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Python523 11-28-2003 05:05 AM

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I will no longer help with any in game things on 2k2 with the exception of restarting the NPC-Server. I wont go into any details besides the fact that I'm sick and tired of not being able to keep an open aim screenname without getting bothered, and just sick of always being bothered; I am not the answer to every problem. I will continue to develope on the Debug server but besides that consider me driven away from 2k2.

DenoriZakarum 11-28-2003 05:43 AM

People ask you becasue your like the only one who can fix things. Isnt it your duty as an admin to put up with this stuff?

Lance 11-28-2003 05:44 AM

:(!

Python523 11-28-2003 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum
People ask you becasue your like the only one who can fix things. Isnt it your duty as an admin to put up with this stuff?
When it gets to be more of an annoyance and a chore then it is time for a change I think.... originally I had fun; now it practically makes me feel sick

Judge_S 11-28-2003 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum
People ask you becasue your like the only one who can fix things. Isnt it your duty as an admin to put up with this stuff?
Doesn't he have the right to use a chat program (or any other form of communication, for that matter) without being harassed about every little trivial thing incessantly?

DenoriZakarum 11-28-2003 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S

Doesn't he have the right to use a chat program (or any other form of communication, for that matter) without being harassed about every little trivial thing incessantly?

Isnt it his job to do half of the stuff the people ask? Just because one ruints it doesnt mean others should suffer (in this case not one, but many)

Python523 11-28-2003 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by DenoriZakarum


Isnt it his job to do half of the stuff the people ask? Just because one ruints it doesnt mean others should suffer (in this case not one, but many)

It was more than one person, I lost count awhile ago

zell12 11-28-2003 06:54 AM

Stefan said Tseng and you are getting edit account rights soon. Anyway, you should you would help get my stuff back last week, but you left without notice. Did you only say you would because Hurumi was on?

graaliholic 11-28-2003 10:31 AM

Yay, less admin on GK, just what we need :( :o .

skyler87 11-28-2003 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by graaliholic
Yay, less admin on GK, just what we need :( :o .
My thoughts exactly :\

Spark910 11-28-2003 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
Stefan said Tseng and you are getting edit account rights soon.
:eek:

--Chris-- 11-28-2003 02:19 PM

I know how you feel Jagen ;x
This is quite disappointing...especially coming from a good staff member capable of doing alot.

Satrek2000 11-28-2003 03:03 PM

When will people learn that the best way to get what you want is not to push it... Then again, politeness has taken a trip down the dungeon on GK recently for most...

Loriel 11-28-2003 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910
:eek:
I guess puny mud accounts are meant and not real Graal accounts.

thelostviking 11-28-2003 04:10 PM

Your right but it would have been good if you didnt tell out your screenname and stuffs, like stefan does it for example.

Satrek2000 11-28-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by thelostviking
Your right but it would have been good if you didnt tell out your screenname and stuffs, like stefan does it for example.
So it's his fault that people come and annoy him? I mean, being active for Graal in any way doesn't include giving up your private life, chatting with friends and stuff. Certainly, having seperate screennames can help, but who'd check the one for "work"-stuff, if it only gets spammed?

thelostviking 11-28-2003 05:17 PM

i think 50% of all kingdoms players are 14 or under it (it looks like this for me because pk is shildish).
So in this user group many still think that annoying staff has a effect!

Lance 11-28-2003 07:09 PM

I have ~4 people blocked from my (public) AIM screen name. The rest know not to annoy me.

zell12 11-28-2003 07:16 PM

Yeah, or we get sucka punched.

Satrek2000 11-28-2003 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by thelostviking
i think 50% of all kingdoms players are 14 or under it
I'd rather say they behave as if they were. In my experience, behaviour has nothing to do with a person's age. I've met 25-year-olds who behaved more childish than 15-year-olds who I'd actually call adult in comparison.

As for IMs, I don't block anyone (except some spam-numbers on ICQ, but who cares about them). I never had problems with people, neither on AIM nor on Graal.

poop3131 11-29-2003 06:26 AM

he said he'd get my items back last week as well x.x

GryffonDurime 11-29-2003 07:43 AM

it's sad that this is the way Graal loses MOST of it's staff population.

Splke 11-30-2003 07:07 AM

*keeps mouth shut of important evil opinions and such!!!*

Bai Jagen :o

Oh, btw, Tseng and Jagen getting account editting rights = evil bad news.... :O *runs and hides!*

Judge_S 11-30-2003 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Splke
Oh, btw, Tseng and Jagen getting account editting rights = evil bad news.... :O *runs and hides!*
So let's let the public server fall into even more disrepair and suffer the concequences of more bugs. Woo! Great idea!

Nappa 11-30-2003 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Lance
The rest know not to annoy me.
I don't! *Runs off to annoy*

Splke 11-30-2003 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S

So let's let the public server fall into even more disrepair and suffer the concequences of more bugs. Woo! Great idea!

Let me try to put this as lightly as I can... Lets NOT give the child with a gun bullets, load the gun, and show him how to use it. Dolt.

Judge_S 11-30-2003 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Splke


Let me try to put this as lightly as I can... Lets NOT give the child with a gun bullets, load the gun, and show him how to use it. Dolt.

So, you're incinuating that Jagen and Lance are irresponsible?

Splke 11-30-2003 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S


So, you're incinuating that Jagen and Lance are irresponsible?

Well, I couldnt infer that with my "strong base of evidence" but I have no means to even try. I feel Lance is doing a fine job, and Jagen himself is, I simply wish they would stop favoring some individuals, for whatever reason they may be favoring them...

