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Obs311 11-06-2004 05:35 AM

Ok, this is bugging me
 
This is the second time that fortifications have gotten stuck on the altar of Govannon. Either re-enable the Earth to Dust spell, fix the fortifications, or disable the fortifications. I can't take them down either.

Splke 11-06-2004 05:54 AM

Who put them there? And why don't you just hack n slash em?

LordMatt 11-06-2004 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Splke
Who put them there? And why don't you just hack n slash em?

Anything on the altar is protected from being hurt, I think.

meishanli 11-06-2004 08:31 PM

Disable putting forts down on main island... didn't know you could do that :O

xAndrewx 11-07-2004 10:33 AM

<3akria plz

Splke 11-07-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LordMatt
Anything on the altar is protected from being hurt, I think.

People certaintly aren't. :)

GoZelda 11-07-2004 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Disable putting forts down on main island... didn't know you could do that :O

Oh yes, ban any more RP promoting features. You certainly were not chosen as the Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ) for your RPing skills, that is clear.

meishanli 11-07-2004 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Oh yes, ban any more RP promoting features. You certainly were not chosen as the Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ) for your RPing skills, that is clear.

":whatever:" at your comment.

I'm just saying disable the fortifications only on main island because someone was putting them down all over outside the trade house, and everyone who walked out got stuck. And as this thread says, someone put forts on the altar, so people couldn't bless there. It gets rather annoying and difficult to destroy all of them.

I wasn't saying disable all forts, but just on main island to avoid these situations.

xAndrewx 11-07-2004 11:39 PM

Draven, Your brother doesn't even know the meaning of RP. If we actually wanted this to turn into a flame thread be my guest, But as akira has said she is asking for something reasonable like the rest of us. I also agree on what she want's done. Don't you?
Or did you forget about that and lead this thread onto more flaming?

TeRRi2k 11-07-2004 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Oh yes, ban any more RP promoting features. You certainly were not chosen as the Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ) for your RPing skills, that is clear.

That comment was uncalled for: Someone stated a problem, she stated a suggestion, and you decided to say that she is not fit to be the Dictatress because of a suggestion she made, something that has nothing to do with the problem at hand. It's only a suggestion, it's not like it's going to happen for sure anyway.

Maybe disable them only at certain areas where it cannot be taken down like the altar? Since if it's outside shops, they can still be removed. And if it's only for certain areas it would not interfer with any rping going on in main island, cept the altars.

zell12 11-08-2004 02:57 AM

The main island is not meant to be a RolePlay enviroment.

GoZelda 11-08-2004 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
I wasn't saying disable all forts, but just on main island to avoid these situations.

So people that do not wish to join a kingdom because of the low quality of RPing (if any) they expect to see there cannot RP in a 'neutral' enviroment?

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and you decided to say that she is not fit to be the Dictatress because of a suggestion she made,

I never said that.

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something that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.

It has to do with the problem at hand.

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Draven, Your brother doesn't even know the meaning of RP.

I believe he does ^^

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But as akira has said she is asking for something reasonable like the rest of us.

Please improve your grammar. Neither is Akira asking something, she is more of demanding it.

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I also agree on what she want's done. Don't you?

No I don't, which I already made quite clear.

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Or did you forget about that and lead this thread onto more flaming?

I haven't seen any 'flaming' as of yet.

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Originally Posted by zell12
The main island is not meant to be a RolePlay enviroment.

Could you provide me with any 'official' material that reads so?

meishanli 11-08-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
So people that do not wish to join a kingdom because of the low quality of RPing (if any) they expect to see there cannot RP in a 'neutral' enviroment?

Putting fortifications down places where people get stuck isn't RP. :rolleyes:

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Please improve your grammar. Neither is Akira asking something, she is more of demanding it.

I'm not demanding, it was more of an suggestion. Like Hurumi said, someone stated a problem and I stated a suggestion. Sorry if you got the wrong impression.

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No I don't, which I already made quite clear.

