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AngelDevoid_3-7 08-26-2004 01:52 AM

Please read and cast an opinion
 
I had to leave GK 5 months ago for personal reasons that could not be helped and upon returning all i requested was that my rank of Ethereal Knight be resotored note that this rank has no power/rights except for H and that it has been a part of a solid rp for the past few years its just the title of my character describing who i am and would very much like to keep this ....please read the coversation at

[url]no posting personal histories or links to personal histories, sorry

Zero Hour 08-26-2004 02:10 AM

Not to rain on your parade - but you're not allowed to post conversation histories, perhaps you should remove it before the po-po get on your case. You're Tecsumeh, yes?

AngelDevoid_3-7 08-26-2004 02:14 AM

IM Tecumeseh NO!!!! hes is an IRL friend who plays EQ now and that my friend is just a simple text file

Thallen 08-26-2004 02:22 AM

You can get nothing through Ana's head. She is stubborn. She thinks of herself, and only herself. I apparently made her 'quit Graal' for retaliating from a comment about why I should be removed from Dustari with a comment on how she sucks at roleplaying, and will be only respected as a 'princess' on tag and nowhere else. Emo?!

busyrobot 08-26-2004 02:39 AM

First, the less pressing business: Thallen you are an idiot. Add something useful or if you think slamming ana is the best you can do, then let all your other posts slamming ana stand and just find something new to talk about.



About the ranks:

Before I stepped down we did a tag wipe to clean the list and setup a simple policy where you can become a member with 3 in dustari references, assuming you didn't have a bad history with the kingdom.

Regarding ranks, you have to earn them. I understand how you feel Gau but I think you should give ana a chance here. When that rank was given to you before, you were quite active. I know what you went through and why you were away, I am not trivializing that.

I do think though, that if you want to try to convince ana to remake the Ethereal Knight rank for you, instead of going to the forums like this and trying to get people against her during her first week as Queen (personal note: thanks man :\ ) you could have considered playing a different RP character (same acct) and build up her confidence in you and earn a chance to persade her to restore that rank for you.


I think everyone that shows up out of the blue for any reason wanting a special rank should take the time to demonstrate why they should get it. If it was as simple as 'its only an rp rank' I can tell you that lots of people (not the best RPers either) would want everything from 'undead ghoul' to 'vampire knight' or whatever else. RP ranks are as important to earn as administrative or military ranks.

You earned it at one time but you don't go about it this way to earn it again. It doesn't do anything good for the kingdom.

Note: Even if you can post histories outside of graal, it is the same as posting them here in the forums EULA wise if you post links to histories, from here for the purpose of a thread.

darkemporor 08-26-2004 02:47 AM

My opinion is, this is the worst possible way to go about getting something you feel you deserve. You're alienating your own Queen while requesting an RP rank that directly effects her. I already told you in advance what you were asking was unreasonable.

Wren

AngelDevoid_3-7 08-26-2004 02:57 AM

first off this thread was never ment to bash ana (( idiots)) secondly this was in no way a lashing out at ana i just wanted others opinions about the matter becuse i felt its my kingdom ill do what i want wasnt a good enough reason especially seince the reason i left was out of my hands...

AngelDevoid_3-7 08-26-2004 03:00 AM

fegot to add... even though we had our altercations... im still the guardian of dustari .... if you want to bash ana you have to go through me.... thats the way it was with zoe and padren and that was the way it was with Tseng untill he stuck that dagger of his into my back

i probably should have been more clear on the purpose of this...

foxyrain 08-26-2004 03:03 AM

Ok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelDevoid_3-7
first off this thread was never ment to bash ana (( idiots)) secondly this was in no way a lashing out at ana i just wanted others opinions about the matter becuse i felt its my kingdom ill do what i want wasnt a good enough reason especially seince the reason i left was out of my hands...

Quite understood, as I hope you understand our sentiments. Prove yourself once again and present your RP to the Queen.

I believe we have all said quite enough now, so let's let this one rest people.

Zoe Sagesun

Thallen 08-26-2004 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
First, the less pressing business: Thallen you are an idiot. Add something useful or if you think slamming ana is the best you can do, then let all your other posts slamming ana stand and just find something new to talk about.



About the ranks:

Before I stepped down we did a tag wipe to clean the list and setup a simple policy where you can become a member with 3 in dustari references, assuming you didn't have a bad history with the kingdom.

Regarding ranks, you have to earn them. I understand how you feel Gau but I think you should give ana a chance here. When that rank was given to you before, you were quite active. I know what you went through and why you were away, I am not trivializing that.

I do think though, that if you want to try to convince ana to remake the Ethereal Knight rank for you, instead of going to the forums like this and trying to get people against her during her first week as Queen (personal note: thanks man :\ ) you could have considered playing a different RP character (same acct) and build up her confidence in you and earn a chance to persade her to restore that rank for you.


I think everyone that shows up out of the blue for any reason wanting a special rank should take the time to demonstrate why they should get it. If it was as simple as 'its only an rp rank' I can tell you that lots of people (not the best RPers either) would want everything from 'undead ghoul' to 'vampire knight' or whatever else. RP ranks are as important to earn as administrative or military ranks.

You earned it at one time but you don't go about it this way to earn it again. It doesn't do anything good for the kingdom.

Note: Even if you can post histories outside of graal, it is the same as posting them here in the forums EULA wise if you post links to histories, from here for the purpose of a thread.

