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Gambet is a First class JERK.
Okay, Im tired of corrupt little kids that ruin this game for players. I'm talking about going out of their bounds to ban someone from a server they like to play because they swore once in an argument and that person lost.
I'm proposing that somebody should DIE. Example: Bob ALLEGIDLY messages Billy with fowl comments and racial remarks on <servernamehere>. Billy reports Bobs PM to a GP on <servernamehere>, and then the GP messages Bob about the PM. Bob then says that he never PM'd that to Billy, and that he promises that he didn't say such a thing. The GP is then confused on who to trust, and then just warns Bob, but doesn't do anything else, since it's Bob's word versus Billy's. So now Billy gets pissed off because hes a whiny little kid that didn't get the opposing Bob thrown in jail, goes out of his way to go back to his server where he has access to rights, and then proceeds to ban said person from this server. Now, if said person were to die, and his mistake rectified by someone like a global, then there would be no post like this on these forums pissing people off. Lets see if you can make the connections between this entirly copied and editted post with the stupid arrogant little child that abused his rights to get his way. I would like to return to Zone. if you please. |
That thread had nothing to do with how you acted on NPulse. Heck, I could careless what you tell me on other servers, but you don't bring your hasty and disrespectful attitude to Zone. Other servers have easy going GP, but I don't take crap from disrespectful and immature players, that curse about as naturally as they breathe.
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I never did anything that was illegal on Zone you pompus arrogant little twit.
This is the worst i've ever said to you and this is a post because I'm pissed off with your actions. I have yet to swear at you on Zone and I have yet to do anything that warrents a ban. I started out with massing some answers to questions I was getting and you had to go all up in my face yelling at me saying crap like "Why the hell are you posting that thats my job shut up." I demand that I get restored to that server because I just want to play and have fun, but you couldn't god damn handle that. You had no right to ban me NO RIGHT. Any message I said to you had no illegal merit in it. |
Oh please, I have a file with logs that very much gives me more then enough right to ban you. Now, I have to handle many arrogant people as yourself most of the time on Zone, so kindly make your way out of this thread, for your lies will not get you anywhere.
I don't like banning players. Infact, I hate it, but I am forced to keep control of the server. If I let one person act up, then eventually the whole server will, and then things would be crazy. Quote:
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Right because you know logs can't be editted.
You've always had it out for me. Any time I do anything you're there insulting me for what I do. You would ban me in a second if I gave you the chance. Hell, I DIDN'T give you the chance and you still banned me. That's all you have to say? I know you better than that. You'll go out of your way for miles to insult me and rebuke any statment I make. I want to be unbanned. And you better believe that i'll keep going untill I get my player restored. I didn't do anything wrong and you know it. I'll rebuke any lies you have to give in a half hour when I finish dinner. |
Oh thats a new one, you're saying I edited the logs? WOW...definitely one for the books.
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So you had a bad experince, cut your losses and move on, not everyone tries to be like the ever so rightous style you wish they would. Quote:
YOU COME TO ZONE YOU MUST BE BRINGING THAT WITH YOU BANNED Quote:
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I think we should focus less on the cursing that does not hurt players, and focus more on the corruption of people who have no idea what-so-ever how to use their rights and continually run people off the gold servers. |
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Also: The word is 'foul'. Not 'fowl'. 'Fowl' is chicken. |
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Please, you don't play Zone, and you don't see me as I work on Zone, so don't just speak of things you don't know. Quote:
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If you're GP on a server, and I start cursing at you and disrespecting you, and the server had no jails (meaning banning is the source of punishment), and you warned me twice, and I continued, you wouldn't act upon it? If so, then I wouldn't consider you a very good GP. |
The POINT IS, though I did disrespect you, apparently, on N-Pulse, that gives you no right to ban me on Zone, for I did nothing that was illegal there nor was I given justification for my disconnections. I thought it was a server problem because it didn't say "By a server administrator" in the Dialogue Box.
