An Old Age Ends, a New Age Begins
 

King Tseng Nightrose, upon being confronted with his own people, abandoned the throne and fled into the night, leaving the Castle to the Dustari people.


I have renounced the Nightrose name and cast it to an Age that has passed, as henceforth the new Age of Dustari dawns.



Put forth, are the charges that led to King Tseng's dismissal as King, and his forced abdication from the Dustari Throne.


First Count of Gross Dereliction:
King Tseng Nightrose, for long lengths of time, hid from the lands of his kingdom, failed to lead, or take any action of leadership therein. He has ignored the pleas of his own people, not to leave, but to come forward and lead the nation. After many promises to the contrary, the King still did not show, for more than but minutes at a time, for rare appearances, numbering very few even in a month's time.

Second Count of Gross Dereliction:
The King, having been given war that our soldiers were fighting for their lives, abandoned his people, in favor of other pursuits.
((he was on rc talking, and active, but choose not to come on tag even once for his people))


Third Count of Gross Dereliction:
For a great many months, all of Dustari and Zormite sought an alliance, while Tseng refused to even address the issue, one way or the other. He would hint he would, but then never cared to follow through, ignoring the questions of many, until he threatened to ally with an old enemy of Dustari, simply to annoy the Zormite Republic.
It was not without great effort, and several months of work and low morale, did we finally convince Tseng to abide, and then by threat of public embarrassment only.



Secondary, he has, on noted record, slandered Dustari publicly, and acted in poor manor.

He has removed rights from those who did nothing against him, in fits of anger, and removed people who felt he was in error.

((he was upset when another person bought a RoS before he in a store, and when the fellow did not want to sell it for reduced value, he removed him and stripped all rights from the kingdom))

Shortly after that time, we all left Dustari, and only returned upon one promise from him alone:

If he ever abandoned Dustari so long again, he would step down beforehand.


This night, we held him to this promise.


As the vast majority of Dustari strongly held that Tseng be removed, we made that so, and he has since been replaced fully.

After Padren had become King, Zoe become Queen

Here is a Screenshot of the Event:

Sadly, I have to agree. Tseng is a great person, but he's just too busy with his other graal projects to really lead Dustari- we all know he does a lot, and does it well, but lately his leadership and activity's slumped. It's the Circle of Dustari, the Cycle of the Phoenix: Birth, Life, Death, Rebirth.

*smiles*

Ah so it has finally happened.

There could be nobody more deserving of the throne than you and Zoe, Padren. I am very happy for both of you. This is great news for GK as a community as well, now that 2 great allied nations have 3 incredible leaders. :)

Padren, so the Nightrose name is banned from use for all, or is it only yourself who must cast it away?

Oh and good luck Zoe and Padren heh.

Re: An Old Age Ends, a New Age Begins
 

The Kingdom of Kurenai Joukai hereby recognizes Padren Talisan as the King of Dustari.
The people of Kurenai Joukai wish to extend a hand of Friendship and wish you very many prosperous years ahead.

*bows head*

thank you Zen,

Others may use the Nightrose name if they previously held it, but due to how it ended, I will not carry it on myself.

I am glad you decided to remain in Dustari, and that this resolved amicably.

You should play Lord Durime from your main account through, not on that old one with a global tag. PM me in Forums or in game and I'll set it up.

You are still welcome to play Tseng Nightrose of course, we can work out which ever character you feel fits better. :)

Wonderful news, Amazingly Tseng didn't speak my thoughts here as usually ;)

Nice way to turn it over too, as opposed to "OMG TSENG=NOTKINGNOW K" hehe!

Now Tseng can concerntrate more on his other duties.

And Dustari can look forward to full-time leadership.

I'm glad that Tseng stepped down, noone has ever been more deserving of a throne than Padren, and Zoe will be a great Queen.
I am also glad that Tseng is to remain in Dustari, I understand that he has been too busy to run Dustari effectively, and am glad that Dustari has not had to lose such a player.
That's all that can be said, except: Long Live King Padren And Queen Zoe!

I believe Padren and Zoe will be good and just rulers, and I am glad that King Father Tseng will remain with us, to provide wisdom if needed ((and replies to emails every now and then ;) )).

Tseng didn't step down, they removed him illegally :)

Erm, cool i guess. Especially because i'm evil hahahahaa

Edited by busyrobot on vblalb lalsf

I didn't say he stepped down happily, I said we made amends after the fact, and no, he was not ilegally removed. :)

First of all i want to congrat Padren and Zoe, and i think even trough tseng didnt want to at first he has peace with it now he knows this is the best for dustari.We were kinda kingless for a long time and padren and zoe took care for us im sure they will be great king/queen i think alot of people are happy that it happend not that we hate you tseng just majority of people felt that the wanted there king back :)

Though not the way I'd like to have seen Tseng go, I guess it had to happen sooner or later.

