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Slash-P2P 12-09-2004 04:12 AM

Server Merger
 
Codename Element will be merging with Bravo Evolved!

The staff of the two servers (mostly Mystical Dragon and myself) will be working out the details, but we are planning on combining parts of both servers (don't worry - it wont be modern).

[EDIT]
We will be taking the best parts of the two servers, and combining them into 1 awesome server.
[/EDIT]
According to the forums, this is the 47,000th thread.

Nitkizi 12-09-2004 04:27 AM

Explain the parts more specifically.

Slash-P2P 12-09-2004 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitkizi
Explain the parts more specifically.

I guess Glub will be making some graphics such as tiles for the new server. Most of the server will be Element but some things like tree graphics will be transferred over.

Not many details have been worked out yet.

Mykel 12-09-2004 05:36 AM

Umm. Hmm. K? Good luck.

xAndrewx 12-09-2004 09:16 AM

I don't like the idea, Sorry.

Doahh_p2p 12-09-2004 04:13 PM

Uh oh

All i can say is....

Eew
Taking a good server and mixing witth bad... Hmm Not a good idea

zokemon 12-09-2004 07:38 PM

I personally don't aprove of the idea but if MD and Slash wish to do so I am not going to stop them. I am probably going to be helping them do it anyways >_>

xAndrewx 12-09-2004 07:44 PM

Haha, what's Bravo going to merge with if it isn't modern? >_<

zokemon if you dont like it share your opinion you are afterall staff there.

Crono 12-09-2004 08:00 PM

bad idea, modern bravo ruled.

zokemon 12-09-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Haha, what's Bravo going to merge with if it isn't modern? >_<

Zero if you dont like it share your opinion you are afterall staff there.

I just don't like the idea because it means that there is one less server I am working on. Unless I could like split into 2 people and work twice as much o_O
I also wanted to have a modern server that I made really nice but also a RP/Classic server that i made nice...
Now I can't get both of those.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
bad idea, modern bravo ruled.

Funny how it seems you don't like me (I think?), but you like the two servers that I put really good work into.

NeoJenova 12-09-2004 09:18 PM

What about... Brandon? Does he not still own Bravo? Wouldn't he have say as to what happens to it.

Slash-P2P 12-09-2004 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoJenova
What about... Brandon? Does he not still own Bravo? Wouldn't he have say as to what happens to it.

Brandon stepped down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doahh_p2p
Taking a good server and mixing witth bad... Hmm Not a good idea

Mixing with bad? What do you think is bad?
If your calling either of the servers bad, I suggest you make sure your server is better than one of them.


As of now, Element will stay the same but some things (such as events and quests) from Bravo will be put on the server. We wil also have double the staff so projects can be done much quicker. Bravo is sitting on the server list doing nothing and this is better than nothing ever happening.

I personally hate modern servers because no matter what you do, newbies associate guns with Era and Era only. I bet you all agreed modern Bravo was different than Era, yet I still received PMs/Mass Messages from people complaining that the server was a rip off of Era. Until these *****s are mature, I don't want to work on a modern server and listen to the complaining.

Some of you people think that its going to be a modern and RP server. ITS NOT. Its basically Element with events, quests, some tiles, etc... from Bravo.
It might also be Bravo with certain things from Element.

zokemon 12-09-2004 10:11 PM

I also have to step down as Server OP then? o_O
What would my position be?
Server OP/Admin xD
Sounds funny.

Slash-P2P 12-09-2004 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zokemon
I also have to step down as Server OP then? o_O
What would my position be?
Server OP/Admin xD
Sounds funny.

I'll work on positions ;)
It was MD's idea that only him and I would be ServerOP.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 12:22 AM

Well there's still going to be 2 servers left right? Maybe 1 could be Bravo with element mixed in, and the other could be the opposite. Unless one of them is deleting the server then there could be 2 products right? Sorry if I am wrong.

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falco10291029
Well there's still going to be 2 servers left right? Maybe 1 could be Bravo with element mixed in, and the other could be the opposite. Unless one of them is deleting the server then there could be 2 products right? Sorry if I am wrong.

Yes. There will be 2 servers.
Both servers will be backed up before the merger, then bravo will be used to host the merged server on. Since Bravo was created before the hosting plan, it doesn't need to be payed for annually/bi-anually. We will use bravo's server for the main server (so it will be up longer) and we an use element's server for a development server (where all the staff are on). Only the high staff (ServerOPs) will have access to the main server (like Graal Kingdoms and Debug). Since a development server isnt really needed much, we will use it until it runs out and decide whether or not to spend the money on another 6 months or a year.

Malinko 12-10-2004 01:39 AM

Whoa, bad idea. If you want to merge, just be in charge of both seperate servers.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 02:01 AM

Yeah, a development serve is more or less pointless if staff are only allowed on the main, you can just use that, plus if they merge and bravos taff work on element, you'll have it classic soon and wont pay for that either

zokemon 12-10-2004 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malinko
Whoa, bad idea. If you want to merge, just be in charge of both seperate servers.