Zone and N-Pulse are different servers, I did not act up on Zone nor did I curse or use racial remarks. I said the "s" word on N-Pulse, granted, but that does not transfer to Zone, no matter what rule you think you're following. I would like my account unbanned, if you please. EDIT: I only have a few weeks left on my Gold Time, and I wish to play Zone till it runs out. |
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Again: Is it actually illegal to disrespect you? |
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My sister was walking down a street once, dancing the chicken dance, and unexpectedly, a police was driving down the road and she was arrested for such. |
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You were banned on Zone before I got on NPulse, you just didn't realise that. The logs I have on you on NPulse are Invalid in this situation, but I have logs of what you said on Zone which gives me more then enough right to ban you. I gave you two chances, but you blew it. Now, we can go on and on, but honestly, I don't have time to do this. Call Stefan, call his house, call his cell phone, call his office, email him, send a support ticket, send a messenger over to him with a note, fax him, forum pm him, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CONTACT HIM, BUT BRING THIS UP WITH HIM. I have nothing to worry about, heck, call the president if you want. If I banned anyone because I was corrupt, then I'd be worried that the person was complaining, but I'm actually calm listening to music. I have finals all this week, so why would I go about editing some logs to ban someone, when I can ban someone and save the trouble of editing the logs? Of course, thats corrupt, and I would never do that, but I'm just saying. I've never done anything corrupt in my stay on Zone and I don't plan on it either. Now, take your claim somewhere else, like with Stefan or unixmad, or Bush himself. Have a great day. |
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I would like to see these logs that got me banned, as well. For I have never broken rules to you. The most i've done on Zone I sent you a bunch of stupid comments like "JOIN THE CONFEDERACY OR GET OUT". Or "GET OFF MY LAWN." Neither of which constitutes harassment or broken rules. Sorry, try again big guy. Want a soda? :frown: |
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As I said, consult Stefan with this issue.
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AKA Hypocrite! (WOO!! post 400!) |
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Lets hug! ^^ ;) :) |
Listen, I'll tell you what I told a friend of mines about this issue...
I'm 14, turning 15 on wednesday (two days from now). Yes, I rap in my spare time, and I'm going to high school. People diss others all the time. Heck, my friends and myself play around sometimes dissing each other also. So, no, I don't care/mind when someone disrespects me online, let alone in a game. But, I step my foot down, when it endangers the Zone environment. People act up a lot on Zone, and since I'm the only active staff member around to actually enforce the rules, then I have to be strict when it comes to people who disrespect others and act immaturely, and offend others, and use foul language directed at others. I DON'T LIKE HAVING TO BAN PEOPLE, but the fact of the matter is, I have to in order to set order. Most of the time I ban people because of speed hacking, but theres been times where I've had to handle people because of the way they were acting, and it was bothering the other players. I try to let a few comments slide by, but I gave you two warnings and you wouldn't stop. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, heck, I even addressed you that you've been given many warnings and you were on your second strike already, and you continued. So, I had to act. See, on Zone, I don't do things for myself, I do it for the players, and to protect the environment. When a force tries to unbalance the environment, then I have to act to try to re-balance it. |
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I find it quite funny that you gave him two warnings without stating to him what was done to be "illegal". Let's put it this way. If you disconnected him since he broke a few rules, at least you could warn him with the exact rule(s) which was broken when he logged online once again. That's a part of your job. Permanently banned for disrespectful attitude? Hah. That isn't a fair punishment. If players were banned on playerworlds for disrespectful attitude, then a lot of Graal would be banned by now. The point is Graal has players who will disrespect you. It happens, just deal with it. As long as it's not affecting the game play of the entire playerworld, then just deal with it on your own. Being a staff member on a Gold Playerworld, I would expect better from you. The reason is that you are taking such a small, personal issue that is only affecting yourself, and you ban a player for it. It's not affecting Zone itself, so why ban the player? |
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1) If you ban everybody that sends offensive PMs then you'll be the one endangering Zone. 2) If people are rude to you, it doesn't imply that they're rude to everybody. 3) Anybody can ignore PMs. Overall, removing players has a more deleterious effect. |
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If someone has planted a bomb in a school, do you disarm the bomb and arrest the person, or wait til the bomb explodes and then arrest the person? Quote:
