDs to decrease even further. Thus why daggers, despite being the items with the lowest dam+ are the best weapon types.


Err, I can probally beat you with a sword, it all depends. But using the bamboo is not exactly hard, once you are good at it, it actually is a very good attack type.

Plus Dex+2, Str+1 just elevate it completely.

Splke 01-14-2006 09:18 AM

Ancient Bamboo is the best weapon in the game, hands down. It's just hard to use, compared to daggers.

Myukoi 01-14-2006 10:42 AM

I'm still confused. People in this thread talk about the things to do to the weapon but don't explain how to do it x_x

I just want to know about all those things.. blessing, preparing, lessening weapon weight, adding int bonus, etc etc. how to do it and how much you can do it etc etc.

Felix_Xenophobe 01-14-2006 03:48 PM

Scrolls that add attack types to your weapon would be cool.

Zero Hour 01-14-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splke
Ancient Bamboo is the best weapon in the game, hands down. It's just hard to use, compared to daggers.

Yea, it's pretty hard to use. Takes away from it's leetness, since you have a disadvantage with it.

I suppose if you know how to use it there's no issue, but if I had it I wouldn't want to have to spend a week "training" ;).

Brad 01-14-2006 08:46 PM

bamboo is so easy to use

the side attack makes it better than most weapons since I can basically stand still in a fight and attack from 3/4 angles

I have been using it for a while so I guess I got used to its domination

Waltz5 01-14-2006 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe
Scrolls that add attack types to your weapon would be cool.

That would defeat the purposes of most weapons then and you could load up 1 weapon with tons of attack types.

By the way, Kyden also blesses Ogma +7 for a brutal. ;)

Myukoi 01-15-2006 01:33 AM

*growls like an old lady defending her oatmeal* TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW!


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