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I was just wondering, is there any new rule's or old rules what dont count with this new paying for a server stuff, or is it just the same ?

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I would think that people would own all the gfx and levels put on to their server if they payed for it so like if they wanted to use their gfx which was on their server for another game Stefan couldent sue them. Because then your actually paying money for Stefan to legally own your stuff.... That just dont sound right to me.

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I wouldn't be surprised if that were true..

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Playerworld hosting doesn't change the EULA...anything you made is still GOs unless the licensing agreement is changed.

Nah, we've been in arguements about it.
I see it as, if you made it, then it's yours, but if you give it to a playerworld to use, you can't later come and be like "Take it down fool!", that wouldn't be fair. UNLESS however, there was an agreement. Like people who don't want their scripts used later, put things like:
//Used with permission by <maker>
//If requested to remove, it must be removed immediately
---Shifter

Um guys, you're talking about two different things here.

1) Rules owners must follow - You have no rules to follow, anything goes.

2) Rules staff of playerworlds must follow - You have to follow the rules of the owner.

Meaning if the owner wanted to remove their playerworld, they could of course, do just that. But if some guy that made stuff for the owner says "omg no I want to take all my stuff back" he couldn't, if the owner made a rule saying that all submitted stuff becomes property of the pw owner.

The new pay playerworlds are like mini-Graals. All the rules are set by the manager of that world. It's obvious that if you're paying for the world, Graal doesn't own the stuff you put on it. They are simply hosting your stuff, like a webhost hosts websites. I'm pretty sure Unixmad stated this before...

I think you're mistaken but I'd like to hear unix's word about this when he gets back.

Here is my dillema, i manage Aura, but PS owns it, thus i set rules, but i also follow his, he dont like something he removes it...you buy the playerworld you get to do that i guess, LOL...But if my staff made a bunch of npc's or whatnot and quit, then say they want all there stuff removed, i would laugh in there face, they were working for my server, thus everything they submit is now property of Aura...or some other server.

The owner has no rules to follow? Preposterous.

The "owner" is not, in fact, an owner. They do not own the playerworld. This is playerworld renting - the owner does not change; the owner remains Linux Cyberjoueurs. The person whom you refer to as an "owner" is still operating within Graal's terms and conditions, and is still bound by their license agreement, as well as whatever new license agreement may exist for the new PW renting system.

These are not mini-graals. These servers are a part of the graalonline world, and subject to the graalonline rules.

Are you purposely trying to trick all of these new PWs into thinking they can steal levels, graphics, etc; allow language and behavior which is not permitted by the graalonline code of conduct, and other such offenses? Or, are you just not using your brain?

Well said Tseng, saved me some time there.

Um Tseng, then please explain to me why they have a "No-Rules" category for playerworlds on graal.net.

edit: Also, you're not renting the playerworld, you're renting the server that hosts YOUR playerworld.

I think it'd be safe to say that the GraalOnline rules and regulations still apply. You can't go uploading copyrighted music and images, and expect nothing to come of it because you're in a "no rules" category.

I'm not Tseng but I think no-rules means more or less you can do whatever you want aslong as it follow the Code of Conduct I suppose, Sorta like how Graal2000 is

I chalk it up both to poor English & overestimation of the average graalian intelligence (as can be seen in konidias's case). There are obviously sections for which managing your rented playerworld gives you freedoms that managing a normal playerworld does not (such as hiring/firing). However, it clearly does not, as Konidias mistakenly said, give them the ability to break whatever rules they feel like, such as posting pornographic pictures, using obscene language to the players, etc.

You are paying money to rent the playerworld. You are not renting the server that hosts your playerworld - mind you, each new playerworld is not on its own server. That would be rather wasteful.

Christ Tseng, lay the hell off of me. I misread one thing Unixmad says and you blow up on me and insult my intelligence.

I never said I was happy that there would be no rules, and I'm just stating what I think, they could or could not be the facts, so stop riding me about it for crying out loud.

You're acting like a real ass.