Slash, MD and I always were incharge of both servers o_O
We are just deciding to mix them together I guess.

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falco10291029
Yeah, a development serve is more or less pointless if staff are only allowed on the main, you can just use that, plus if they merge and bravos taff work on element, you'll have it classic soon and wont pay for that either

Read my post.
Low staff are only allowed on Development.
High staff are allowed on Main and Development.

Yeah. I won't have to pay for a gserver, and I am still deciding whether or not to pay for a server that isn't really needed...You know that servers on the hosted plan that go classic still have to pay, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zokemon
Slash, MD and I always were incharge of both servers o_O
We are just deciding to mix them together I guess.

MD has been in charge for a long time :)
I came in as a NAT about two years ago.
Then you came in sometime.

I went from like a nothing NAT to ServerOP :)

falco10291029 12-10-2004 04:40 AM

Quote:

Yeah. I won't have to pay for a gserver, and I am still deciding whether or not to pay for a server that isn't really needed...You know that servers on the hosted plan that go classic still have to pay, right?
Yo umena if you move from hosted to classic you still pay? I was told this isnt true

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falco10291029
Yo umena if you move from hosted to classic you still pay? I was told this isnt true

Yes you still have to pay. The current playerworlds don't pay because all of them are older than the PW Hosting system.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlashP2P
Yes you still have to pay. The current playerworlds don't pay because all of them are older than the PW Hosting system.

That stinks.... I was hoping to only have to pay until EK went classic, but I geuss by the time it does I will have sufficiently more income and will be able to afford a yearly payment until they decide to make those servers not pay :-/

zokemon 12-10-2004 05:08 AM

You might not have to pay if your server because popular AND goes to classic. Like meaning it draws new people onto graal.

Leasure-13 12-10-2004 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash-P2P
Codename Element will be merging with Bravo
Evolved!

I have always wanted to see 2 servers do this. And to see how it would go. Good Luck on this project! :cool:

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zokemon
You might not have to pay if your server because popular AND goes to classic. Like meaning it draws new people onto graal.

Yeah but I doubt you would get your server hosted for free.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlashP2P
Yeah but I doubt you would get your server hosted for free.

No, but you might be able to get donations from people towards keeping the server up if it's popular enough.

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falco10291029
No, but you might be able to get donations from people towards keeping the server up if it's popular enough.

Someone offered to pay for my server if he got RC.
I will be setting up a donation system soon. I would do it now but I hate doing PayPal stuff.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 05:19 AM

See, there's my point :)

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 05:26 AM

Yeah but I'm not giving out RCs for people paying for my server. Its too much of a hassle, and it doesnt seem right.

If you people would like to donate, I will set up donations on PayPal and you can donate whatever you want.

falco10291029 12-10-2004 05:30 AM

I need to learn how to do that, and get my parents to set me up a paypal, to get donations for EK.

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falco10291029
I need to learn how to do that, and get my parents to set me up a paypal, to get donations for EK.

Its simple but annoying. You log into paypal and find the donations part. You have to email verify a bunch of times before you can get donations set up :\

Brandon 12-11-2004 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash-P2P
Brandon stepped down.

Oh, really? When was I to be informed of this?


...

No, I didn't, and we'll talk more about this later. :)

falco10291029 12-11-2004 05:26 AM

Oh a plot twist! :)

zokemon 12-11-2004 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon
Oh, really? When was I to be informed of this?


...

No, I didn't, and we'll talk more about this later. :)

Ouch.

Eagle 12-11-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doahh_p2p
Uh oh

All i can say is....

Eew
Taking a good server and mixing witth bad... Hmm Not a good idea

Please explain how eatheir Bravo or Element is a "bad" server. I assume your talking about Bravo, and alot of hard work and origionality went into that server, and I believe it was alot better then anything you could produce. Just because some people don't like it doesn't make it a bad place to play. I am sure there are plenty others (like myself) who enjoyed playing Bravo. So please shut up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon
Oh, really? When was I to be informed of this?

Heh.

Slash-P2P 12-12-2004 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon
Oh, really? When was I to be informed of this?


...

No, I didn't, and we'll talk more about this later. :)

Sorry, I received false information.

NeoJenova 12-12-2004 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon
Oh, really? When was I to be informed of this?


...

No, I didn't, and we'll talk more about this later. :)

Haha... <3

ZeroTrack 12-12-2004 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash-P2P
Codename Element will be merging with Bravo Evolved!

The staff of the two servers (mostly Mystical Dragon and myself) will be working out the details, but we are planning on combining parts of both servers (don't worry - it wont be modern).

[EDIT]
We will be taking the best parts of the two servers, and combining them into 1 awesome server.
[/EDIT]
According to the forums, this is the 47,000th thread.

its more like me and you slash =p

Malinko 12-12-2004 03:14 PM

The problem with Bravo was, that so many staff did their own small projects and combined it into one big one. It was still the same themed idea, just mixed up, and didn't follow right. Yes, a lot of work was put into Bravo, was a great place, just not so organized. I think we all wanted it out on public that we didn't take time xD.


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