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Thallen 01-05-2004 03:51 AM

The UPs and DOWNs - Zone is released!
 
UP(s): Zone
DOWNs: Graal 2001, Rudora

So what do you guys think? Not just about Zone, but about the downfall of the other two servers? Please don't turn it into another arguement thread. Let me voice my opinion: I think with the removal of G2K and Rudora, Cynical and Maloria should have been put up. New-age servers are getting far too old, and I've already lost interest in Zone.

Blue_Dragn 01-05-2004 03:56 AM

Re: The UPs and DOWNs - Zone is released!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Thallen
UP(s): Zone
DOWNs: Graal 2001, Rudora

So what do you guys think? Not just about Zone, but about the downfall of the other two servers? Please don't turn it into another arguement thread. Let me voice my opinion: I think with the removal of G2K and Rudora, Cynical and Maloria should have been put up. New-age servers are getting far too old, and I've already lost interest in Zone.

Agreed.

However i dont think Cynical or Maloria should be prioritized as being put up first, they already had their chance, judging them on the same plain as a new server who started fresh, seems a little unfair.

However The rest is true, new age servers have long since become stale

haunter 01-05-2004 03:56 AM

Personally I think it was a good thing that G2k1 was removed from the classic list... It's not doing much good there until we can finally finish Kingdoms etcetc...

--Chris-- 01-05-2004 04:06 AM

I agree with Haunter
<3 for Zone (hopefully I don't find more copyright graphics ^-^)

and down with everything else under the tab except Era and Adventure <3

Blue_Dragn 01-05-2004 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by --Chris--
I agree with Haunter
<3 for Zone (hopefully I don't find more copyright graphics ^-^)

and down with everything else under the tab except Era and Adventure <3

You have your opinion and i have mine
Ew.

Futuristic/Modern servers are Stale and overused

Question:
This server has guns, why hasnt it been compared to Era yet? Is it because of the creator(s)?

Edit:

For those of you who will respond with "Its a Diffrent Type of gun concept" in the end, a gun is a gun.

Monkeyboy_McGee 01-05-2004 04:15 AM

Ew. Why did you make this on graal? It's not graal. It is just a crudely made Q3F wannabe...all it is is a bunch of minigames. (not to mention that most of the classes are either exactly the same, or do absolutely nothing against the others). The only way to kill anything is to pull out the damned lightsaber and hack people up. how ridiculous.

deman1171 01-05-2004 04:19 AM

Zone is great, it's like nothing i've ever seen before, it deserves to be a gold server, it's really advanced and new, and graal needs something besides the old "PK/EVENTS/OMG OLD GRAAL I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" servers.
I hope Graal2001 isn't down too long.

Monkeyboy_McGee 01-05-2004 04:23 AM

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Originally posted by deman1171
"PK/EVENTS/OMG OLD GRAAL I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" servers.
wait...have you even played this place? all there is to do is shoot/slice the other team. *****.

Blue_Dragn 01-05-2004 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by deman1171
Zone is great, it's like nothing i've ever seen before,
and something that could have used a tad more work and consideration before it was launched.

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it deserves to be a gold server,
Right, so the classic people dont have to go through this.

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it's really advanced and new,
No.

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and graal needs something besides the old "PK/EVENTS/OMG OLD GRAAL I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" servers.
Wtf is this. I agree that not all servers should be PK Oriented but really "I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" please i wont even comment, ill let someone else.

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I hope Graal2001 isn't down too long.
I hope that it has the same complications getting back on the list as every other server will. Except if it has the complications Zone did, it will be back in no time.

Nitkizi 01-05-2004 04:33 AM

I don't like Zone, the bodies annoy me and there is less to do than Era. Also, the sound effects sound like Quake 2. And it isn't "advanced and new", we already have Era. Some people may like it, but I don't. :(

konidias 01-05-2004 04:34 AM

Haha, I just got on Zone. The first thing that comes to my mind, is that my character looks like the principal from South Park. (the one with the huge head and tiny body) :p

Zone doesn't really peak my interests... The tileset is bland and dull, the inventory is confusing and the right text on the inventory is so hard to read.

The mouseover name thing is a lot like Oasis though. I give them a thumbs up for that... and that's about it.

deman1171 01-05-2004 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
I don't like Zone, the bodies annoy me and there is less to do than Era. Also, the sound effects sound like Quake 2. And it isn't "advanced and new", we already have Era. Some people may like it, but I don't. :(
Uh, era is just a classic server with laggy lights and guns.
Zone, it's graphics are beautiful, the gui and systems are grand, it has unique bodies, beautiful lights, and very advanced scripts.

Blue_Dragn 01-05-2004 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
I don't like Zone, the bodies annoy me and there is less to do than Era. Also, the sound effects sound like Quake 2. And it isn't "advanced and new", we already have Era. Some people may like it, but I don't. :(
I was wondering if anyone would draw the similarity between Zone and Era, although this is not the same as when people insert one gun into their server they are an "Era Rip".

