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WanDaMan 03-22-2004 09:39 PM

what?
 
markb and galdor are mods here?

Spark910 03-22-2004 09:44 PM

New GGT members...?

WanDaMan 03-22-2004 09:47 PM

nice I guess?
who are the other members? shouldn't they be mods to?

Galdor 03-22-2004 09:47 PM

im mod 2

Spark910 03-22-2004 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Galdor
im mod 2
You know why?

WanDaMan 03-22-2004 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Galdor
im mod 2
congrats?

Galdor 03-22-2004 09:53 PM

I think it was coz i was going to help out with some graphics on pws.

WanDaMan 03-22-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Galdor
I think it was coz i was going to help out with some graphics on pws.
I help servers with levels and i'm not a mod!
(I don't care anyways)

What about MB?

Galdor 03-22-2004 09:57 PM

same as me i guess. im not sure realy X_x

osrs 03-22-2004 10:17 PM

Quote:

*MarkB: lol@me moding gfx forums
*MarkB: i didnt even know that
*MarkB: kewl
*MarkB: <3
lol

MarkB 03-22-2004 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by osrs


lol

Yea, Stefan and myself were talking about GFX for servers and what not a while back. I guess it what just a matter of time before I was added.

On this level, does anyone need help with GFX? I can help you with learning how to make them and what not. :]

osrs 03-22-2004 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkB


Yea, Stefan and myself were talking about GFX for servers and what not a while back. I guess it what just a matter of time before I was added.

On this level, does anyone need help with GFX? I can help you with learning how to make them and what not. :]

I'm interested. :)

Crono 03-22-2004 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkB

On this level, does anyone need help with GFX? I can help you with learning how to make them and what not. :]

-raises his hand :)-

MarkB 03-22-2004 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gerami


-raises his hand :)-

I will do it later tonight. fl1ppedforsure is my aim. do aim me about 7 EST.

Loriel 03-22-2004 11:07 PM

You could start by fixing the gfx in your signature :cool:

--Chris-- 03-22-2004 11:12 PM

No wonder I was under the impression Zen knew nothing about this :) Furthermore I believe Galdor is a bad choice for a moderator. Zen is quite active on the forums, just recently he immediately moved a thread from the gfx forums to the thrashcan. Another mod isn't even neccessary...period.

Galdor 03-22-2004 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
No wonder I was under the impression Zen knew nothing about this :) Furthermore I believe Galdor is a bad choice for a moderator. Zen is quite active on the forums, just recently he immediately moved a thread from the gfx forums to the thrashcan. Another mod isn't even neccessary...period.
why im so bad?

Tyrial 03-22-2004 11:17 PM

*shrugs*

Mark, i was there when we discussed, like two+ years i've been trying to get in the GGT, me you and stefan were discussing making gfx for PWs, while i was auctailly doing it.

I'm both active and helpfull + good graphics artist.

Who is galdor?


Such waste of time trying to join.

O well i guess it's not fair and isn't gonna be.

Take this as whineing, as you would whine if you would of try 2 years to join a team, and the reasons you didn't get to join are ****TY reasons if reasons at all.

Galdor 03-22-2004 11:18 PM

Im Galdor? X_x

MarkB 03-22-2004 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Galdor
Im Galdor? X_x
Don't let them degrade you, Galdor.

Tyrial 03-22-2004 11:22 PM

No offence mark or Galdor, i'm not against you two.. gratz on the job.. i'm just pissed off with Zen for various reasons.

Goboom 03-22-2004 11:34 PM

I am extremley confuzed on this matter. I believe that there are many more qualified people for this job. I do not see a reason for these two to be mods, I hardley ever see them in this forum. Galdor was asking to see more images in the awards thread, I didn't even know he could draw. This just dosen't make sence to me. I can name a few people off the top of my head that have made numerous contrabutions to Graal and are very acomplished graphic artists, but for reasons of my own I will choose not to at this time.

I am not bashing either of you in either way, just voicing my opinion.
Congrats to both of you on the job though.

