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MrGannondorf 11-27-2003 01:46 AM

putnpc2
 
putnpc2...
how does one use that?

ForgottenLegacy 11-27-2003 01:49 AM

putnpc2 xval,yval,{
script;
}

MrGannondorf 11-27-2003 04:28 AM

ah, thanx

xManiamaNx 11-27-2003 07:19 AM

serverside only of course ;) Also doesn't work offline.

Lance 11-27-2003 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by xManiamaNx
serverside only of course ;) Also doesn't work offline.
A -> B.

Gambet 11-27-2003 08:04 AM

why must you post negative comments all the times lance?, the question was answered so why not either give more explanation towards the question or just dont post at all, i mean all you do is post negativity and contradictions.

Lance 11-27-2003 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Gambet
why must you post negative comments all the times lance?, the question was answered so why not either give more explanation towards the question or just dont post at all, i mean all you do is post negativity and contradictions.
...How is "A -> B" negative?

...Or for that matter, how is it unhelpful? I was noting that serverside only generally implies that it won't work in offline mode.

Deek2 11-27-2003 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Lance

...Or for that matter, how is it unhelpful?

He already indicated that it doesn't work in offline mode.

Lance 11-27-2003 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Deek2

He already indicated that it doesn't work in offline mode.

You missed the point, though. I said that the former generally implies the latter; he had not noted that relationship.

Gambet 11-27-2003 11:00 AM

its funny lance, just yesturday you said its applies not implies and now your using implies, you like to contradict yourself a lot.

Lance 11-27-2003 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Gambet
its funny lance, just yesturday yo usaid its applies not implies and now your using implies, you like to contradict yourself a lot.
No, I just like to use words properly. A statement can imply something (it has a hidden message). A statement can apply (be relevant or appropriate) to a situation. The words are not synonomous, and you used the incorrect one in your post.

Also, kudos for yet again not responding to any time I prove you utterly incorrect. It's an interesting debating strategy, indeed.

Gambet 11-27-2003 11:12 AM

It doesnt matter how you use it, this isnt english class, this is a game, and you can use both of them however you want because you know what i was meaning so it means nothing. If you wanna lecture people on writing then go work at a school. Now, of course every word has different meanings but some are very closely alike, just like applies and implies are alike and i did use it properly.

Deek2 11-27-2003 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Lance


You missed the point, though. I said that the former generally implies the latter; he had not noted that relationship.

He would more than likely already of noticed this relationship, since It's almost common sense to realize that if a command is server sided only, that trying to execute it offline is not going to work. Though it probably doesn't apply to everyone, I could be wrong.

Lance 11-27-2003 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Gambet
It doesnt matter how you use it
Actually, diction's a good skill to have in life.

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this isnt english class, this is a game, and you can use both of them however you want because you know what i was meaning so it means nothing.
Hence my "by the way" in that post. I was attempting to do you a favor; I suppose I shouldn't extend such a courtesy to you in the future.

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If you wanna lecture people on writing then go work at a school.
The salary's too small, sorry. :)

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Now, of course every word has different meanings but some are very closely alike, just like applies and implies are alike
They're not alike, they just have similar sounds. Just because two words rhyme doesn't mean they're interchangable. :)

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and i did use it properly.
No...you didn't. You used the wrong word. As I just explained. Sigh, again.

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Originally posted by Deek2

He would more than likely already of noticed this relationship, since It's almost common sense to realize that if a command is server sided only, that trying to execute it offline is not going to work. Though it probably doesn't apply to everyone, I could be wrong.

Maniaman just said that both were true, but not that there was any relation between the two. Lunpa is interested in learning, so I pointed out the relation in order to give him an extra bit of knowledge to help him on his way. He's eager to learn, doesn't ask to have things done for him, and doesn't have delusions of grandure - thus, I am very glad to help out in any way I can. :)

As for common sense - yeah, when you think about it, it is. But, a lot of people don't see that for some reason. *shrugs*

Gambet 11-27-2003 11:26 AM

Bah, Lance, its like you go to threads and look for a way to insult someone in your own little way so that when someone actually says something you lie your way out of it. Applies and Implies do indeed have similar meanings, not exactly the same, but some similarities, they are not completely different. If i used the wrong words then i was mistaken, but the words do have similar meanings.

Lance 11-27-2003 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Gambet
Bah, Lance, its like you go to threads and look for a way to insult someone in your own little way so that when someone actually says something you lie your way out of it.
*shrug* I'm still looking for a good explanation of this. Again, I was attempting to provide Lunpa with a helpful bit of info. I don't really see how that was offensive...

