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CidNight1142 01-02-2006 08:24 AM

Prepping Advice
 
I'm finally moving up to the point where I need to prep a weapon. I've chosen the new fancy dagger of fortune instead of shelling out the dias for an ID or FID. I did this because the weapon speed is actually faster, and I figure one IWD will probably level them off on the damage anyways. Now, I've never prepped before and I'm looking for some experienced advice on what I should fill my slots with and what to bless to create a good sparring dagger.
So here's the situation.
Dagger of Fortune prepped to 10 open slots. (the price for that is 100 dias I believe?)
Probably a +9 Ogma blessing if I can ever find fro online.
Tell me if you think the +9 ogma is the best choice, keeping in mind im on a limited budget and fro doesn't do it cheap obviously. Also, what should I fill my slots with? For example, how many EW's, how many IWD's, etc. Thanks in advance for the help!

Draenin 01-02-2006 08:59 AM

Dagger of fortune shouldn't really be used for sparring, as it has no attack attributes. Load it up with bile and get some luck items. ;]

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 09:04 AM

so basically the good thing about the ID or FID is that little bit of ice attack that it has?

Damix2 01-02-2006 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142
so basically the good thing about the ID or FID is that little bit of ice attack that it has?


Yes, you need elemental attacks for sparring/PKing, thats why the golden edge stinks :cool:

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 09:08 AM

awwwwww crud...that sets me back alot...here we go massive diamond collection for another week or two...

-edit-
Alright well, replace the dagger of fortune with an ID or FID. What should I do about the blessing/prepping to create a good sparring weapon with 10 slots.

Draenin 01-02-2006 09:47 AM

Get it blessed as high as it can go for that God, prep it, add a ton of IWDs, and lighten it if it's really that heavy. (Which it shouldn't be.)

Damix2 01-02-2006 09:57 AM

Riight now LWW are fairly worthless.

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 10:02 AM

well my strength isnt anything incredible. I use an RoC and RoT, so I don't have RoW's jacking up my strength very high. The heaviness of the weapon probably will affect me just a bit, but I probably wont lower its weight unless I really have to. Thanks for the advice guys! If there're any other suggestions or if anyone happens to be selling IDs or FIDs, ill be a buyer very soon, so drop a post here.

SayianOozaru 01-02-2006 10:15 AM

do you have a high wc? there's no point in preping all damage if you can't break the players ac. For me, i got a golden edge, and preped it 9 times, after haveing it blessed +7 ogma....i added 7 EW's and 1 IWD (i can't handle or than 8 preps) so my wc jumps 14 when i use it....thought i'm only lvl 17 in phy (and base) that's pretty good...Also you will want to say /skills to see how much improvements (preps) you can handle at the moment. It's fine to add on more than what you can handle, but if you go over what your limit is, you won't be able to use the weapon you prep'd until you reach however many extra you put on. Remember you don't have to fill all the slots at the same time :)

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 10:21 AM

ya, right now I can do 8 improvements (lvl 18 phys)...and my weapon class is lacking. Its like -12 with a GE equipped I think. I was planning on prepping 10 and waiting to fill the other 2 (obviously). Right now its just a money issue. In all, the process will cost me about 500 dias to complete. Thats appr. 250 for the dagger, a hundred for the blessing, a hundred for the prep, and 50 for various buying of improvements (although Im going to buy the improvements myself with plat from blessed mags) Thats ALOT for me.

Craigus 01-02-2006 05:16 PM

If you don't want to spend out on a fid/id why not settle for a ice sword/thunder sword. I have a fid a ID and a thunder sword and my Thunder sword is my strongest weapon you can pick one up for 30 or so diamonds a completely underestimated weapon in my opinion.

Just as a side note i think you will all find that the Dagger of Fortune is actually slower then FID/ID remember it works in reverse the lower the number the faster the weapon.