Tyrial 03-22-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goboom
I am extremley confuzed on this matter. I believe that there are many more qualified people for this job. I do not see a reason for these two to be mods, I hardley ever see them in this forum. Galdor was asking to see more images in the awards thread, I didn't even know he could draw. This just dosen't make sence to me. I can name a few people off the top of my head that have made numerous contrabutions to Graal and are very acomplished graphic artists, but for reasons of my own I will choose not to at this time.

I am not bashing either of you in either way, just voicing my opinion.
Congrats to both of you on the job though.

Like me, worked for GK about a year doing graphics, events and translations, doing my own playerworld to support graal, i made alot of tutorials and stuff to graal people and i made gfx for other people and answering questions + helpign them out...

Galdor 03-22-2004 11:38 PM

I do know how to draw.
I made the classic snow tiles for exempel.
and i also posted some of my work @ the gfx awards thread. I dont have so many graphics to show coz most of them got deleted when i reinstalled my pc. sorry.

--Chris-- 03-22-2004 11:41 PM

*High fives Goboom*
Furthermore if I recall correctly Galdor was fired from his graphic position on Graal: The Adventure, didn't do anything (atleast from what I'm aware of) while he had it moderation wise. Also is really annoying ^-^ A moderation job shouldn't have to do much with how talened you are. I mean..he hardly even seems literate.

Tyrial I don't think Zen's reasoning is unjust, biased and alike but just the situation with Oasis is potentially enough to stop you from joining X_x More members aren't really neccessary either.

Edit: Ok, so Galdor actually did do something. *Edits post*

Galdor 03-22-2004 11:44 PM

hehe... no i was not fired i quited. And i didnt do anything coz there was nothing to do =P
we had (and still have) to finish the npc server.

MarkB 03-22-2004 11:45 PM

-Edit- I reopened after rereading posts, lol.

Monkeyboy_McGee 03-22-2004 11:50 PM

Oyay, maybe markb will delete my posts here because he doesn't like me, just like pirates forum! :eek:

Yeah this confuses me too. I suck a fat one at graphics, to be honest, but wtfs, even i'm more active on the forums showing my work and trying to improve, and giving opinions and hints where i can, than these two...
Plus like, wtfs, why the hell do we need 3 mods for the gfx forum? I think that considering the amount of posts here, it's the most peaceful forum and there are hardly ever any flamewars or deviation from the rules and such...Zen is active enough, active enough for these forums at any rate. 3 of them is just silly.
Plus like, wtfs, yeah surely there are people that deserve the job more...i've seen completely awesome graphic work from people on these forums, and all i've ever seen from Galdor is this: *
and all i've ever seen from markb is like, some simple event shield for GK and his little pirate avatar. I'm not saying they suck, because for all i know they could have vast banks of leeto graphics that've never seen the light of day, but what i am saying is that surely other people have proved themselves more worthy of the job? o_o

*yes, the empty space is intentional ;)

MarkB 03-22-2004 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
Oyay, maybe markb will delete my posts here because he doesn't like me, just like pirates forum! :eek:

Yeah this confuses me too. I suck a fat one at graphics, to be honest, but wtfs, even i'm more active on the forums showing my work and trying to improve, and giving opinions and hints where i can, than these two...
Plus like, wtfs, why the hell do we need 3 mods for the gfx forum? I think that considering the amount of posts here, it's the most peaceful forum and there are hardly ever any flamewars or deviation from the rules and such...Zen is active enough, active enough for these forums at any rate. 3 of them is just silly.
Plus like, wtfs, yeah surely there are people that deserve the job more...i've seen completely awesome graphic work from people on these forums, and all i've ever seen from Galdor is this: *
and all i've ever seen from markb is like, some simple event shield for GK and his little pirate avatar. I'm not saying they suck, because for all i know they could have vast banks of leeto graphics that've never seen the light of day, but what i am saying is that surely other people have proved themselves more worthy of the job? o_o

*yes, the empty space is intentional ;)

You're ignorant to a lot of details.

Facts are facts. I'm not going to ramble on about why I should by mod of GFX forums, etc, because either way, people like this fool are going to *****. It is human nature.