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Applies and Implies do indeed have similar meanings, not exactly the same, but some similarities, they are not completely different. If i used the wrong words then i was mistaken, but the words do have similar meanings.
How is "Is relevant" similar to "Carries a hidden meaning"...?

Gambet 11-27-2003 11:29 AM

And, like i said, i used the correct term. You are the one who must be mistaken, go check the definitions yourself, applies means you are applying something towards something else, implies is to indicate things directly (i.e His tone implied disapproval)

Deek2 11-27-2003 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Lance

Maniaman just said that both were true, but not that there was any relation between the two. Lunpa is interested in learning, so I pointed out the relation in order to give him an extra bit of knowledge to help him on his way. He's eager to learn, doesn't ask to have things done for him, and doesn't have delusions of grandure - thus, I am very glad to help out in any way I can. :)

Very well, I was mistaken by the fact that he was probably just asking about the command as a reference.
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Bah, Lance, its like you go to threads and look for a way to insult someone in your own little way so that when someone actually says something you lie your way out of it.

What are you talking about?
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Applies and Implies do indeed have similar meanings, not exactly the same, but some similarities, they are not completely different.

ap·ply ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-pl)
v. ap·plied, ap·ply·ing, ap·plies
v. tr.

1. To bring into nearness or contact with something; put on, upon, or to: applied glue sparingly to the paper.
2. To put to or adapt for a special use: applies all her money to her mortgage.
3. To put into action: applied the brakes.
4. To devote (oneself or one's efforts) to something: applied myself to my studies.
im·ply ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-pl)
tr.v. im·plied, im·ply·ing, im·plies

1. To involve by logical necessity; entail: Life implies growth and death.
2. To express or indicate indirectly: His tone implied disapproval. See Synonyms at suggest. See Usage Note at infer.
3. Obsolete. To entangle.

Lance 11-27-2003 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gambet
And, like i said, i used the correct term. You are the one who must be mistaken, go check the definitions yourself, applies means you are applying something towards something else, implies is to indicate things directly (i.e His tone implied disapproval)
You've got the right definitions now (except it's an indirect thing, not a direct thing), but:

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From the other thread, by Gambet
so either way what i said implies to whatever you may say.
Something doesn't imply to something else. It can apply to something else, though. (Also, even disregarding the 'to', note the improbability of what you say carrying the hidden message of what I say.) :)

Gambet 11-27-2003 11:44 AM

Yes, see, you had to check all the posts just to prove me wrong, see Lance, i used it incorrectly there but the first time i used it correctly and the first time you said i didnt use it correctly, so again you were incorrect. I used it wrong the second go around but not the first.

Lance 11-27-2003 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gambet
Yes, see, you had to check all the posts just to prove me wrong, see Lance, i used it incorrectly there but the first time i used it correctly and the first time you said i didnt use it correctly, so again you were incorrect. I used it wrong the second go around but not the first.
Uh...I looked in the thread for the post in which I corrected you...the quote was taken directly from that post, where I'd quoted+offered a correction to you.

Angel 11-27-2003 02:39 PM

'Ignorance is excusable, willful ignorance is not. Ignorance meaning a lack of specific knowledge. Willful ignorance is the "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up." attitude."




:( :(

Your contracting that completely, Someone was Ignorant about a comment they made about Serverside and Offline. And you made a comment that was in no way friendly, A simple "Serverside Implies it wont work offline". Would have done it. But you had to make a unfriendly comment. I dont know if you cant control being rude or what but I hope you sort it out, Your burning a lot of bridges.


Thanks


Jessica
Angel

adam 11-27-2003 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Gambet
Bah, Lance, its like you go to threads and look for a way to insult someone in your own little way so that when someone actually says something you lie your way out of it. Applies and Implies do indeed have similar meanings, not exactly the same, but some similarities, they are not completely different. If i used the wrong words then i was mistaken, but the words do have similar meanings.

OMG, he has kaimetsu syndrome.

Dont' worry Lance, we'll find treatment... somehow... someday...

