If you can't fix that, fix my connection
 

I think I have a delay or something. It's on 250ms all the time and I have DSL. UDP isn't compatible with my DSL. It shouldn't have any lag whatsoever though.

250ms is actually pretty good. I don't see what the problem is. What are you asking?
If you have a problem with your connection, i suggest you call your ISP.

Also, wrong forum.

Hi. The "Graal Main Forum" is for threads relating to general Graal things that do not belong in one of the other forums.

The "Tech Support" forum is for threads relating to technical support for Graal. Your thread belongs there.

It's been moved.

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Funny, I came up with 250ms myself in this discussion. Do you only get this high of pings on Graal, or on everything? Try opening a command prompt (start > run > command (or cmd(both work))) and ping google.com. I get a minimum of 18ms and a maximum of 22ms, yet to Graal's server, I get 125ms. Not to mention when interacting with other players without UDP, the delay is 250ms. Wait, no, not 250, but rather 500ms. I say 500 because it takes 4 cycles to fully get and recieve data from another player (theoretically) - send data to server (125ms) > server recieves and sends to all players (another 125ms) > player gets data then sends it back to the server (another 125ms) > server gets the data and sends it back to me (the final addition 125ms, making the whopping unacceptable 500ms). That's only if the server is running at a consistent rate. I notice the server has it's 7-10 second period of freezing itself every once in a while, so add a good 7,000-10,000ms to that if the server decides it can freeze while I'm sparring/changing weapons/shooting fireballs.

You said UDP isn't compatible with your DSL? Are you using a router or a firewall? Those seem to be the most causes with UDP problems. On the other hand, I'm not completely sure if DSL can even use a router as I haven't ever used DSL. I will add, though, that a good bunch of people with UDP problems do seem to have DSL. I can't actually confirm that DSL actually has problems with UDP, though, like I said.

250ms when pinging www.graalonline.com ? It should be max 20-120 ms

Also a 500 ms delay? When do you need a response from another player? I would suggest a serverside system, then it's only half the delay, at least with new scripting engine :)

You're right - my average ping is (I'll say 125 later on to make it simpler) 111ms (I have yet to see anyone get anything lower than 100) with graalonline.com. I'm getting the impression that living farther away from the server means more delay. I'll ask someone who lives in the UK to do a ping to the same server and I'll post the results.

"When do you need a response from another player?"
I was referring "response" as the average time of getting data and sending data between one player, the server, the other player, and back. What I'm saying is that while my ping may be a tenth of a second, that does not actually determine how long it takes when interacting (interacting would be a better word than response, now that I think about it) with a player (remember, none of this is true if both me and the other player have UDP - everything works perfect with UDP on (unchecked)). For example, on the playerworld Classic, if I type /lagcheck, it takes "125ms" for the data to get there, and "125ms" to come back. I usually get 200-250 ping according to the lagcheck, and everyone I ask to do the /lagcheck also gets very close to the same results I do.

You said scripting a serverside system - while that's an idea, that's EXACTLY what's causing so much delay. When UDP is off, all the data isn't being sent directly from you to the player, but from you, to the server, then to the player. Anything between that happens to delay (in this case, the server) will increase the time you see the other players/npcs/whatever else is serverside.

Also, if you get on two accounts and watch yourself move from the other account without UDP on, you'll notice the delay. ev1servers did NOT delay, whereas europa(##(I notice there was only a 3, now there's a 34 and 45).legende.net) does. Why exactly was ev1servers (for Unholy Nation) replaced with legende.net? That was the only server I could play on without worrying about people lagging even when they had cable.

Oh, and there is a serverside system on Classic. Someone can slash right through me on my screen and it'll take a good 250ms for it to go between them and the server, then to me. It'll take another 250ms to show them that I actually got hit, which is where I got the 500ms from. Still, this doesn't only apply on Classic, it's all servers when UDP isn't on. UDP does not seem to make any difference on Classic because the system is serverside. The most you'd get out of UDP is smooth movements (but late hits) on that playerworld.

Since I can only post once a day or so, you might notice my messages change slightly, or I add parts to it. As confusing as it is, it's all I can do.

In response below,

Do you have a wireless router? Do you know what IP to use to get into your router's configuration? All routers I've seen and used have started with 192.168.*.*, so I can say it's most likely something like yours would be. Open up a command prompt (start, run, "cmd") and type ipconfig /all. According to what mine says, "default gateway" would be the IP to use for the configuration. To get to that, type in that IP in an internet browser like Internet Explorer.

edit#9129581959: I asked that person who lives in the UK to ping graal's server, he said he got 24-26ms. I guess the distance factor is the cause, so maybe there's a way to have both a US and a UK server? Or maybe you could choose what server you want to connect to at login. Hmm, but still, say I'm sparring this guy in the UK, I have 110ms ping, he has 24ms ping - it would still be 110*2ms delay (to send and recieve) for me to see his movements. I don't think a new scripting system will fix serverside lag, so maybe the best solution is a type of UDP that works behind a NAT? Or a whole different protocol, even.

Yeah, is there anyone who can tell me how to switch from router to bridge?

I want to have UDP for using mic, and switch off of router to have less of a delay.