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csod123 03-15-2005 03:59 AM

this is sad
 
if you look at any of the other kingdoms you will find lots of thireads, this is the first in weeks. i know aki wanted us to pm her but i believe that this is a matter that should be discussed openly, i will go on tag and be the only one on so i quit being on tag all of the time.drakeero once said something to me that kind of irritates me, "you shouldn't be rewarded for doing what your supposed to do" then what is the point of doing it, if you all don't know who drakeero is he was the head of the ministry of defence.

Waltz5 03-15-2005 05:21 AM

It seems to me like every Kingdom has something wrong with it, besided not RPing.

It sucks too, I get back into the game and can't do something I enjoyed the most from Graal.

Zero Hour 03-15-2005 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
drakeero once said something to me that kind of irritates me, "you shouldn't be rewarded for doing what your supposed to do" then what is the point of doing it, if you all don't know who drakeero is he was the head of the ministry of defence.

Drakeero was absolutely right. Why do you expect people to fall to their knees and say "Oh, nameless one, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON TAG!!!"

Some people's children ):

meishanli 03-15-2005 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
if you look at any of the other kingdoms you will find lots of thireads, this is the first in weeks. i know aki wanted us to pm her but i believe that this is a matter that should be discussed openly, i will go on tag and be the only one on so i quit being on tag all of the time.drakeero once said something to me that kind of irritates me, "you shouldn't be rewarded for doing what your supposed to do" then what is the point of doing it, if you all don't know who drakeero is he was the head of the ministry of defence.

I said I would prefered if you sent me a PM, but anyhow, no difference I guess.

Everyone has been saying that to me lately that "they're the only ones on tag!" but magically when I log on the game, I have around 3-4 on at least. Well what do you want? Do you want to be rewarded to be on tag all the time?

Going on tag should be done in the first place, oh and did I mention I can't force players to log on the game? Take a look of the member list in Zormite... whenever I'm on, I always recruit. Everyone seems to quit, the actual game -Graal-.

I do admit I haven't been extremely active, but I do fit kingdoms in my time. Exams are near, so I've been pretty much busy however, I'm easily contacted.

csod123 03-15-2005 04:24 PM

i know you are doing what you can Akira, but if people don't have a reason to be on tag why should they? because it is the right thing to do? i am not saying give them all this stuff, but perhaps some meetings or kingdoms events, anything that would make them think wow there is something going on i should check it out. the most zormites i ever saw on tag was when we were "at war" with KJ. i think the other zormite officials should be helping out more and if they are i must have missed it. and i am not saying i am the only one on tag, at least not anymore. back when Wren was dictatress(no it has nothing to do with new leadership) i was, every now and then someone else was on. i have had things come up so i havn't been on graal as much as i used to, i am glad you're not hard on that. this was going on back when Wren was dictatress there was hardly anyone on when i was on, even when i sighn on now there is probaly 0-3 other people sighned on, but when she sighned on there would be suddenly eleven other people sighning on.

XGoLink 03-15-2005 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5
It seems to me like every Kingdom has something wrong with it, besided not RPing.

Forest can role play.. Only the Pirates and the Samurais have problems..

Gambet 03-15-2005 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Everyone has been saying that to me lately that "they're the only ones on tag!"


That would be due to timezones.

Discharge 03-15-2005 05:38 PM

Some kingdoms need to be erased and merge with other kingdoms because there are some kingdoms that cannot hold a substanially active memberlist.

csod123 03-15-2005 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink
Forest can role play.. Only the Pirates and the Samurais have problems..

no one said forest couldn't, but i don't like to rp every single second i am on graal.

meishanli 03-15-2005 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by csod123
i think the other zormite officials should be helping out more and if they are i must have missed it.

Agreed. I have selected the Zormite officials, but soon they became inactive and partly left the game- just like everyone else. GK itself has been dying abit, a reason why all kingdoms have less and less members these days.