:edit: you used the defintion of insinuate wrong ;o.:tide:

Judge_S 11-30-2003 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Splke


Well, I couldnt infer that with my "strong base of evidence" but I have no means to even try. I feel Lance is doing a fine job, and Jagen himself is, I simply wish they would stop favoring some individuals, for whatever reason they may be favoring them...

Who would be the ideal person? Obviously no one that plays Graal, as Stefan and Unixmad simply don't have the time to do such trivial things.
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:edit: you used the defintion of insinuate wrong ;o.:tide:
Incorrect. While I did spell it incorrectly, here is a definition:

3. To hint; to suggest by remote allusion; -- often used derogatorily; as, did you mean to insinuate anything?

Splke 11-30-2003 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S

Who would be the ideal person? Obviously no one that plays Graal, as Stefan and Unixmad simply don't have the time to do such trivial things.

Incorrect. While I did spell it incorrectly, here is a definition:

3. To hint; to suggest by remote allusion; -- often used derogatorily; as, did you mean to insinuate anything?

I dont think any CHILD should be left in charge of a company, or of a single server or part of a company, since it's irresponsible... However, I dont doubt that Tseng and Jagen can handle most anything, except for the everyday problems that come with being a high authority on Graal...

o, and poo, your right, I looked up teh insinuation :P

And uh, DX needs to run out of funds, so he can come back from hiatus :( Ish missing him I am...

Anywhom, I'm not all-in-great health right now, so I dont feel like arguing much more... those ramen noodles might sneak up my throat sometime tonite.

Satrek2000 11-30-2003 05:54 PM

In my experience, Tseng as well as jagen are responsible as well as trustworthy. If you think of them otherwise, then either you got a tilted impression, or you disregard some facts (maybe concerning their behavious in an event or such you believe you should have won, whatever). Furthermore, I don't see anyone, especially in this thread, who I'd rather like to have such rights.

Splke 12-01-2003 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Satrek2000
In my experience, Tseng as well as jagen are responsible as well as trustworthy. If you think of them otherwise, then either you got a tilted impression, or you disregard some facts (maybe concerning their behavious in an event or such you believe you should have won, whatever). Furthermore, I don't see anyone, especially in this thread, who I'd rather like to have such rights.
Yeah, their responsible enough, but that doesnt make up for the fact that you simply cannot give somebody who really doesnt seem to care if others think he's corrupt and such (no offense Tseng) powers to simply take what he wants.

And, I dont hold grudges, I find in doing so, you limit your ability to actually find out how great a person one might be, as I've learned about Tseng through many up's and downs.

Zethar 12-01-2003 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Splke

o, and poo, your right, I looked up teh insinuation :P

I told ya last night he used it right :(

Satrek2000 12-01-2003 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Splke
Yeah, their responsible enough, but that doesnt make up for the fact that you simply cannot give somebody who really doesnt seem to care if others think he's corrupt and such (no offense Tseng) powers to simply take what he wants.
Okay. You are corrupt? Why? Because I say so. There's no way for you to convince me otherwise, no matter how rule-abiding you behave from now on, or how you despised corruption in the past. Now what would you rather do, try and talk me out of this idea, which, as far as you would surely know, is nonsense, or go ahead with your job? Which is after all taking care of GK, not soothing the player's minds towards yourself.

Lance 12-01-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Splke


Yeah, their responsible enough, but that doesnt make up for the fact that you simply cannot give somebody who really doesnt seem to care if others think he's corrupt and such (no offense Tseng) powers to simply take what he wants.

I don't care if people think I'm corrupt. This does not, however, mean that I do not care if I am corrupt or not (but your post seems to indicate it does). :)

*shrug* I suppose that my methods may seem unconvential sometimes, but they work more often than not.

Splke 12-01-2003 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Satrek2000


Okay. You are corrupt? Why? Because I say so. There's no way for you to convince me otherwise, no matter how rule-abiding you behave from now on, or how you despised corruption in the past. Now what would you rather do, try and talk me out of this idea, which, as far as you would surely know, is nonsense, or go ahead with your job? Which is after all taking care of GK, not soothing the player's minds towards yourself.

Problem, you cant talk to him about it, Problem scenario A. Your ignored, or B. Your banned temporarily for harrassment... so why try... plus, I think in any players mind, when their banned, it was "Unjust" or something amongst those lines... I've never been banned, so to me it doesnt matter, but when a reason of ban doesnt read what reason I was given, one gets abit annoyed.. anywhom

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I don't care if people think I'm corrupt. This does not, however, mean that I do not care if I am corrupt or not (but your post seems to indicate it does).
I dont mean to directly assualt you with being corrupt or have been doing corrupt actions.. I'm simply expressing my opinion upon the fact that you dont really care if people think you are, or are not...

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*shrug* I suppose that my methods may seem unconvential sometimes, but they work more often than not.
Agreed, but sometimes their abit, uhh, how shall I put it, rude... You seem to no care for players concerns, but only seem to want to do what you want... unno, might or worded that wrong, scuse me if i seem rude or seem like im assualting you.

time for me to catch some :asleep:

oh... and no u werent zeth

GoZelda 12-02-2003 03:59 PM

*notices thread*
That's annoying, Jagen :\ I've only spoken in-game to you once, but what i've seen from you on the forums, and what i've heard of you you're a pretty cool guy. All those people must be really working on your nervers :\


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