-And for the record, I didn't delete any of your pirate posts, so think before you stay stupid things.-

Monkeyboy_McGee 03-23-2004 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkB

-And for the record, I didn't delete any of your pirate posts, so think before you stay stupid things.-

ohsure, it was the ghost of graal's christmas past. Either that or it was valder, in which case it will have been for the same reason; he doesn't like me. My posts were no less law-abiding than plenty of other ones there, which is why i laughed when they got deleted. And ohboy, it's fun how i avoided any kind of flaming about this mod business but recieved some anyway $

ps. omfg, pressing quote instead of edit is annoying o_o

teshy2 03-23-2004 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
*High fives Goboom*
Furthermore if I recall correctly Galdor was fired from his graphic position on Graal: The Adventure, didn't do anything (atleast from what I'm aware of) while he had it moderation wise. Also is really annoying ^-^ A moderation job shouldn't have to do much with how talened you are. I mean..he hardly even seems literate.

As you should know if you've read his location, Galdor is from Sweden, a non-english speaking country. He wasn't born with english, he had to learn it, and we all learn at a different level. He still make his point well understood.

Also, you say that he is annoying? Why? Explain please.

Were you in the Gfx team on The Adventure at the time Galdor was a member of it? I remember clearly how Galdor used to
complain to me how there was nothing to do. That, in addition that he was hired by another playerworld, was why he chose to quit. He was never fired.

Besides, you are all forgetting that Galdor did never ask for moderation status. He didn't choose it, and now you are bashing him? Shame, shame on you~

MarkB 03-23-2004 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by teshy2


As you should know if you've read his location, Galdor is from Sweden, a non-english speaking country. He wasn't born with english, he had to learn it, and we all learn at a different level. He still make his point well understood.

Also, you say that he is annoying? Why? Explain please.

Were you in the Gfx team on The Adventure at the time Galdor was a member of it? I remember clearly how Galdor used to
complain to me how there was nothing to do. That, in addition that he was hired by another playerworld, was why he chose to quit. He was never fired.

Besides, you are all forgetting that Galdor did never ask for moderation status. He didn't choose it, and now you are bashing him? Shame, shame on you~

*Gives 5 for rating*

ZER0_H0UR 03-23-2004 01:43 AM

*raises hand*

Destorm 03-23-2004 01:47 AM

most of the people who are complaining about the moderating decision can't excactly do gfx themselves and have any real insight into graphics... you are all gfx ****ies now leave the moderators to it, babies.

Goboom 03-23-2004 01:56 AM

Like who!?

--Chris-- 03-23-2004 04:21 AM

"As you should know if you've read his location, Galdor is from Sweden, a non-english speaking country. He wasn't born with english, he had to learn it, and we all learn at a different level. He still make his point well understood." - teshy2

Oh please, this job is about moderation and knowing the language is essential. People can indirectly insult others, use words outside of his vocabulary negatively, etc and he won't be able to do a thing because he isn't capable of even interpreting it.
As you should know this forum's major language is english. Improper use and poor understanding of it is unprofessional and should be unacceptable from moderators.

"Also, you say that he is annoying? Why? Explain please." - Teshy2

Constant harrassment on player and messengers. This includes name calling, constantly wanting to argue about things I don't even care nor know about, messenging me on other s/ns after being blocked, pesters me to try and get into the GGT after being told they aren't hiring at the time and much much more.

"Were you in the Gfx team on The Adventure at the time Galdor was a member of it?" - tesh2

How is that really significant to anything? Also note I'm GGT. Here's a better question. Is Galder even aware of a moderator's duties? He hasn't really been the most active forum member ;) Say! Neither have you? What is this; rescue 911?