If you don't like my suggestion fair enough. You should give reasons why you don't like it, than making useless comments.

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I haven't seen any 'flaming' as of yet.

You making the unnecessary comment seemed like you wanted to start a flaming.

Anyway back on topic. Maybe at least some certain areas where its disabled(Like trade house) or something. And not places where the RP can be disrupted.

GoZelda 11-08-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by meishanli
Putting fortifications down places where people get stuck isn't RP. :rolleyes:

I'm glad you realised that.

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If you don't like my suggestion fair enough. You should give reasons why you don't like it, than making useless comments.

Didn't I already make it clear why I didn't agree with it? Yes, I did.

busyrobot 11-08-2004 09:25 PM

GoZelda, you are not one to talk about RPing. Heck, I don't think anyone is. There is very little RPing, unlike 2k1, 2k2 is a stat/mechanics driven game, just with high aspirations for RPing.

Some people work at improving RP and others like you just complain about others, somehow believing their own lazyiness and lack of RPing can be blamed on everyone else but themselves. I honestly don't care if you RP or not, people play to have fun. If you actually RP and have fun with it, then do so by all means. Attacking others baselessly and out of the blue is not fun for them, nor is it indictutive that you are exactly enjoying yourself either.

If you don't like the idea of forts being removed from main just say so. If you go off on people for no reason all you do is make yourself look all the worse for it.

GoZelda 11-08-2004 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
GoZelda, you are not one to talk about RPing.

You are so schooled by my signature's links.

Splke 11-08-2004 10:19 PM

Goddamn.. disable forties, and stop bashing Zormite or I'll GIVE Akira a nice long 50+ page story based on the Zormite History and quite frankly, plenty of annoying ****ing RP that would be tedious as HELL to actually RP properly.

busyrobot 11-09-2004 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
You are so schooled by my signature's links.

I see, an RP profile and some basic rules posted on your site means you RP? :rolleyes:

Uhm.....try being in 'character' in the 'game' and lol, rp a bit.

Like I said before, you are one to talk about RPing. If you spent half the time you complain in the forums actually in the game RPing maybe you'd be half as good as you think you are.

GoZelda 11-09-2004 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
I see, an RP profile and some basic rules posted on your site means you RP? :rolleyes:

Why do you think so?

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
Uhm.....try being in 'character' in the 'game' and lol, rp a bit.

I do.

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Like I said before, you are one to talk about RPing. If you spent half the time you complain in the forums actually in the game RPing maybe you'd be half as good as you think you are.

I don't know what's up with you, but I spend so little time complaining on the forums I doubt it'd make me half as good as you think I think I am. Because seriously, how in the hell would you be able to know what I think?

TeRRi2k 11-10-2004 03:58 AM

Well you certainly are complaining in this thread, or seeking out unecessary things to complain about. Complaint, showing disatisfaction towards a person, a thought, an idea...:

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
Oh yes, ban any more RP promoting features. You certainly were not chosen as the Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ) for your RPing skills, that is clear.

...meaning you are unsatisfied with her idea. If you don't like her idea, how about try proposing an idea and we'll judge it.


Anyhow. Not sure why we'are all aruging about this, but one thing I'm more concerned is why you are attacking Akira for this. So she made a suggestion that MIGHT interfere with GK rping a bit. On the otherhand, it might NOT interfere with rp as much anyway or at all; who really rps on main island everyday? Better yet, who really uses forts to rp everyday anyway? I bet the majority of the people do not use them.

Btw, suggesting a possible solution, regardless if it's good or bad, helpful or not helpful at all, just because it does not promote RP features or w/e, doesn't necessarily mean a person has none or poor RPing skills.

She tried to help; at least she suggested something.

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It has to do with the problem at hand.

What does her rping ability/how she was chosen as dictatress have to do with forts on main island? Maybe somehow you can think of a connection relating to her rp ability etc., but think of a direct, -relevant- relation and we'll be convinced.

