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GoZelda 09-11-2004 09:15 PM

Do you agree with me
 
that Graal Classic is the best server around? ^^

Crono 09-11-2004 09:15 PM

It's one of the worst.

Levels are crap, quests are boring, npcs are decent, graphics suck, gameplay sucks, and the server is full of "oldbies" with huge egos.

Gambet 09-11-2004 09:17 PM

The best server around, i think, of course this is just my own opinion, is GK.

Scott 09-11-2004 09:18 PM

No server on Graal has ever been "Good." :[

Thallen 09-11-2004 09:24 PM

No. Every server on Graal is horrible anymore. None will ever be good until they are ran by people who can present themself as 'professionals'. 90% of Graal staff is corrupt. If you don't like what I say, close your eyes and don't read it, don't be afraid of the truth.

Scott 09-11-2004 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
If you don't like what I say, close your eyes and don't read it, don't be afraid of the truth.

Sure thing Moulder.

Okilian 09-11-2004 09:46 PM

this question is based only on your own opinion...so what's the point. It's just going to lead to flaming

GoZelda 09-11-2004 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet
The best server around, i think, of course this is just my own opinion, is GK.

Nah, GK has no quests and is unbalanced =(

Monkeyboy_McGee 09-11-2004 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott
Sure thing Moulder.

HAHAHA ***** scott, that was good XD


Anyway, yeah, there are no decent servers around right now. Except maybe zenkou, but its still in earrrrrly development so there's no way of telling how it will turn out :frown:

Crono 09-11-2004 10:26 PM

end of ages is dead sexy hot.

Malinko 09-11-2004 10:26 PM

Graal Classic is the best place with quests, you have to give it that. They do not improve their levels because they want to keep the old classic level feeling? All in all, it's pretty good.

GoZelda 09-11-2004 10:34 PM

Yeah. I mean, Graal Classic sucks, but it is GRAAL CLASSIC.

Malinko 09-11-2004 10:37 PM

It's more of...it doesn't suck...but it's one of the good idea of the original servers. Every other server doesn't really have a story line of something that keeps you occupied that long.

osrs 09-11-2004 11:01 PM

I like the server, it's pretty fun but i don't think it is the best, the bests in my opinion are Graal Kingdoms, Graal2001 and Oasis (even under construction).

Polo 09-11-2004 11:01 PM

I'll say it's the best, but my opinion is blatantly biased... although there is the whole restructuring/recreation for NPC server going on, and so if you don't like the server, don't feel afraid to tell me how to make it better! :)


Addition: It's the best for Adventure style play, but if you won't Role Play, I cannot disagree that there are better servers...

DarkShadows_Legend 09-11-2004 11:14 PM

On the classic list it certainly is by far the best playerworld in almost every category.

Spark910 09-12-2004 12:37 AM

Quest wise, I belive so.

Milkdude99 09-12-2004 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
No. Every server on Graal is horrible anymore. None will ever be good until they are ran by people who can present themself as 'professionals'. 90% of Graal staff is corrupt. If you don't like what I say, close your eyes and don't read it, don't be afraid of the truth.

Content wise most of the Graal Servers are better than 5 years ago but Staff wise I agree it is an issue. But look at it this way , how can you get "Professional acting " Staff on a non-paid Staff? There are some who are devoted to the game and the correct way to run it but normally are overshadowed by the majority who do not share the same ideals. Moonie and I ran Npulse without corrurption by running it strictly to the Graal rules but all that did was alienate us and make it hard to find Staff because they didn't get the "perks" they could get from other servers.

I have noticed over the last 5 years there are those who screamed we were too hard with the rules are now wishing there were more servers that did follow more closely to the Graal rules. It does make for more enjoyable playing. ;)

Scott 09-12-2004 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99
But I have noticed over the last 5 years there are those who screamed we were too hard with the rules are now wishing there were more servers that did follow more closely to the Graal rules. It does make for more enjoyable playing. ;)

Corrupt staff are more fun, even as a player. I enjoyed seeing Chris on 2k1 go into dragon form and create havoc in the market.

Milkdude99 09-12-2004 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott
Corrupt staff are more fun, even as a player. I enjoyed seeing Chris on 2k1 go into dragon form and create havoc in the market.

That is because you have a childish unprofessional attitude toward the game. :rolleyes:

brock128 09-12-2004 01:50 AM

First things first, anybody who says 2k2 is the best server should be casterated.

Second things second, yes it is. Sure, it's not anymore, but that's because, *MAYBE*, nobody goes there anymore because they're too busy playing the evercrack clone?