Yeah, yeah, I expected stupid replies like this about the comment, oh well, I said it. What is not to understand about what I said? Ana thrives on getting people on her side, it's stupid. Her little drama shows pop up every now and then. Just don't reply if you don't like what I say, what you said maybe no sense anyway.

darkemporor 08-26-2004 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
.........Just don't reply if you don't like what I say, what you said maybe no sense anyway.

Hunh? That actually made no sense.

Wren

Splke 08-26-2004 04:51 AM

Just.. don't.. reply to his posts, if you do not like what he has said.

What you said made no sense anyways.

(owned)

Lol
@
Thread

Gau, why'd you even leave?

GoZelda 08-26-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
First, the less pressing business: Thallen you are an idiot.

Add something useful instead of just slamming Thallen plz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
slamming ana

Names start with a capital, yo. And please don't talk in slang, I thought you meant Wrestling first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
I think everyone that shows up out of the blue for any reason wanting a special rank should take the time to demonstrate why they should get it.

He had it before seems like a good reason to get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by busyrobot
It doesn't do anything good for the kingdom.

Neither does deleting all the members without any IC reason or explaination.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkemporor
My opinion is, this is the worst possible way to go about getting something you feel you deserve. You're alienating your own Queen while requesting an RP rank that directly effects her. I already told you in advance what you were asking was unreasonable.

Finaly someone made sense. Except that he didn't turn hostile against Ana.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkemporor
Hunh? That actually made no sense.

It does to those people who set away their arrogance and recognise other's mistakes as their own, made similiar or previously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpIke
Just.. don't.. reply to his posts, if you do not like what he has said.

People like him. Look a bit further then what's written, look to what the writer wanted to say.

Dehitay 08-26-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoZelda
Neither does deleting all the members without any IC reason or explaination.

I have to agree with Cyrin on this point
I have seen leader after leader tag wipe their kingdom/guild/gang
To me, it is the laziest possible way to get rid of inactive members
Why do you have to go take it out on people that actually do play on tag?
Have you ever been one of those people who has done a lot to contribute and then have your leader decide that he's just gonna tag wipe to "help" things?
If you want to get rid of the inactive people, TARGET THEM, not everybody
If you wanted to redo the rank structure, removing people is not necessary
If you just wanted to start all over, then it was completely selfish to put what you want over the well being of the kingdom

Crono 08-26-2004 07:57 PM

After reading the first several posts, I am for the first time LOST AND CONFUSED.

Someone hit me with a "s.t.f.u hammer"

Thallen 08-27-2004 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkemporor
Hunh? That actually made no sense.

Wren

LoL u r da grammer master

AngelDevoid_3-7 08-28-2004 09:27 AM

Splke the reason i had to leave was becuse my father had passed away and i had to move to another home.... an seince the acct was expired anyways i had to save money for a car to keep my job and fix some things in the house then when i had the extra money to return i did

REW_darklink200 08-28-2004 09:47 AM

I may not be in Dustari anymore, but I do agree with Padren. Try to have Ana recreate it if she wants to and try to work your way back up to it. That would be the fair way to do it.

GryffonDurime 08-28-2004 04:25 PM

Also, I'd like to point out that even in the past, even with great kings, Tag Wipes have been standard procedure. It's simply the fact that we haven't had one for a while. It's an established process, and as for an IC Reason, this is A GAME. Parts will, by necessity, be done OOC to ensure the best possible status of the IC Kingdom.

Dehitay 08-29-2004 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime
Also, I'd like to point out that even in the past, even with great kings, Tag Wipes have been standard procedure. It's simply the fact that we haven't had one for a while. It's an established process, and as for an IC Reason, this is A GAME. Parts will, by necessity, be done OOC to ensure the best possible status of the IC Kingdom.

standard procedure or not, it's not necessary
and it's annoying to practically everybody but the leader
give me one reason for a tag wipe that couldn't be solved easily in another fashion?
.....well, besides being some jerk who wants to take revenge against a leader

skyler87 08-30-2004 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
You can get nothing through Ana's head. She is stubborn. She thinks of herself, and only herself.

I'm disappointed in you, you incorrectly labled someone with characteristics that completely dominate your personality. You should know better :(
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
I apparently made her 'quit Graal'

You only wish you were that significant. It was a combination of you and about 50 other worthless parasites that have no social/emotional lives outside of Graal Kingdoms and spend all the hours of their days trying to make use of themselves by annoying other people. I do not understand you type of people, is it that you think you are actually doing something other than wasting your life when you can make people feel bad?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
Emo?!

"Emo" is a type of music? EMO?!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
Just don't reply if you don't like what I say,

Uh, no, that's just too bad
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
LoL u r da grammer master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
Just don't reply if you don't like what I say, what you said maybe no sense anyway.


Splke 08-31-2004 05:56 AM

Hey now.. let's not start a flame-war.. :cooks up some popcorn..: anybody want?

edit:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelDevoid_3-7
Splke the reason i had to leave was becuse my father had passed away and i had to move to another home.... an seince the acct was expired anyways i had to save money for a car to keep my job and fix some things in the house then when i had the extra money to return i did

o_o;; So sorry, losing a parent is something I can only sympathize through divorce.. I'm not sure what I would do if I lost one.

Were you close to your father? =x

god im so off-topic

GoZelda 08-31-2004 12:17 PM

/cast opinion


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