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 05:55 PM

The thunder sword/ice sword idea sounds like a great idea. I already have an ice sword and thunder swords are pretty easy to pick up. Someone was even selling an ice sword the other day with the +9 blessing, that would save me the trouble of getting fro to do it if I bought it from them. The only issue is, with a sword in battle, no matter how powerful, will I really stand a chance against someone with an ID or FID?

Craigus 01-02-2006 06:45 PM

I use my thunder sword and my FID and you may need to adjust fighting style between the 2 but i wouldn't say daggers have an advantage, they have faster hits but they need to stand still to take advantage of the fast hits in this case you should take full advantage of your swords main advantage which is you can move around them and hit without stopping.

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 09:37 PM

Thanks for the advice, I might just do that, I'll try to pick up a thunder sword though, I like the look better. Thanks all for the help, hope this helps others looking to prep for their first time as well. Any more ideas/help is very welcome!

Zero Hour 01-02-2006 09:50 PM

I personally enjoy my Flaming Sword of Ogma+6 (was all the rage back then) with 55dmg :)

Obviously I would get +9 now, but this is olldddd.

CidNight1142 01-02-2006 10:12 PM

flaming swords run for like an RoW now dont they? They are sweet looking.

Zero Hour 01-02-2006 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142
flaming swords run for like an RoW now dont they? They are sweet looking.

Not an inferno - a flaming sword.

You can pick them up at your local haunted house ;)

Craigus 01-03-2006 12:00 AM

Fire is not a good type EVERYONE has fire resistance.

CidNight1142 01-03-2006 12:05 AM

Oh geez I just assmued you meant inferno! lol
Well heres the plan. I purchased an ice sword ogma +9 for a great price today (thank you maroku). I'm going to prep it 10 slots and drop 8 IWDs on it, unless i need to lower its weapon weight. Then I'm going to EA my bomy helm to +12 (via advice from draenin, thank you again) and probably glitch its GFX because its really ugly in my opinion. And I should have very good damage after that. Critique?

ApothiX 01-03-2006 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142
Oh geez I just assmued you meant inferno! lol
Well heres the plan. I purchased an ice sword ogma +9 for a great price today (thank you maroku). I'm going to prep it 10 slots and drop 8 IWDs on it, unless i need to lower its weapon weight. Then I'm going to EA my bomy helm to +12 (via advice from draenin, thank you again) and probably glitch its GFX because its really ugly in my opinion. And I should have very good damage after that. Critique?

What about your WC? If you are only level 18 and on a tight budget (No +12 marks?) You might want to consider putting a couple EWs into your weapon so that your damage actually matters.

CidNight1142 01-03-2006 08:44 AM

with the ice sword equipped unprepped (just the +9 ogma) im at -15 wc. Do IWD's increase WC as well? Or do I do that solely based on the enchantment? I use havoks with a +2 WC right now (theyre clean, ya I know...I'm a nub lol). Will the +12 marks make that much of a difference? Also, whats the going price on marks?

Draenin 01-03-2006 09:12 AM

Go make some Gloves of Marksmanship +12 and start levelling phys a lot. That will raise your WC. IWDs you should keep on your weapon rather than EWs, since you'll do a lot of damage if you can break your enemy's AC with the WC you accumulate from certain stuff.

CidNight1142 01-03-2006 09:37 AM

Are marks considerably better then havoks? For example, will i get more wc for EAing my havoks? or should I just drop the 100 dias for the marks

Draenin 01-03-2006 09:52 AM

Go for the Marks. With Havoks, you get a maximum of +14 WC, while marks get a max of +16 WC.

Alexander 01-03-2006 12:32 PM

How much WC do you need to break someone with like -60 AC?

Felix_Xenophobe 01-03-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander
How much WC do you need to break someone with like -60 AC?

Around -50 or -55. But it isn't easy.

*EDIT* Wouldn't a Leuc blessing on a non-elemental weapon solve the problem?

CidNight1142 01-03-2006 11:15 PM

I suppose it might, but then you lose the option to get the poisoning abilities of ogma.


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