"I didn't say he stepped down happily, I said we made amends after the fact, and no, he was not ilegally removed. " - Padren

Opposite (1/5/2004 1:46:40 AM):

Somehow they got someone to remove me. Wtf.

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Opposite (1/5/2004 1:48:06 AM):

I did not resign.

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The above = Tseng
Now unless that was Stefan (which I know wasn't as he did not come online at the point of time Tseng was removed) then it was done illegally :)

For last time, no, it wasn't.

I already talked to Stefan, and I told him Tseng was removed, and that Tseng did not know how he was removed, and may think stefan did it.

He said 'ok good'

he then gave me forums mod rights, so if he had a problem with that, it is a funny way of showing it.




Tseng had more chances than any other leader in gk history Chris, he wasted all of them. Sorry, but that is a fact.
I know you are not the most active king, but your citizens are happy with it, and I would bet you would address their concerns when they are not.

You have not seen one dustarian post yet, saying they wished Tseng was still the King, do you?

There is a reason for that, now, it is best if we move forward, there is no need to continue wounds that started a great number of months ago.

Start a 'bash meh' thread if you want, but this is not the thread for such debate.

Long live Tseng. I will not accept any other as King. (Of course, I'm not even in the kingdom).

Wow how rpish..someone said "cheeze" while in character, not even using the basic RP rule stating that all OOC material is to be in brackets.

If Tseng had been removed illegally, wouldn't he mention it in some way, rather than just smiling?

King got removed, Padren = new king.

Where's the damn RP story? You can't just click on a button and Tseng isn't King anymore -_-

Games require a certain suspension of reality- that said, there is a story, if you had been there ;)

It was Rped, actually. We did confront him, he had no support, and he fled into the night from the castle.

He used the game mechanics to stay king and cling on and laugh while we could do nothing, but didn't know we could still use the same things to remove him.


If we could not of done that, we would then have gone to stefan, but it proved unnessacary and I did speak with Stefan later on the matter, explained it, and he was okay with it.



Tseng had more chances anyone else ever has had, it was unfair of him to act so badly so long.

If he was to be restored now, well, the last revolt would look like a tea party. Even if I wasn't there. Dustari doesn't want that ever again.

As much as I would love to see it end like this. I dont think it will. I see a long line of argueing and battleing.

I was not going to speak upon this matter until it was resolved, but here's what's up:

1) I should still be the King of Dustari.
2) Some bug in the Kingdoms-GUI was exploited to remove my title OOC-ly
3) An IC gathering did take place. When I noticed that my countrymen were all carrying swords, and were plotting my death, I did indeed leave the castle. I made a proclamation that I would decide Dustari's future in the morning.

There were no 'game mechanics' used to 'hold onto my power'.

I also kindly ask Padren to cease his lying.

Until the matter is resolved, I shall continue the stories of Zatts Zorkov, Lance Angelus, and other various characters that have managed to slip through time's cracks, including the ever-popular mysterious stranger. :)

Did you NOT see Padren's opening post in this thread?? lol

Please dont repeat the mistakes of Kamuii

I'll put it this way. I do believe that Tseng was a good king, but I agree that he has not been on tag much - as far as I have seen. On the other hand, this never afflicted my rping. Also, I can't judge other timezones. I don't know about any promises he is said to have broken, and I don't know what he is doing when he's on without tag either - I do believe that he's doing his job to administrate GK a little. He never harmed me in any way, and no, what I say here is not forced ot bought in any way.
Also, I think Padren and Zoe can become good rulers, just to make this point clear.
Now, I don't like intrigues and such, and I don't say anyone is lieing - I say that what is happening here is not for the good of Dustari.

Tseng.....
 

Tseng was rarely on tag and always in testbed.nw. I'm not trying to be mean, but I think Padren and Zoe are doing a good job. Let them stay.

hmmmm
 

Yet again your pride astounds me, Tseng. One day, perhaps soon, this will happen to me and to Padren, but I shall not embarrass myself by being too proud to accept what I cannot change. If the people of Dustari desire a new King, it should be so. If they desire now to have you, Tseng, back...it should be so.

It is the welfare and happiness of Dustari that is most important. Not my pride, not Padren's and certainly not yours. This is a good and strong kingdom and has my love always however it will be by the people and for the people.

