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Brad 02-24-2004 10:52 PM

Machine Guns
 
Please nerf bows for christs sake.

haunter 02-24-2004 11:12 PM

Yeah really... I mean I like owning thing mega fast with my bow... But really, the rate of fire is WAY too high... Also, re-impliment effect arrows... >)

zell12 02-24-2004 11:59 PM

Mabey the explosions should go too, they are not even predictible.

--Chris-- 02-25-2004 02:57 AM

How about just making them unprepare-able?

Kaiser2 02-25-2004 03:02 AM

No way. It's hard enough to hit people even ONCE with a bow. You make them un-preppable or nerf the rate of fire, and you'll never see a bow being used again. And besides that, even less people will worship Aengus...and you know how many people worship him already. -_-

Brad 02-25-2004 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kaiser2
No way. It's hard enough to hit people even ONCE with a bow. You make them un-preppable or nerf the rate of fire, and you'll never see a bow being used again. And besides that, even less people will worship Aengus...and you know how many people worship him already. -_-

As of now anyone with decent wc and a bow can DOMINATE anyone with a melee weapon. That is NOT fair.

Kaiser2 02-25-2004 03:13 AM

Rate of Fire of a may be good, but any person who doesn't stand around and smack you without moving would completely own a guy with a bow. You don't even need to be that fast. Even with like, 2 speed, you can easily dodge arrows. And most people on B mode have like, 3+ speed.

Besides, what good is rate of fire like that if it can't hit anything?

Nappa 02-25-2004 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Kaiser2
Rate of Fire of a may be good, but any person who doesn't stand around and smack you without moving would completely own a guy with a bow. You don't even need to be that fast. Even with like, 2 speed, you can easily dodge arrows. And most people on B mode have like, 3+ speed.

Besides, what good is rate of fire like that if it can't hit anything?

When a bow guy can shoot and run with such powerful arrows at that rate, by the time you catch up to them, you're dead.

haunter 02-25-2004 03:29 AM

Hmm, arent there amulets and shields that reflect arrows?

Brad 02-25-2004 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by Kaiser2
Rate of Fire of a may be good, but any person who doesn't stand around and smack you without moving would completely own a guy with a bow. You don't even need to be that fast. Even with like, 2 speed, you can easily dodge arrows. And most people on B mode have like, 3+ speed.

Besides, what good is rate of fire like that if it can't hit anything?

He runs away from you and clicks on you a million miles an hour. By the time you're lucky enough to get ONE hit youre at 5 hp.

WanDaMan 02-25-2004 09:45 AM

Bows should not be allowed to be prepped nor should have a god.

SlikRick 02-25-2004 10:30 AM

Yea its unfair but when has anything been fair on graal?

Satrek2000 02-25-2004 11:42 AM

There is (reflect missile) but it doesn't work yet. The main problem with bows is that the explosions - and the number of them, mainly - cause some lag which can keep players stuck in the storm, in a manner of speaking. If the explosions were removed/nerfed, it would improve things.

WanDaMan 02-25-2004 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Satrek2000
There is (reflect missile) but it doesn't work yet. The main problem with bows is that the explosions - and the number of them, mainly - cause some lag which can keep players stuck in the storm, in a manner of speaking. If the explosions were removed/nerfed, it would improve things.
When you get his you freeze for a .2 seconds. Now if thats a bile bow or gov bow, your dead in around 5 seconds and 10 arrows.

Khallos_2k2 02-25-2004 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Brad



As of now anyone with decent wc and a bow can DOMINATE anyone with a melee weapon. That is NOT fair.

As of ages ago, anyone with a good wc and a weapon can DOMINATE anyone who uses magic or prayers. Is that fair?

Here again we see again some of the uber players complaining because they aren't completely invincible. Oh dear.
At places like Agincourt, the English longbows could go through even full plate at about 100 yards. Bows aren't too powerful, the damage is realistic. Rate of fire: yes, it's too fast, but bows have got to have something to attract people to use them.
The explosions should go though, they are waaay too laggy.


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