I am currently looking for a new leader for the NAPZ or MOD. I'll be able to get a few things sorted out this weekend and weekdays, to notify all the members about the positions that are available. (But do note; it is hard to find people with the abilities and requirements leading a ministry)

XGoLink 03-15-2005 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by csod123
no one said forest couldn't, but i don't like to rp every single second i am on graal.

Uhm.. I gues you mean Graal Kingoms.. if you dont wanna RP do this: a) Start a guild b) Go off tag c) Play another server

csod123 03-16-2005 02:36 AM

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Uhm.. I gues you mean Graal Kingoms.. if you dont wanna RP do this: a) Start a guild

why
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Originally Posted by XGoLink
b) Go off tag

that adds to inactivity
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Originally Posted by XGoLink
c) Play another server

if i wanted to play another server i would go one another server

Zero Hour 03-16-2005 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
why

Because then you can select the members, and choose only those who are also interested in RPing.
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that adds to inactivity
Well, from your point of view you're *the only member on ever* so I don't think you need to worry about inactivity.
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if i wanted to play another server i would go one another server
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csod123 03-16-2005 03:22 AM

i am not saying i am not interested in rp, but i like to be on tag when i am on kingdoms, i got tired of being left out of stuff so it developed into a knack. and i am not going through all the trouble to make a guild.

Kaimetsu 03-16-2005 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
that adds to inactivity

Better to have nobody than a few people that don't want to roleplay. You know what kingdoms are for, right?

Zero Hour 03-16-2005 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
i am not saying i am not interested in rp, but i like to be on tag when i am on kingdoms, i got tired of being left out of stuff so it developed into a knack. and i am not going through all the trouble to make a guild.

By going through all of that trouble just once (It really isn't that hard) you can RP like you said you're interested in.... and you can be on tag while you're on kingdoms.

Waltz5 03-16-2005 03:24 AM

I already said this... the only way you guys will improve RPing on GK is having the staff, namely a Kingdoms Admin just dedicated to the kingdoms to keep on top of the kingdoms. If someone or some kingdom is pulling their weight then something is done. Eg. New kingdom leader

csod123 03-16-2005 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Better to have nobody than a few people that don't want to roleplay. You know what kingdoms are for, right?

i disagree, i rp i just don't want to do it all the time, times i don't like to rp: when i am training, mining( when i am out of money and house is falling apart). other than that i am rping, but the second i quit doing it i get called a noob which is just annoying cause i am not. also i don't rp much cause thier is no one to rp with.


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Originally Posted by Waltz5
I already said this... the only way you guys will improve RPing on GK is having the staff, namely a Kingdoms Admin just dedicated to the kingdoms to keep on top of the kingdoms. If someone or some kingdom is pulling their weight then something is done. Eg. New kingdom leader

akira is pulling twice her weight. she has no one to help her, no one can run a kingdom by thier self.

Kaimetsu 03-16-2005 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
i disagree, i rp i just don't want to do it all the time

I am not saying you should not be in a kingdom. I am saying you should not be representing your kingdom in the times when you are not interested in roleplaying!

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the second i quit doing it i get called a noob
By whom? And how do they know when you are RPing?

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i don't rp much cause thier is no one to rp with
There's, like, everybody on the server. That's usually more than 'no one'.

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no one can run a kingdom by thier self.
This does not seem very convincing.

csod123 03-16-2005 03:43 AM

well it is true no one person can run a kingdom and i can debate with you for hours but that is for another time, i have seen this happen too many times on the forums and this is something i care about. if you don't have anything helpful to say shut up.

Kaimetsu 03-16-2005 03:46 AM

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well it is true no one person can run a kingdom

This is not significantly more convincing.

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if you don't have anything helpful to say shut up.
Is that your policy as well? Are all of your posts helpful?

Waltz5 03-16-2005 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
akira is pulling twice her weight. she has no one to help her, no one can run a kingdom by thier self.

Ok, well what if there was a total kingdom wipe, and good solid leaders were put in who actually know how to RP and will not accept just anyone in the kingdom just to get mere numbers?