Splke 11-10-2004 07:17 AM

You know.. he really didn't attack her, he questioned her integrity as an RPer. You all are making it out as if he attacked her, and he is simply defending his right to question her role and her suggestion. What's so wrong with that?

Emily_Cruddas 11-10-2004 07:40 AM

Have the fortifications been delt with yet? If not maybe everyone should wait until it is? It's just not useful to yell at each other after this. :cool:

xAndrewx 11-10-2004 11:53 AM

Since when the **** did links make the player a rper cyrin?

GoZelda 11-10-2004 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
Since when the **** did links make the player a rper cyrin?

I never said it made me a RPer, you dolt.

GoZelda 11-10-2004 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
Well you certainly are complaining in this thread, or seeking out unecessary things to complain about. Complaint, showing disatisfaction towards a person, a thought, an idea...:

I never showed any dissatisfaction. I didn't agree with her suggestion, that is all.

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
Anyhow. Not sure why we'are all aruging about this, but one thing I'm more concerned is why you are attacking Akira for this.

I never attacked her. I doubted her competence as Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ), which should also include the promotion of RPing , because she suggested something that would have a negative result on the overall RPing.

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I bet the majority of the people do not use them.

The majority of the people don't have Warhammers, Angel Shields or RC. Shal we remove that too?

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Btw,

TAXES?!

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Btw, suggesting a possible solution, regardless if it's good or bad, helpful or not helpful at all, just because it does not promote RP features or w/e, doesn't necessarily mean a person has none or poor RPing skills.

Did I stated so? No. Then why shout out this humbug?

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
She tried to help; at least she suggested something.

Yeah. I tried to help too, and said that it might not be such a good suggestion.

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
What does her rping ability/how she was chosen as dictatress have to do with forts on main island?

Nothing, did I say it did?

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Originally Posted by TeRRi2k
Maybe somehow you can think of a connection relating to her rp ability etc., but think of a direct, -relevant- relation and we'll be convinced.

It seems to me you already made that link when you thought I made that statement about her poor RPing skills for me.

Splke 11-10-2004 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
I never showed any dissatisfaction. I didn't agree with her suggestion, that is all.

Take care and actually READ this Huru


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Originally Posted by GoZelda
I never attacked her. I doubted her competence as Dictatress of the Zormite Republic (:rolleyes: ), which should also include the promotion of RPing , because she suggested something that would have a negative result on the overall RPing.

Doubt and an opinion, something everybody is entitled to despite it's conflicts with you or your friends.

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
The majority of the people don't have Warhammers, Angel Shields or RC. Shal we remove that too?

Let's not bring items into this.

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
TAXES?!

?

GoZelda 11-10-2004 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Splke
?

In my country btw is used for taxes x_x

xAndrewx 11-10-2004 05:49 PM

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You are so schooled by my signature's links.

O_O

GoZelda 11-10-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
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You are so schooled by my signature's links.

O_O

Spam?

xAndrewx 11-10-2004 07:10 PM

excuse me?

Splke 11-10-2004 07:42 PM

Your posts are irrelevent to the topic or discussion at hand, spam.

xAndrewx 11-10-2004 08:17 PM

The last 2 pages havn't been relivent to the topic...

Crono 11-10-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
The last 2 pages havn't been relivent to the topic...

Because it's filled with GoZelda owning 5000 people after bashing one person.

I agree with everything GoZelda said, bring it on.

Splke 11-11-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx
The last 2 pages havn't been relivent to the topic...

They've been relevent, since they've kept within the boundaries of GoZelda putting down Akira for her "rp related" suggestion, and it's "concern" for RP enviroment, which he inquisitively questioned. :]

busyrobot 11-11-2004 07:43 PM

First of all, Cyrin, you didn't like Aki's suggestion about fixing fortifications and instead of arguing even one example of why you think it would effect RP negatively or just disagreeing with her, you attack her RP skills and declare her (in your infinite wisdom) unfit for leading her kingdom.

