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excaliber7388 01-11-2006 03:42 AM

Events and gps vs Hosted section?
 
I've heard multiple people say that having events team or GPs as staff before you are hosted, you may hurt yout chances for getting your server on the hosted section. First off, is this true? If so, this is a rather foolish rule. I know that while in develope mode, you shouldn't have that kind of staff because you're developing, but that doesn't make much sence. The events on my sevrer are responsible for making events, as well as hosting them. In fact, the old events admin recently became good enough at levels and scripting to get the Co-manager possition. If it weren't for the fact that he was an events member, he never would have gotten this far (in fact in the beggining he only wanted to be events). He's contributed a LOT to the server, and if he had not been with us as an events member, he never would have helped us out with our levels and such. My GP chief has been on DR for more hours than me, and has contributed, gfx, heads, and bodies, as well as levels. So yes, it's a dev sevrer, and all staff members server to make the server better in some way. If you have only dev staff, and you have 10 staff members who work on ONLY dev materials, you're not doing as good as a server with 10 dev staff, and 7 events or gps, who also contribute. My non dev staff have helped push DR on a lot, and have made it fun (as DR has been playable for some time). We have a good events system, coins, and prizes, as well as a good jailing system, why waste them? So, if this is a real rule, I would like a good explanation for it, and why i should get rid of some of my staff, just because they would rather host an event than make levels (and all the events or GPs have uploaded something to the server anyway). So why make these rules that would only slow me down? Please clear this rumor up, and if it's not a rumor, help me to understand why it is a rule. Thanks!

napo_p2p 01-11-2006 04:02 AM

Because normally a dev server has not enough playerbase to require a separate group that handles JUST events or JUST player relations.

And yes, this is pretty much a rule:

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Originally Posted by Playerworld Rules
Invisible and closed off playerworlds do not need staff such as FAQs, GPs until they are visible. So they should not have any of these staff. When they are visible but in the 3rd tab they should wait to see if they need these extra staff, as they may not.

It it reasonable to hire event staff for your server if they are also developing the events. However, if your event staff are meant to just host events, then it probably isn't neccessary. In your case it seems ok.

excaliber7388 01-11-2006 04:09 AM

yeah, all staff do something for developement, but the server does have a large playerbase for a dev server, we've gone days with over 20 players on. We don't have many events team members, or Gps, but they do help, and GPs have jailed already, and events are hosted as well, but when there aren't many people on, they do dev work, or in between events they help out.

MysticX2X 01-11-2006 05:00 AM

THats funny, i only see staff on and 2 people who visit for a minute.

Warcaptain 01-11-2006 05:02 AM

Just curious (not trying to be antagonistic here or anything) but what buisness is it of Graal's what 'staff' positions an owner wants to make? I mean.. I can understand (somewhat) moderating RC access a bit, but if I want to give someone a 'Boob' tag and make them in charge of seeing if bushes respawn.. and putting them on the staff list.. what buisness is it of yours to tell me not to do that? (really, again.. not trying to be a jerk just trying to find out your reasoning)

Yen 01-11-2006 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Warcaptain
Just curious (not trying to be antagonistic here or anything) but what buisness is it of Graal's what 'staff' positions an owner wants to make? I mean.. I can understand (somewhat) moderating RC access a bit, but if I want to give someone a 'Boob' tag and make them in charge of seeing if bushes respawn.. and putting them on the staff list.. what buisness is it of yours to tell me not to do that? (really, again.. not trying to be a jerk just trying to find out your reasoning)

It's not like they're paying for the se-- Oh wait, they are.

GryffonDurime 01-11-2006 05:25 AM

I think I may well be the only member of 2k1 Dev who can not script, gani, make graphics or levels. This, however, is more a server issue.

I agree that a manager, when paying for a server, should be able to hire staff as is his wont, so long as he comes to terms with the security risk that puts his project at.

ApothiX 01-11-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
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My god, it took me like 20 mins to read that damn thing due to the lack of formatting and decent punctuation.

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
I agree that a manager, when paying for a server, should be able to hire staff as is his wont, so long as he comes to terms with the security risk that puts his project at.

What about having staff members that put general GraalOnline security at risk, or who's sole purpose is to annoy the playerbase? Should managers still be allowed to hire those people?

Malinko 01-11-2006 07:07 PM

Well, the purpose of development playerworlds is to develop. So it's quite okay to hire Events Team to create events for the playerworld.

Positions such as F.A.Q. and Graal Police aren't needed as much since those positions tend to interact with players. Most underconstruction playerworlds do not have players, so there is no purpose. Of course, there could be some sort of position I guess. I've seen F.A.Q. and Graal Police people develop. I remember when the current Manager of Delteria, MisconectioN was GP Chief or so and he was making a spar complex. I guess that's usually okay. Maybe it's a peference thing to be player staff rather than development staff. Who knows.

But in general, there shouldn't be staff on UC playerworlds who do no work.

Warcaptain 01-11-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko
Well, the purpose of development playerworlds is to develop. So it's quite okay to hire Events Team to create events for the playerworld.

Positions such as F.A.Q. and Graal Police aren't needed as much since those positions tend to interact with players. Most underconstruction playerworlds do not have players, so there is no purpose. Of course, there could be some sort of position I guess. I've seen F.A.Q. and Graal Police people develop. I remember when the current Manager of Delteria, MisconectioN was GP Chief or so and he was making a spar complex. I guess that's usually okay. Maybe it's a peference thing to be player staff rather than development staff. Who knows.

But in general, there shouldn't be staff on UC playerworlds who do no work.

There shouldn't be, in the sense that there really is no purpose. But there is no reason why there cant be. Especially when we are paying $100 a year to have that playerworld.

As long as we arent violating any copyright laws, or creating security issues, we should have the right to call anyone staff we want.

excaliber7388 01-11-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X
THats funny, i only see staff on and 2 people who visit for a minute.

If you don't have anything inteligent to say, don't say anything at all.
DR does have players to interact with, however, all staff do something for the server. GPs allow people to work, and the server to be up at the same time, so that we can have players, keep them under control, and still develope a server. Though, we have had very few problems, the system for jailing even gives GPs enough time to help out. So in a way, everyone is developing, no matter what tag they have on

unixmad 01-11-2006 09:18 PM

Do you think $99 a year is really paying the costs for running a server ?

Also Playeworlds are part of the Graal Player community and to run the Graal community we need rules. We need to enforce rules because Players are paying for playing graal and we can not let a playerworld owner ban someone with not good reason (to give a exemple).

You can still discuss the rules and give your point of view but when we give rules they should be respected by everyone.


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Originally Posted by Warcaptain
There shouldn't be, in the sense that there really is no purpose. But there is no reason why there cant be. Especially when we are paying $100 a year to have that playerworld.

As long as we arent violating any copyright laws, or creating security issues, we should have the right to call anyone staff we want.


MysticX2X 01-12-2006 08:48 PM

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Do you think $99 a year is really paying the costs for running a server ?
Seeing as there is 100+ playerworlds paying, yes.


Excaliber, if you delete your whole overworld, and start fresh, you might have a chance at hosted.

excaliber7388 01-12-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X
Seeing as there is 100+ playerworlds paying, yes.


Excaliber, if you delete your whole overworld, and start fresh, you might have a chance at hosted.

Thats funny, because you're the only person complaining ;) multiple people have said it looks good (and not just staff) of course, I havn't taken your advice seriously for quite some time now, ever since...oh yeah, when you were fired. Grow up and MOVE ON.

MysticX2X 01-12-2006 10:08 PM

But im staff at a going to be bigger better place then yours.


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