Third things last, if Stefan and Unix didn't make 2k1, Graal would have been so much better. If they didn't make 2k2, Graal would have been so much better.

The fact is, Graal is a game based heavily on the community, and it seems like the high staff are doing everything to ruin the community. W.T.G.

Googi 09-12-2004 03:47 AM

Does Graal Classic have bomies?

Galdor 09-12-2004 04:22 AM

classic rocks xD

TSonicWarp9 09-12-2004 04:50 AM

None of the servers today are any good. Everyone strives for graphical look more then anything. This brings a problem with slower machine users on Graal. Such as me for instance. I have to disable Direct X controls on Graal because my computer only puts out 450mhz of speed and only 8mbs of video frames. My ram is 256, so that isn't my problem.

Until the Graal program can be built with a better code layout, then it's not going to be popular. People have developed Graal clones that run faster and smoother on slower machines as if using Graal with 2ghz. One for example would be the Ancients RPG game. I forgot the whole name of it though, and I believe LiquidIce was developing that game.

In order to make Graal run better on slower machines, the program needs to be split into different exes.

Graal 2D and Graal3 D need to be different programs, not bundled together making one large heavy program. As for RemoteControl, that one is already good enough, it's orginized well, but could be improved.

There is a way to make the Effects that require Direct X to run with less memory usage. Go look for it.

The smaller the program, the better it loads and the better it preforms.

Splke 09-12-2004 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99
That is because you have a childish unprofessional attitude toward the game. :rolleyes:

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Skyerus 09-12-2004 05:43 AM

I agree with Malinko, it's has the best quests.

Scott 09-12-2004 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99
childish [..]attitude toward the game.

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99
attitude toward the game.

Good one, chief.
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Originally Posted by Milkdude99
unprofessional attitude toward the game.

Right. Graal is an oh-so professional game and atmosphere. I mean really, all major games nowa' days start off with stealing graphics from vintage Nintendo classics.

How silly of me.

If I want to play a game, I want to have fun. I don't want to be confined to rules created by a few select people who are ignorant of pleasure.

Milkdude99 09-12-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott
Good one, chief.

You have a warped sense of fun when you derive pleasure from corrupt ways of running the Game, which amounts to nothing more that "you can only enjoy the game as long as you are cheating the Game." It appears unless you have some unfair advantage over normal players you can't enjoy the game for what it is. What is it you don't feel you can play equally on the game with the rest of the players? Do you have some inferior complex, than makes you want to cheat just to be equal?
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Loriel 09-12-2004 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonicWarp9
None of the servers today are any good.

There are a lot of Graalians that beg to differ.
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Everyone strives for graphical look more then anything.
Those classic servers do not look as if this was the case.
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This brings a problem with slower machine users on Graal. Such as me for instance. I have to disable Direct X controls on Graal because my computer only puts out 450mhz of speed and only 8mbs of video frames. My ram is 256, so that isn't my problem.
I think Stefan is using a computer with about those stats for G3d? Anyway, get a better video card, or stick to those servers with more conservative looking servers.
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Until the Graal program can be built with a better code layout,
Not that I am any more educated than you are, but I seriously believe you have no clue what you are talking about there.
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then it's not going to be popular.
As it already is, there must be some logical error in your post.
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People have developed Graal clones that run faster and smoother on slower machines as if using Graal with 2ghz.
None of which has yet managed to get as popular as Graal. I wonder why.
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One for example would be the Ancients RPG game. I forgot the whole name of it though, and I believe LiquidIce was developing that game.
Which may not be discussed here, even though it is dead, so please refrain from mentioning it again.
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In order to make Graal run better on slower machines, the program needs to be split into different exes.
Speed is not direcly coupled with memory usage, therefore this makes no sense.
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Graal 2D and Graal3 D need to be different programs, not bundled together making one large heavy program.
Unbundled, they would be two heavy programs, which are more difficult to maintain and advance; porting changes to the common engine back and forth between exes. Also, I doubt there would be any performance improvement at all.
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As for RemoteControl, that one is already good enough, it's orginized well,
And I really hope it stays that way.
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but could be improved.
How?
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There is a way to make the Effects that require Direct X to run with less memory usage. Go look for it.
You mean, like a secret undocumented command line option or magical configuration file that will solve all your problems?
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The smaller the program, the better it loads and the better it preforms.
That is not neccessarily the case.

Fry2 09-12-2004 08:10 PM

As Spark said, the quests on Classic are IMO the best, however, the levels do suck (still IMO) even though they once didn't when Classic was the main server.

Neoreno 09-12-2004 08:40 PM

No Googi, they don't have bomies, but I believe they were the first place in which bomies appeared. Hm, don't quote me on that though.


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