I don't know, it's just obvious the current situation isn't working and it sucks... because I'm one who did enjoy RPing and honestly once it gets going with a full head of steam it's fun for everyone in the kingdom.

There is so many things you could do to make RPing more active with the different islands and everything, just would take some work.

csod123 03-16-2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
This is not significantly more convincing.

all the other kingdoms have officials that assist the leader. a kingdom that is thriving doesn't leave everything up to one person. even in a dictatorship thier are officials that help out the dictator


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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Is that your policy as well? Are all of your posts helpful?

no, no ones is, but this is the biggest problem in zormite. that is why i am not wanting any crap here so shut up kai, save it for other threads.

Kaimetsu 03-16-2005 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by csod123
all the other kingdoms have officials that assist the leader

Possibly. What exactly do you think the leader's duties are? How many hours per week would they consume?

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shut up kai, save it for other threads.
I believe I have as much right to post here as you. If you do not want to argue with me then don't argue with me.

csod123 03-16-2005 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5
There is so many things you could do to make RPing more active with the different islands and everything, just would take some work.

good luck with that :\

Debaglio 03-16-2005 06:30 AM

I have no clue what anyone on here but Aki is saying. If you guys were on a little more maybe you'd see that there is plenty going on.

meishanli 03-16-2005 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5
..will not accept just anyone in the kingdom just to get mere numbers?

If you're refering to me then maybe I should have explained what I meant in detail.

I log on the game, and find people to recruit who has the ability to roleplay, or have the basics at least so then they can develop their skills.
Before they even play the game to it's full potential, they 'quit'. All the co-leaders has all left, like I said in my last post, I'm looking for replacements.

To find those replacements, there are certain requirements needed. Now, if only you knew how hard it was to find someone...GK is very different comparing it to the older days. There's only a small handful of people; No, not even that, one or two (or none) who is able to understand the concepts of the role. or to even stay mature

I haven't seen you around at all. Do you even play GK? The conditions are the same for every kingdom...only a few seen on-tag.

I would say only take out the kingdom leaders who are doing nothing at all, who have no record of doing anything, then they should be removed and replaced.

Gambet 03-16-2005 03:31 PM

Aki is doing the best she can right now. The players on Graal Kingdoms have been very inactive lately and there really isnt much she can do but wait and hope for the best. Most of the players on Graal Kingdoms are new players who dont know much about the server, so you cant really expect much.

XGoLink 03-16-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by csod123
why

Because Graal Kingdoms is a role play server

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Originally Posted by csod123
that adds to inactivity

If you dont wanna be inactive, role play, Geez..

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if i wanted to play another server i would go one another server

Maybe you should if you cant (wont) role play

XGoLink 03-16-2005 04:33 PM

Thats right :D

csod123 03-16-2005 05:20 PM

this is really getting annoying, this isn't about when i roleplay it is about idea to get zormite back up, and if i played other server how would that help.you all really need to pay more attention to what i am saying.

Waltz5 03-16-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
II log on the game, and find people to recruit who has the ability to roleplay, or have the basics at least so then they can develop their skills.Before they even play the game to it's full potential, they 'quit'. All the co-leaders has all left, like I said in my last post, I'm looking for replacements.

Ok fair enough, as long as you actually do what you say I have no problem with that and it's good to see.

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To find those replacements, there are certain requirements needed. Now, if only you knew how hard it was to find someone...GK is very different comparing it to the older days. There's only a small handful of people; No, not even that, one or two (or none) who is able to understand the concepts of the role. or to even stay mature
True, but I think it's pretty easy to take a promising RPer in your kingdom, take them under your wing and really concentrate on that 1 player to fill these spots and then move on.

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I haven't seen you around at all. Do you even play GK?
For some reason I don't even understand yes I do.

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The conditions are the same for every kingdom...only a few seen on-tag.
That's what I meant, I wasn't attacking Zormite, every kingdom needs a "kick in the pants."

