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Drakmith 07-25-2003 02:26 AM

Archaic! And a new member O.o!
 
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Well look who it is XP Bloo FINALLY gets to freaking post on this forum after being unable to for... Oh geeze... What.. 2 years?

Anyways.. I work for Archaic now (Private server, if you have Gold time log on and see for yourself O.o) If you don't.. Here's a screenshot of the server.

And proudly.. I've done everything, GFX-wise ^_^

Er.. Well the bodies are edits of G2k2's.. But I just have 0 patience for body making.. So many sprites involved =__=

funnylinkwantsbomys 07-25-2003 04:03 AM

Re: Archaic! And a new member O.o!
 
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Originally posted by Drakmith
Well look who it is XP Bloo FINALLY gets to freaking post on this forum after being unable to for... Oh geeze... What.. 2 years?

Anyways.. I work for Archaic now (Private server, if you have Gold time log on and see for yourself O.o) If you don't.. Here's a screenshot of the server.

And proudly.. I've done everything, GFX-wise ^_^

Er.. Well the bodies are edits of G2k2's.. But I just have 0 patience for body making.. So many sprites involved =__=

sword doesnt look real, the health bar is ugly, the birds shouldn't have such big shadows, the boat looks choppy, the trees look ugly, and the sand has too much grit, and ps: it looks like you took graal kingdoms and changed the graphics a little. We dont need a clone of graal kingdoms o.o

Drakmith 07-25-2003 04:09 AM

...... Thank you for the absolute lack of constructive criticisism...

Tell you what, if you can make the palm trees, that boat, and the sword equally as well or better..

Then you can talk all you want.

Until then, shove your opinion up your nose mister Quotes-Himself-Dual-Sig O_o

zs0 07-25-2003 04:11 AM

Re: Archaic! And a new member O.o!
 
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Originally posted by Drakmith
Well look who it is XP Bloo FINALLY gets to freaking post on this forum after being unable to for... Oh geeze... What.. 2 years?

Anyways.. I work for Archaic now (Private server, if you have Gold time log on and see for yourself O.o) If you don't.. Here's a screenshot of the server.

And proudly.. I've done everything, GFX-wise ^_^

Er.. Well the bodies are edits of G2k2's.. But I just have 0 patience for body making.. So many sprites involved =__=

And the heads, and the hair, and the arms, and legs, and tiles, and many other things I saw that are GK edits, other than that, nice :)

Dude6252000 07-25-2003 04:12 AM

Well, I think it's really damned sexy. 9/10. The only thing I would suggest you improve a bit is the boat's deck, shouldn't it have more walling? :o

Drakmith 07-25-2003 04:17 AM

Re: Re: Archaic! And a new member O.o!
 
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Originally posted by zs0

And the heads, and the hair, and the arms, and legs, and tiles, and many other things I saw that are GK edits, other than that, nice :)

Hair O_o??

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And no, we have short deck wall thingies because we like to push people overboard XD

No, actually when it's completely done we'll have a fancy railing there.. Until then.. *Shoves*

W4nk5t4 07-25-2003 05:31 AM

I hate to say this, but it sucks. You can't read the health bar, the sword looks like a chainsaw (a DULL chainsaw), and the boat is just...uhh

Drakmith 07-25-2003 06:16 AM

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Okay... Fun time then.

Here is how GFX "Critique" is properly done.

W whatsit... "Kenny"

The face in your signature, the left side (Our left) seems a bit too flat. Like he's missing actually defining cheek bones.

The bottom-right side of the chin seems a bit misproportioned also, like you took one serious left-hook or something.

The nose... The shape is all wrong, it looks entirely flat. Shading is a good thing, please remember this.

*Won't even ask why you're telling us what you're listening to*

Background colour.. Orange is original, not many people use it, So there's a creativity point there, but why not Spice it up a bit? That bland orange reminds me of those Supermarkets built in the 60's with "Save" in the name..

Skin tones... Either his skin tone was chosen badly or he's one serious hermit.

And the hair could use more texture as well... As is it's... Just kinda there.

Below I have posted a "Revise" of your Signature, you can IM me if you want to use it O.o (Keyword there... If)

Otherwise.. That (C) is there for good reason buster.

davidpsy 07-25-2003 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Drakmith
Okay... Fun time then.

Here is how GFX "Critique" is properly done.

W whatsit... "Kenny"

The face in your signature, the left side (Our left) seems a bit too flat. Like he's missing actually defining cheek bones.

The bottom-right side of the chin seems a bit misproportioned also, like you took one serious left-hook or something.

The nose... The shape is all wrong, it looks entirely flat. Shading is a good thing, please remember this.

*Won't even ask why you're telling us what you're listening to*

Background colour.. Orange is original, not many people use it, So there's a creativity point there, but why not Spice it up a bit? That bland orange reminds me of those Supermarkets built in the 60's with "Save" in the name..

Skin tones... Either his skin tone was chosen badly or he's one serious hermit.

And the hair could use more texture as well... As is it's... Just kinda there.

Below I have posted a "Revise" of your Signature, you can IM me if you want to use it O.o (Keyword there... If)

Otherwise.. That (C) is there for good reason buster.

I must say your comeback just owned!

Judge_S 07-25-2003 06:48 AM

It looks a lot like Graal Kingdoms.

davidpsy 07-25-2003 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Judge_S
It looks a lot like Graal Kingdoms.
Well yeah Archaic is supposta be like GK but different bloo has done some nice work I like that pirate sword he made.