I don't ignore the players, because I'm staff, and one day they may need to contact me for possibly an important reason. I feel that if a staff member is forced to ignore a player, then the GP are not doing there job. If anyone bothers you to the point where you have to ignore them, then thats harrassment. Now, when someone approaches you with foul language and disrespect, well, thats a different issue. It's not everyday that people send me offensive messages. It's very very very very few players that do, and sadly, they are warned and do not stop. I don't just ban players, I warn them first. Most players I've banned was due to speed hacking. I think I've only banned like two or three players for acting up. As I said, it doesn't happen much that players act up. At times, players say things, playing around, so when I warn them, they apologize and say they were just kidding, so I let it slide. A person has to constantly disrespect myself or another with the use of foul remarks/words for me to ban them, which is what happened in this case. |
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You can NOT solve a problem using other examples as an outline of what to do. You have to base all your information on the problem itself and the best solution. |
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Well disrespect isn't a metaphorical bomb in a school, as disrespecting one person isn't going to blow up the server. And in Graal case and situation, you HAVE to wait before the "bomb explodes" before you arrest them. Graal != Life Malinko is, in short hand, making more points than I am, what you did was wrong. |
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The situation itself was not what you should've been worrying about. It was my intentions in posting the example that you should've looked at. |
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If someone has said the word 'bomb' in a school, do you arrest the person or do you wait 'til he learns how to make bombs, makes a bomb, plants the bomb, explodes the bomb and then arrest him? Clearly the former is best! Do you see? |
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That is a completely different situation. I said the person has planted the bomb, not that someone said the word bomb, or that they were planning on it. |
Two different servers it would seem, not sure why you used your power to get to him on another server , pretty ****ed I have to say.
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What in the world are you talking about? The Zone incident occured, he was banned, but he got off the server before noticing he was banned. I got on NPulse, he pm'd me laughing at me saying that he could tell me whatever he wanted on this server since it wasnt Zone and I wouldnt be able to do anything, so then he continues the disrespectful talk, I report it to Moonie, he lies and says that I edited the logs, Moonie warns him, then I get off for bed. I was actually expecting a thread like this from him, since he can't seem to follow the rules, so he just goes on breaking them. So, I get home from school, relax a bit, check forums after a bit and viola here it is. |
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I'm making a counter-example, challenging you to show that your analogy is parallel to the actual issue. In what sense has the original poster "planted a bomb"? |
I remember when I was on Zone, and I massed a comment using a word (the male organ), and Gambet disconnected me, I logged back on and he said if I said anything again he'd ban me for disrespecting him. He then said Stefan would have banned me on the first offense. I can back this up, ask Kevin, he was online and in the same room when this happened.
Gambet is a fool, he's tried to argue on the boards concerning several topics, I'm suprised he hasn't banned me for disrespecting him. Whenever someone comes up with an idea, he immediately shoots it down for whatever reason. I think its because sometimes it is a good idea, and he fears that he could, no would be replaced. I've heard many stories about him banning people for obsurd reasons, and here is another example. An arguement broke out on another server, and because one side lost, they decide to return to their server and ban them. There was no reason why he should have banned him just for that (if this is the truth). Just because he said something on another server doesn't mean he'd continue the arguement on another server. |
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Damn, you're slandering the good name of Graal Gold members. Get off my lawn. |
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On the internet, you must adjust yourself to annoying twits saying stupid things. You cannot just ban them from a game they’re paying for JUST because of that and expect yourself to be viewed on the correct side of this. You haven’t shown these supposed logs -- besides, you don’t ban people for this. I know Blizzard doesn’t ban you simply for cursing once or twice; they don’t ban for cursing, unless you say something seriously wrong, and then you receive a soulshard or something or that sort. If you get three of those, you are temporarily banned. Also to consider, Blizzard automatically bans for exploits. Take a cue and ban under correct terms. |
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If I posted the logs I'd be banned myself. |
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