Queen Zoe Sagesun Talisan

"by the people and for the people."

I dont mean to bud into your kingdoms affairs but that last quote got my brain running. Last time I checked Monarchy's were not Democracy's. I also have a bit of Irony to go along with the quote. Can anybody remeber Graal's old slogan? "By the people for the people." You know back when it was free... But in any case I love graal and dont mind paying for it.

On a final note Tseng has every right to manitain his kingdomship of Dustari which I beleive to be fair and accurate. But if all you revolutionist decied to leave Dustari high and dry he may be forced to resign for he will have no kingdom left... in a sense. I dont recommend doing that course of action because it is the immature way to go about this situation. :eek:

Yes, it would be AMAZINGLY immature for the disgruntled masses to leave a kingdom if a king they do not like was to rule -_-

Interesting Kyje
 

What difference would it make actually...as, when he was King, it was dying from neglect. He spent his time sorrowing over Hurumi and playing ERA and other games. 10 Months of neglect can go a long way toward the failure of a Kingdom. If the people left, it would probably indicate a lack of interest in his further neglect.

I don't know, but it seems sad to be a King for the sake of title.

Again, they turn to lies and deceit in an attempt to dissuade people from listening to my points.

Yes, Zoe, I spent some time with Era before I was ever King of Dustari. I assisted in dealing with the masses of trainer-users, and helped a bit with the everday running/scripting/etc of the server.

-I am Dustari's rightful king.
-I was not slain.
-My crown was not taken.
-I did not resign.

Thus, I am still Dustari's rightful king.

I was lenient and did not remove you people immediately for treason - as I had stated in my proclamation, I was going to sleep on it, and come to a decision in the morning (IC, that is).

Your behavior is disgusting...abusing some kind of Kingdom-GUI error (OOCly) to remove me from my kingdom.

I will also note the interesting jump - last I had heard, it was only 6 months that I was inactive, and now it has jumped to 10? Sorry, Zoe, but I do not think it has been quite that long, especially as I became Prince until roughly 8 ago.

What I find wholly ironic (and hypocritical) is, while you accuse me of 'doing no actions', here I was the other day doing some, and you then remove me (OOCly).

Action?
 

Care to explain the actions? I only remember your having to go help two friends, two times in emergency situations and a movie.
Did something occur I was not privy to?

Re: The No Action King strikes back
 

After the movie, I developed an ache in the pit of my stomach. I was not feeling well, so I laid down. I signed on for three quick seconds to check something before doing so.

That completely fails to acknowledge that I was on for a few hours hours prior to that on Sunday...?

And, if you want to give some other reason for why I left, why not make up one that might actually be plausible, such as "Padren and Zoe's allegations, insults, and harassments of me while I was on tag"?

Zoe, I merely want what is rightfully mine and was stolen from me through inappropriate means. Whether or not I was going to resign of my own accord in time is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Edit: Mmm, you edited your post. I'll respect that by editing out the low jab at my character. As for my actions: I did what you two so clearly accused me of not doing - being online, getting to know my kingdom, speaking with my citizens, etc. I was also planning an interesting Adventure, whereby Dustari could explore a faraway land, a dungeon, and possibly even find some treasure (I was still debating that last one). Of course, that's all irrelevant now. I will note that I registered that plan with Padren, so if he feels like being honest for a chance, he will grant that he knew of it.

A monarchy survives by iron rule or by leadership, but Tseng did not wield the iron nor show leadership.



Let us review a few facts:


1) Dustari, I am sorry Tseng, has not wished for your rule in a long time, and I no longer try to convince people that you will change.

2) You had more chances than any other king in the history of GK.

3) Your attempts to lie to stefan, to tell him you learned of people's unhappiness but two days ago, is a sham and a lie.

We did not opportinistically stike while the iron is hot, we pleaded with you for months and you know this. Others do not so much, only because we are honorable enough to be more private.

You were friendly a night before, now you are venom.
Last night you say you hold no resentment, how you attack us.

Then you accuse us of lies and hypocracy.

I am sure, as stefan sees that dustari hasn't supported you in a long time, that the majority of people, have had to be convinced my myself to stick with you, that you will understand why this is indeed fair and that action was justified.

You know you had more chances than anyone in gk history, explain that in your next post.

Padren is right. You didn't pay that much attention to the kingdom.

This is just going to go downhill, and the bickering on both sides just promises to dishonor Dustari further -_-. Hopefully both Tseng and Padren will at least stay on this nice civil middle level they're on right now i hope