"I remember clearly how Galdor used to
complain to me how there was nothing to do. That, in addition that he was hired by another playerworld, was why he chose to quit. He was never fired."
- teshy2

Ah, he was telling me he didn't work there anymore in a manner which implied he got fired while I was questioning a couple of things about illegal graphics seen there. I guess "he still make his point well understood" ;)

Of course there is nothing much to do (I mean it's "Graal: The Adventure" lol there hasn't been a major update there in ages, especially a graphical one.) No output = bad output. If there's nothing to do it results in him likely doing nothing so what determines what he's capable of? When I had nothing to do on 2k1 I made something to do. Isn't really very ambitious eh? Not saying he stinks or anything..I've never really seen anything he has done myself and from what I have heard from other members in this thread they aren't all that great so :x

"Besides, you are all forgetting that Galdor did never ask for moderation status. He didn't choose it, and now you are bashing him? Shame, shame on you~"

How amusing. It's obvious a friend of his (seemingly MarkB,) influenced the decision of Stefan or whoever, he _must_ be willing otherwise he wouldn't have the job in the first place - unless of course the supermod or so is too incompetent to find out exactly who he is, if he wants the position, etc (certainly this isn't t he case =D) and I can go on with many other ways to prove that statement of yours foolish but I won't. Bashing? No, it's only the truth.

Did I mention there are more suitable people and a moderator other than Zen isn't even neccessary? Man, if I were Zen I'd be pissed off considering this is major disrespect towards him (especially if uninformed about it.)

teshy2 03-23-2004 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by --Chris--
How amusing. It's obvious a friend of his (seemingly MarkB,) influenced the decision of Stefan or whoever, he _must_ be willing otherwise he wouldn't have the job in the first place - unless of course the supermod or so is too incompetent to find out exactly who he is, if he wants the position, etc (certainly this isn't t he case =D) and I can go on with many other ways to prove that statement of yours foolish but I won't. Bashing? No, it's only the truth.
You reason in a logical way, but unfortanetly, you are wrong. From what I've understood, Stefan asked Galdor to help out on graphics for playerworlds, he was never aware of any moderator position. He discovered this today, and was as surprised as anyone else on this forum.
That is, of course, unless he would lie to one of his best friends (me) right in the face.

On a side note, I suggest you do not let pride lead your life. ^__^;

Scott 03-23-2004 05:25 AM

Wha the ****? Rofl. I didn't even know MarkB made graphics. About Galdor, perhaps there should be an IQ test before moderators are added...
Ahem, also:
LOL AT THIS
Alarid should be a mod here, because he makes public contributions to this forum. I'm quite disapointed that these two new mods who I barely see in here are added. Guess it depends on how much brown on your nose you have.

--Chris-- 03-23-2004 05:30 AM

"You reason in a logical way, but unfortanetly, you are wrong. From what I've understood, Stefan asked Galdor to help out on graphics for playerworlds, he was never aware of any moderator position. He discovered this today, and was as surprised as anyone else on this forum.
That is, of course, unless he would lie to one of his best friends (me) right in the face."
- teshy2

Unfortunately that seems illogical. Stefan randomly decides to ask him (who like previously proven unsuitable for the job) out of the million and one graphic makers (including developers he sees daily on debug) first hand to undertake such a task suddenly and it's just co-incedance MarkB has gotten the position too? " Stefan asked Galdor to help out on graphics for playerworlds" what does that have to do with this? Why does that also make no sense? Why is going into it feel so uneccessary for me? Why not inform someone that doesn't even browse the forums that they were made a moderator? Better yet, why make them one (especially when there already is an active one?)

Listen - what you stated above really doesn't prove him well fit for the position and that's the point I'm making.

teshy2 03-23-2004 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott
I'm quite disapointed that these two new mods who I barely see in here are added
You don't become a moderator because you have a lot of posts. I can't speak for Markb but I know Galdor check these forums at least once a day, if not more. Alraid is a skilled artist, and that he makes gfx for the community is great, but that doesn't mean he'd do any better than Markb or Galdor at moderating the forum.

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott
Guess it depends on how much brown on your nose you have.
Again, I can't speak for Markb, but Galdor has been here for 3-4 years (probably more), so maybe they just realized how valuable he is to Graal, neh?

This thread overall is pretty pointless. Whoever made Markb and Galdor moderators did it for a reason (hopefully), and what we think is probably not gonna affect that persons choice. End of story, now we can all go home and drink hot choco!~


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