MrCharles 11-27-2003 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gambet
It doesnt matter how you use it, this isnt english class, this is a game, and you can use both of them however you want because you know what i was meaning so it means nothing. If you wanna lecture people on writing then go work at a school. Now, of course every word has different meanings but some are very closely alike, just like applies and implies are alike and i did use it properly.
IMPLY THE GLUE ONTO THE PAPER.>>> DO IT!>!!>

eodit: oshnap that was weird bc deeks dictionary thing had a sentence about glue and i didnt even see it. its like me and the dictionary are broth3rs

MrGannondorf 11-28-2003 09:20 AM

=.= pardon me for skiping through the latter half of the flaming...

anyways, to pertain to the argument, both Lance and Maniaman have a point...
yes, serverside does mean its not gonna work clientside... but putnpc2 is reaconized by the level editor's error checker :o
and imply and apply by no means are the same thing (not to be sucking Lances'...*ahem*, anyways...)


to pertain to something of any relivance, is there any good way to pass a parameter into the new script? (I mean, without a trigger action, etc, fallowing it)

Lance 11-28-2003 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Angel
'Ignorance is excusable, willful ignorance is not. Ignorance meaning a lack of specific knowledge. Willful ignorance is the "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up." attitude."

A wise quote, indeed.

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Your contracting that completely, Someone was Ignorant about a comment they made about Serverside and Offline.
How exactly does a person go about 'contradicting' a quote which explains various types of ignorance, other than by disproving it? Further, how have I done so?

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And you made a comment that was in no way friendly,
Which comment, and how was it not friendly?

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A simple "Serverside Implies it wont work offline". Would have done it.
Ah, I see. Somehow "A->B" is unfriendly. Care to explain?

Regardless, I said what you suggested, merely in fewer words. I merely replaced the first phrase with 'A' and the second with 'B'. It's a popular thing to do in the mathematics field. It's in no way insulting or unfriendly (unless this somehow means something else to you...?).

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But you had to make a unfriendly comment.
I have yet to see how "A->B" is unfriendly.

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I dont know if you cant control being rude or what but I hope you sort it out, Your burning a lot of bridges.
See above. I'm starting to think that you didn't actually read my (quite simple) post, but only paid attention to Gambet's silly complaint.

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Thanks
You're welcome.

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Jessica
Angel
Lance

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Originally posted by MrGannondorf
to pertain to something of any relivance, is there any good way to pass a parameter into the new script? (I mean, without a trigger action, etc, fallowing it)
After the putnpc2 line:

NPC Code:
with(npcs[npcscount-1]) {
setstring this.string,value;
}


MrGannondorf 11-28-2003 11:49 AM

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with(npcs[npcscount-1]) {
setstring this.string,value;
}
:) thanks

Scott 11-28-2003 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Angel
'Ignorance is excusable, willful ignorance is not. Ignorance meaning a lack of specific knowledge. Willful ignorance is the "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up." attitude."




:( :(

Your contracting that completely, Someone was Ignorant about a comment they made about Serverside and Offline. And you made a comment that was in no way friendly, A simple "Serverside Implies it wont work offline". Would have done it. But you had to make a unfriendly comment. I dont know if you cant control being rude or what but I hope you sort it out, Your burning a lot of bridges.


Thanks


Jessica
Angel

who r u nub?

DarkShadows_Legend 11-28-2003 05:22 PM

Wait a second. You are saying that if something is serverside it doesn't work offline. If so then that isn't entirely true because I have used with(getplayer()) for some stuff offline that involved warping myself around. Or does that work both ways?


edit: before the edit I typed something that didn't make sense. My brain has not been functioning properly lately. okay.

Toxin 11-28-2003 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Scott

who r u nub?

*jumps down into a bunker, and waits for Angel to come back and see that* :p

Scott 11-28-2003 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by Toxin


*jumps down into a bunker, and waits for Angel to come back and see that* :p

i think shes a nub and i hate nubs damn nubs there should be a nub test ya eh lol fartknocker nubbie

osrs 11-28-2003 06:54 PM

I think nobody already commented this but you can also use join inside a putnpc2.

Amagius 11-28-2003 09:56 PM

His tone applied dissaproval. \
(Works)
His tone implies dissaproval. /

Sir, there are specific times when you can and can not use them and end up with a logical (ONO) sentence. In your case, if you juxtapositioned applied and implied in your sentence they would have had different meanings.

And Tseng was simply statings that serverside would obviously be offline, thus A -> B.

MrGannondorf 11-29-2003 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by osrs
I think nobody already commented this but you can also use join inside a putnpc2.
Thats what I was doing with it, but I had to pass a few parameters to the npc aswell.



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Originally posted by Amagius
His tone applied dissaproval. \
(Works)
His tone implies dissaproval. /

Sir, there are specific times when you can and can not use them and end up with a logical (ONO) sentence. In your case, if you juxtapositioned applied and implied in your sentence they would have had different meanings.

And Tseng was simply statings that serverside would obviously be offline, thus A -> B.

I think they just had a problem with Tseng (hey, lets call him "Lanceng"!) being blunt.


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