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I would say only take out the kingdom leaders who are doing nothing at all, who have no record of doing anything, then they should be removed and replaced.
Again I agree with you.


I don't really know what to suggest to do honestly, but I think something should be done. And not only the Kingdom leaders, the Staff can also make RPing much more fun with improvements or additions. For example, if you give something the players to "battle" over they'll be much more inclined to RP.

meishanli 03-16-2005 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5
True, but I think it's pretty easy to take a promising RPer in your kingdom, take them under your wing and really concentrate on that 1 player to fill these spots and then move on.

Which I am doing or have done. :) But again, they happen to leave after a few weeks. x_x

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Originally Posted by Waltz5
I don't really know what to suggest to do honestly, but I think something should be done. And not only the Kingdom leaders, the Staff can also make RPing much more fun with improvements or additions. For example, if you give something the players to "battle" over they'll be much more inclined to RP.

Agreed fully, but they are doing small multiple RP events now and then.. but I guess just not strictly based on RP, you know? The majority of the players would proberly say "RP sucks!" >lack of motivation>too lazy to learn.

XGoLink 03-16-2005 09:27 PM

Tss.. you guys ae just to lazy to host a event.. Dont complain, YOU, as a kingdom leader could make this game much better, so dont complain..

meishanli 03-16-2005 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink
Tss.. you guys ae just to lazy to host a event.. Dont complain, YOU, as a kingdom leader could make this game much better, so dont complain..

Who's complaining?

We're pointing out the fact that players are going off GK.

How can a leader make the game overall, 'better'? I still do hold events for Zormite now and then. If I did it all the time, it won't be classed as an event.

Again, I'm not complaining. It's more of pointing out facts.

XGoLink 03-16-2005 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Who's complaining?

You and your kingdom..

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How can a leader make the game [I]overall[/I'better'??

Wars and Events with other kingdoms
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I still do hold events for Zormite now and then. If I did it all the time, it won't be classed as an event.

Then do it more, your kingdom is complaining about inactivity =( And I dont see why it wont be classed as an event..
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Again, I'm not complaining. It's more of pointing out facts.

Uhm, if so, your kingdom is.. :rolleyes:

meishanli 03-16-2005 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink
You and your kingdom..

I don't get what you're saying. Myself and kingdom are complaining about what? Do you know what you're talking about? If you didn't know already, we're discussing what could be done to improve the kingdom and the game, since it's part of the reason why all kingdoms are pretty much inactive.

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Wars and Events with other kingdoms

True, kingdom events together would help. But 3-4 people in the kingdoms participating isn't going to make much of a war.

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Then do it more, your kingdom is complaining about inactivity =( And I dont see why it wont be classed as an event..

Re-read my last post, and read the posts through the thread. I don't need to explain again.

XGoLink 03-16-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
True, kingdom events together would help. But 3-4 people in the kingdoms participating isn't going to make much of a war.

Then we want new kingdoms and put a noob in charge that can role play and knows the rules etc.. See... Noobs make this game fun.. If they would be in lead, there will be war o-o But noo, no Queen will leave the stupid thrown..

<Edited by Akira. Please stay on topic, rather than throwing personal insults.>

meishanli 03-16-2005 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XGoLink
Then we want new kingdoms and put a noob in charge that can role play and knows the rules etc.. See... Noobs make this game fun.. If they would be in lead, there will be war o-o But noo, no Queen will leave the stupid thrown.

You obviously don't know how much I do for Zormite.

I do teach new players, the ones you refer to 'Noobs'. How would 'noobs' make the game fun and how do you know they will make war? They wouldn't be leading a kingdom, if they were 'noobs'. I don't know your definition for 'noobs' but to me, it means new players.

You posts are becoming more and more irrelavant, making lack of sense.

If you have a proper suggestion, feel free to say and I will take it in. Otherwise, if you don't, don't bother posting.

XGoLink 03-16-2005 10:29 PM

Note: Going off topic is NOT illegal.. I repeat: Change your signature, its stupid, anoying and uncool :D


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