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davidpsy 10-26-2003 08:44 PM

Graal 3.0 use directx 9?
 
I was wondering if you could please setup graal 3.0 (The new fixed one) when its out and finshed so that it uses direct x 9. I might not have problems then. It says it is supposta use direct x 7.

-Ramirez- 10-26-2003 09:20 PM

I'm using DirectX 9.0b, and 3.0 doesn't give me any problems. :(

Python523 10-26-2003 09:25 PM

Re: Graal 3.0 use directx 9?
 
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Originally posted by davidpsy
I was wondering if you could please setup graal 3.0 (The new fixed one) when its out and finshed so that it uses direct x 9. I might not have problems then. It says it is supposta use direct x 7.
It uses DirectX 8, there would be no need to use DirectX9 as the new features on it are really only for advanced 3d games

davidpsy 10-26-2003 10:04 PM

Re: Re: Graal 3.0 use directx 9?
 
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Originally posted by Python523


It uses DirectX 8, there would be no need to use DirectX9 as the new features on it are really only for advanced 3d games

Well I have direct x 9.0b and I have tons of problems with my direct x light and I'm sick of it. btw are they comming out with a new graal 3.0? Beause this new one is very laggy and I dont like it and a lot of the things dont work.

Neoreno 10-26-2003 10:15 PM

DirectX v9.0b is riddled with problems. I actually had to downgrade back to v8 so I could play certain games.

Thought 10-26-2003 10:17 PM

Uhh.... As far as I was aware, Graal 3.0 uses OpenGL, not DirectX.

Neoreno 10-26-2003 10:18 PM

It has options for both.

CheeToS2 10-26-2003 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Neoreno
It has options for both.
OpenGL by default though, I think.

davidpsy 10-26-2003 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Neoreno
DirectX v9.0b is riddled with problems. I actually had to downgrade back to v8 so I could play certain games.
How do I downgrade back to 8.1?

Neoreno 10-26-2003 10:33 PM

Officially: You need to reformat, because DirectX is linked in with the system so much, removing it will cause a catastrophe.

Judge_S 10-26-2003 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy


How do I downgrade back to 8.1?

...You don't, typically.

azuretek23 10-26-2003 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by CheeToS2

OpenGL by default though, I think.

yep, sure does... or else it wouldn't work on linux :D

dx is a feature only on windows so v3 had to be coded around that problem (unlike previous versions) C has more support for openGL anyway ;)

davidpsy 10-27-2003 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Neoreno
Officially: You need to reformat, because DirectX is linked in with the system so much, removing it will cause a catastrophe.
No way in hell am I doing that, I had a dream that my computer was reformated it scared the ****ing **** out of me man. Ah ha I found this site it will remove directx 9 without reformating ^_^.


http://www.dxbuster.de/index_e.html

Loriel 10-27-2003 02:08 AM

It is silly how puny things like that could make a reformat neccessary. Just nuke and reinstall Windows, with older DX, and it should work fine.

Python523 10-27-2003 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
It is silly how puny things like that could make a reformat neccessary. Just nuke and reinstall Windows, with older DX, and it should work fine.
*Shocked that you didn't offer linux as an alternative*

zell12 10-27-2003 02:18 AM

I would of thought a better version of dx would be better? :confused:
But oh well, I don't understand it, I just use opengl, much faster.

Thallen 10-27-2003 03:51 AM

Where do you download v3.0?

davidpsy 10-27-2003 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by Thallen
Where do you download v3.0?

ON KAZAA WHERE ELSE?!?! ;)

Kaimetsu 10-27-2003 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I just use opengl, much faster.
It's not that simple.

Desolator12 10-28-2003 07:14 AM

the newer DXs would be better for if (IIIIFFFFF) graal 3d comes out... i THINK that he's makin that or something...

Judge_S 10-28-2003 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I would of thought a better version of dx would be better? :confused:
Newer versions of some things aren't as compatible as older versions.
For example, "Incredible Machines" was designed for Windows 3.1. It doesn't work well at all with Windows XP. Why? Because it was disigned to work under Windows 3.1.
Therefore, it could be concluded that the latest DirectX wouldn't necessarily be the best for this situation.

Kaimetsu 10-28-2003 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S
Newer versions of some things aren't as compatible as older versions.
For example, "Incredible Machines" was designed for Windows 3.1. It doesn't work well at all with Windows XP. Why? Because it was disigned to work under Windows 3.1.
Therefore, it could be concluded that the latest DirectX wouldn't necessarily be the best for this situation.

Kind of an inapplicable analogy. DX9 is designed for the same platform as DX8 - there aren't going to be any compatibility issues there.

I too hear that DX9 doesn't work well with some games. My only guess would be that they implemented something differently, or used some bad code. It's not really a matter of compatibility.

adam 10-28-2003 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Judge_S

Newer versions of some things aren't as compatible as older versions.
For example, "Incredible Machines" was designed for Windows 3.1. It doesn't work well at all with Windows XP. Why? Because it was disigned to work under Windows 3.1.
Therefore, it could be concluded that the latest DirectX wouldn't necessarily be the best for this situation.

That would be true, if all directx's weren't fully backwords compatible. It was one of thier primary goals in it's creation.

Win 3.1 and windows xp were not made to be backwords compatible. They are completely different incarnations actually.

Judge_S 10-29-2003 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by adam
That would be true, if all directx's weren't fully backwords compatible. It was one of thier primary goals in it's creation.
Win 3.1 and windows xp were not made to be backwords compatible. They are completely different incarnations actually.

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Kind of an inapplicable analogy. DX9 is designed for the same platform as DX8 - there aren't going to be any compatibility issues there.
I meant that as some sort of grasp for those who wouldn't understand.
Obviously something has been done differently. If I implied no backward capabilities, then I'm sorry. I was merely trying to show something along the lines of as things get newer, they will become less and less workable with the finer points of older things. Sure they'll be able to handle the basics of an outdated file, but not necessarily the finest details, as the file was originally designed to use.

azuretek23 10-29-2003 09:06 AM

I think you mean like certain commands and functions are depreceated, they stop making updates to them and replace them with newer functions. But it should run just as well without any problems because of the way DX was made. Everything that was in the original is in the most recent. It's called backwards compatible, most problems occur outside of DX like hardware drivers and such. Anyway, ramble ramble... blah! good day..


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