I guess I will have to agree

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Uh, era is just a classic server with laggy lights and guns.
Zone, it's graphics are beautiful, the gui and systems are grand, it has unique bodies, beautiful lights, and very advanced scripts.
Im sorry but are you playing with your eyes closed?

Monkeyboy_McGee 01-05-2004 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by deman1171

Uh, era is just a classic server with laggy lights and guns.
Zone, is just a classic server with laggy everything and poor guns

You're so observant.

protagonist 01-05-2004 05:01 AM

I get stuck in the start place.

Blue_Dragn 01-05-2004 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist
I get stuck in the start place.
I did too, then i got to move, then suddenly i had been killed like 23 times.

Androk 01-05-2004 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
The mouseover name thing is a lot like Oasis though. I give them a thumbs up for that... and that's about it.
*Slaps Koni* Same for Hartland 0.o Although I am really rethinking that concept x.x

Edit: Oh and Zone is pretty cool, but I got bored 0.o Just seemed that if I take out UT, I would feel that I wasted my time better.

haunter 01-05-2004 05:38 AM

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Originally posted by Androk


*Slaps Koni* Same for Hartland 0.o Although I am really rethinking that concept x.x

Dude, I've had that concept in my head for a looong time... It isn't anything ground breaking... In fact, I think it should be a default server option... Rollovernick = true/false

Androk 01-05-2004 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by haunter
Dude, I've had that concept in my head for a looong time... It isn't anything ground breaking... In fact, I think it should be a default server option... Rollovernick = true/false
Yeah I know, well the concept is sorta different, so mouseover name has huge value, but I ain't telling.

Thak2 01-05-2004 06:06 AM

Zone rocks, some buginess and ugliness, but fun.

Sousuke 01-05-2004 06:22 AM

If you can see pass all the glitchy gameplay and ugly levels, like Thak stated above, it's sort of fun. I really don't see why Stefan chose it over the other playerworlds.

Darlene159 01-05-2004 06:32 AM

I dont really like it, not my style...
Everything is Gray X.x
and there are NO FEMALE HEADS OR BODIES! Really, what's up with that?

I dont know, I dont get into walking around and shooting people

But the graphics are well done, and I suppose it is suppose to be that color for what it is, but the bodies, IMO, are ugly X.x

Androk 01-05-2004 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I dont really like it, not my style...
Everything is Gray X.x
and there are NO FEMALE HEADS OR BODIES! Really, what's up with that?

I dont know, I dont get into walking around and shooting people

But the graphics are well done, and I suppose it is suppose to be that color for what it is, but the bodies, IMO, are ugly X.x

There are 2 skirts... XD

TonyRivers 01-05-2004 07:50 AM

The only thing I can find wrong with it is the bodies don't fit the tiles. BlooKat made a bunch of filter looking tiles and the bodies are more of a cartoonish style.

I am going to make a system for metroplis where you have to talk with the person first (through a conversation npc like similar to a chat room that shows your characters profile) then they are considerd a pal or whatever you like to call it then you can roll your mouse over them and see their name. I get annoyd by huge letters under the character.

Darlene159 01-05-2004 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Androk


There are 2 skirts... XD

ok...so guys wear skirts? I saw no girl heads x.x

toxicwolf136 01-05-2004 09:18 AM

Zone has some good graphics. However, the gameplay is a lot like another game, but I've forgotten the name. It is pretty much the same thing as the other game, if I remember right. Besides that, good server.

Angel 01-05-2004 09:44 AM

Now if this isnt Love/Hate I dont know what is :D


(You love it, Or you hate it)

D1ce2 01-05-2004 12:29 PM

Me, ningnong and markb logged on Zone. I personally hated it. It's to complicated to even do anything. No instructions, nothing. So I left and played some more of GK :( . But it looks quite good..

Qwert616 01-05-2004 03:06 PM

I wasn't really too impressed with Zone. Didn't really care for the inventory or game system. :(


I just hope 2001 doesn't stay down for too long...

Crono 01-05-2004 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deman1171
Zone is great, it's like nothing i've ever seen before, it deserves to be a gold server, it's really advanced and new, and graal needs something besides the old "PK/EVENTS/OMG OLD GRAAL I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" servers.
I hope Graal2001 isn't down too long.

Why Gold server? Being a server on the gold tab doesnt make you any better than the ones on the classic tab. Just look at GK. UN and Era are ALWAYS beating GK playercount wise.

Your comment about pking and crap, THE ONLY THING TO DO ON ZONE IS TO PK. I love the way someone else put it (can't remember your name v_v; too lazy to look) "Are you playing with your eyes closed?"

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Originally posted by --Chris--
and down with everything else under the tab except Era
May I ask sir, WTF?

Admins 01-05-2004 05:00 PM

Zone has very nice gfx, the weapons are quite balanced, it's different than the other Graal servers. If there are other quality servers then they have a chance to come on the classic tab too.