Instead of being a hair constructive and mentioning say, why you don't like her suggestion or even just disagreeing you go completely off topic just to attack someone. You are not even in the position to evalute her RP skills, or have anything to do with Zormite, or ever will have anything to do with Zormite.

And you think that writing a little RP profile makes you an authority on RPing? Get over yourself and try having fun in this game or something, don't just bash people because they suggest an idea you don't like. If you don't like Aki's RPing that's fine, and if you are ever judging an RP event maybe it'll come up.

I could defend Aki's RP skills but that is not even the topic. This isn't even the topic. The topic was about forts, until Cyrin had to post and drag it completely off.

If you stopped to think for two seconds you would not have made yourself look like such a twit. You said something dumb, okay, move on. Defending your less intelligent comments doesn't make you look any smarter.


You know full well if you had posted a solution and I added a post to the effect of 'Cyrin you can't even rp, so shut up' you'd be hopping around having a little tizzy. So stop playing 'All I said was...' and say something useful about forts already.

GoZelda 11-11-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
instead of arguing even one example of why you think it would effect RP negatively or just disagreeing with her

Give me one reason why I should.

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Originally Posted by busyrobot
you attack her RP skills

I did not.

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declare her (in your infinite wisdom) unfit for leading her kingdom.

I didn't declare her unfit for leading her kingdom. I thought English was your first language?

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Instead of being a hair constructive

Must I?

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you go completely off topic just to attack someone.

I didn't go completely off-topic neither did I attack anyone. Seems more like you are the one attacking someone.

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You are not even in the position to evalute her RP skills

How so?

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or have anything to do with Zormite, or ever will have anything to do with Zormite.

Zormite is a kingdom of Graal Kingdoms. I play Graal Kingdoms. So I do have to do with Zormite. But if I am not allowed to do anything with Zormite, I will exclude them from my events.

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And you think that writing a little RP profile makes you an authority on RPing?

When did I mention I did?

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Get over yourself and try having fun in this game or something

If you do so, too.

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don't just bash people because they suggest an idea you don't like.

I did not 'bash' anyone because of an 'idea I don't like'.

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The topic was about forts, until Cyrin had to post and drag it completely off.

Wrong again, you, Hurumi, xAndrewx and the Great Dictatress herself dragged it 'off-topic'. Besides, whatever is off-topic is a matter of opinion. I think this is perfectly on-topic.

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If you stopped to think for two seconds you would not have made yourself look like such a twit.

Who is 'attacking' 'bashing' and 'flaming' now? :rolleyes:

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You said something dumb

Which was?

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Defending your less intelligent comments doesn't make you look any smarter.

Less intelligent then what? Less intelligent then you, perhaps? Don't make me laugh.

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you'd be hopping around having a little tizzy.

But now you could! And you are, too!

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So stop playing 'All I said was...'

I am not playing 'All I said was...'. You just lack the comprehension of very simple English.

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and say something useful about forts already.

I don't have to, this isn't the suggestions forum.

Splke 11-11-2004 10:03 PM

Satrek would be sad. Forts...

Crono 11-11-2004 10:59 PM

Yo Argo, if this goes out of hand let's help GoZelda out. It's our job as the Pluffy Gang to do so.

It's not like Graal2002 staff read the suggestions forum, all the good ideas here are just dusted off.

Lance 11-11-2004 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
It's not like Graal2002 staff read the suggestions forum, all the good ideas here are just dusted off.

Yo.

-

Fewer silly RP-ability arguments would be nice.

That said, I do not think forbidding all fortifications from being placed on main island is a viable solution. Removing all valid uses of an object just because there exists an invalid use is not the way to go. Stefan needs to know about this problem, and then we can work on a solution.

Crono 11-11-2004 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance
Yo.

long time man :cool:

Forts should be enabled/disabled in certain levels and some coordinate ranges should just be auto-no's.


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