Nitkizi 01-05-2004 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
ok...so guys wear skirts? I saw no girl heads x.x
Only REAL men wear skirts. :cool:

dlang 01-05-2004 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Stefan
Zone has very nice gfx, the weapons are quite balanced, it's different than the other Graal servers. If there are other quality servers then they have a chance to come on the classic tab too.
I got bored after playing on it for 5 minutes.. There were NO instructions as to what to do.

Gfx aren't everything...

Zone is like... if you started a new game on Halo... and they just put you in some hallway in the Pillar of Autum without a gun... while the ship is being attacked and expected you to go fight the invaders and didn't tell you how to do anything or how to get a weapon.

The GFX are good, but it wouldn't be very fun if you ran around trying to get a gun while you get killed.

~Inverness

Minoc 01-05-2004 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by deman1171
it deserves to be a gold server
And lose 90% of its player base?

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Originally posted by deman1171
and graal needs something besides the old "PK/EVENTS/OMG OLD GRAAL I FEEL DAT O BABY THOSE WERE THE DAYS" servers.
There isn't a single old Graal server.

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Originally posted by deman1171
I hope Graal2001 isn't down too long.
Why? You rarely played there.

Kronan 01-05-2004 11:14 PM

I really dont care for Zone, its boreing, its going to be like Era, a bunch of fools running around shooting at eachother.

protagonist 01-05-2004 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi


Only REAL men wear skirts. :cool:

Kilts.:cool:

konidias 01-05-2004 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by dlang


I got bored after playing on it for 5 minutes.. There were NO instructions as to what to do.

Gfx aren't everything...

Zone is like... if you started a new game on Halo... and they just put you in some hallway in the Pillar of Autum without a gun... while the ship is being attacked and expected you to go fight the invaders and didn't tell you how to do anything or how to get a weapon.

The GFX are good, but it wouldn't be very fun if you ran around trying to get a gun while you get killed.

~Inverness

Haha, that made me laugh out loud.

It's true though. It's like the makers of the server forgot that the players haven't been developing everything right along with them.

Player's don't know the in's and out's of the system like the staff do. I have no idea how to do anything there. I couldn't get out of the first area. I somehow managed to equip binoculars that were ridiculously hard to use. I walked around and just saw people standing there not talking. Then moving like 4 minutes later. I could barely even tell if they were alive. I thought they were NPC's for a while.

It seems like a server that had a good start, and good early development. Then it kinda just fell apart and the staff just slapped stuff together in an attempt to finish it. I really don't see what all the hype is about though. It has no real original ideas. I read the FAQ today as to what the goal is on the server and basically it's this:

Kill people to make money. Make money to buy bigger guns and augmentations. Kill more people.

Wow, that's deep. Let me shed a tear for that insanely creative gameplay idea. Wait... that's not a tear of joy...

WHIPENIE4 01-05-2004 11:33 PM

i dont see whats great about Zone really. I mean. my sister can draw better graphics then that. no offense i'm just saying, its another Era type server where you're going to shoot the hell out of someone when they log on

--Chris-- 01-05-2004 11:34 PM

I figured out everything within minutes, I like the class system and bounty rewards on certain players ^-^ Zone is really fun in my opinion with CTF and all...even though a bit repetitive it doesn't really cut out the fun factor. I look forward to what's to come in the future with Zone <3

Monkeyboy_McGee 01-06-2004 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darlene159
I dont really like it, not my style...
Everything is Gray X.x
and there are NO FEMALE HEADS OR BODIES! Really, what's up with that?

I dont know, I dont get into walking around and shooting people

But the graphics are well done, and I suppose it is suppose to be that color for what it is, but the bodies, IMO, are ugly X.x

So, not being able to have a certain-styled piece of graphic is stopping you from shooting things (the only thing to do on the server)? XD

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk


There are 2 skirts... XD

Yes, exactly. Well, not...exactly. I happen to use one of these "skirts" o_o not sure why, it just seems to fit in with the rest of the outfit i wear. Plus the bodies are so retarded that you could hardly call it a skirt anyway XD

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias

It has no real original ideas. I read the FAQ today as to what the goal is on the server and basically it's this:

Kill people to make money. Make money to buy bigger guns and augmentations. Kill more people.

Wow, that's deep. Let me shed a tear for that insanely creative gameplay idea. Wait... that's not a tear of joy...

Hoho, yeah. This is the only reason i'm carrying on playing; im halfway to buying a chaingun. If its good, i'll shoot a few people with it then leave most likely. If it sucks, i'll just leave right away o_O

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Originally posted by --Chris--
I figured out everything within minutes, I like the class system and bounty rewards on certain players ^-^
Yeah, things aren't as hard to figure out as people are saying they are. The hardest thing for me was reading the indecypherable text on the team radio that says like "say '<text> to talk to your team" or something :grin:

And if you were to put the class and bounty on a decent server, or on a different game that -was- intended to host Q3F ripoffs, then you'd have yourself a good game. :o


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