James 07-25-2003 10:28 AM

I absolutely love everything. I wouldn't change a thing except the border of the boat looks like it was made with clay. :) Great job! 9/10.

Geno 07-25-2003 10:43 AM

bloo, excalent job.
i always have and will like your work :]

Androk 07-25-2003 05:06 PM

Nice work =) *stabs Bloo* BWAHAHHAHA... Bah it was a spoon don't worry :(

syltburk 07-25-2003 05:14 PM

nice, but this server is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy to much graal2002 copy


i had hope for it, but i guess archaic cant get there own ideas

aylad 07-25-2003 06:50 PM

I like it. I do have some suggestions though...

I think the deck of the boat looks good, but the shape of the hull should be smoother. It does kinda look like it's melting.

On the starboard side of the boat, your walls have no thickness. Add thick edges like you see on the port (near) side of the boat.

There's no steering wheel on the boat... if the "house" part is supposed to be the wheelhouse/control room, add a window on the front so the pilot can see out.

The hull board pattern doesn't line up above and below the waterline. If you did this on purpose to make it look realistic, like the water is refracting the light, don't. Some realistic touches don't work with graphics like this.

I don't like the small plants on the beach. Round the bottom more so it doesn't look so flat, and shade the sides so it looks cylindrical.

I give it 7/10. As for the people who complain that it's a GK clone... well, why not? Many of us think that GK is the greatest thing that ever happened to Graal. If it works, use it. If it works and you can't use it, copy it. :D

Dude6252000 07-25-2003 07:03 PM

How come everyone thinks everything is a copy of another server? >>;

marcoR 07-25-2003 08:34 PM

cool
 
Sorry im late on this one.. but that was an awsome retort! you actually put -effrot- into it, and I like the stuff... but why is the little room on the boat's deck so.. round.. and j-e-l-l-o like? otherwise.. I like

DarkVillian 07-25-2003 09:00 PM

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Well Archaic is somewhat nice...even though I got fired for being me? Bloo Kat didnt like me so he fired me...erm anyways

Attached is a screen shot with a few things I found could be better.

1) I hope this building gets fixed? Barrells on the houses? err...right
2) All the buildings on the island so far look the same =/ I hope that changes, also maybe add some windows to them or even othergrowth
3) The roof on them near the top should still be overlapped like how it is at the bottom.
4) Make different building sizes...yes i know these are images but still you could make some with a greater width than the current buildings.
5) The tree... =/ Maybe add some roots sticking out cause the base of the tree is erm...interesting..

Yea Archaic might make it but they might not ever be great because all they do is hire staff of other servers... and give out rc like candy
(They have like 7 guests with RC)
-Ningnong works there
-Chrisz works there
-Alexander works there
-Yes I forget who else.

Anyways good luck

MKSLAYER 07-25-2003 09:42 PM

i live on cape cod and we have some pirate wrecks off the cost and a few i've seen (plus we have a bunch of boats) #1) all boats from that error had gaurd rails on the sides #2) also the cabin would spread usually either from the direct center or it was at the back of the boat and the stearing wheel cas on top of it and the cabin streatched the width of the ship also they would usually feature life boats in the center of the ships tied down with a tarp over them (which was bound with ropes to the deck). i think every thing else got covered XD

Drakmith 07-25-2003 10:33 PM

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1) I hope this building gets fixed? Barrells on the houses? err...right
Ack.. I didn't see those x.x

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2) All the buildings on the island so far look the same =/
Well it IS the begginner island.. It's not like we're sticking the whole server on there you know >.o

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4) Make different building sizes
*Points up*

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Yea Archaic might make it but they might not ever be great because all they do is hire staff of other servers... and give out rc like candy
That... I completely fricking agree with... And if the owner(s) Don't QUIT doing that I'll just drop the project.

I hate logging on and seeing two-five more guests who just act like complete children in the RC and do nothing to help the project what-so-ever

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How come everyone thinks everything is a copy of another server? >>;
*Shrugs* Ehh.. People find it easier to believe that everything is stolen rather then people can actually make things now-a-days.

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There's no steering wheel on the boat...
Yes I'm aware of that... In actuality the scripters have yet to DO anything with the boat.. So if you could swim you would just go right over it Lol...

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The hull board pattern doesn't line up above and below the waterline. If you did this on purpose to make it look realistic, like the water is refracting the light, don't. Some realistic touches don't work with graphics like this.
Would you rather I just make the bottom of it bright frickin' blue like G2k2 did?

Drakmith 07-25-2003 10:37 PM

On a side note however...

I fail to see how LAT Problems, Over-Hirings and things of that nature relate to an opinion on the GFX O_o...


P.S. Is it, or is it not true DarkVillin.. That you have before.. Wiped 2 servers clean?

Maybe that was the reason.

MadWolf 07-25-2003 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Drakmith
On a side note however...

I fail to see how LAT Problems, Over-Hirings and things of that nature relate to an opinion on the GFX O_o...


P.S. Is it, or is it not true DarkVillin.. That you have before.. Wiped 2 servers clean?

Maybe that was the reason.

Below the belt ;o

W4nk5t4 07-26-2003 01:32 AM

Blooguy, the little guy in my sig is supposed to look like that, it's not supposed to look ub3r-3D, etc.

And that screenshot truly does suck :(

MadWolf 07-26-2003 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by W4nk5t4
Blooguy, the little guy in my sig is supposed to look like that, it's not supposed to look ub3r-3D, etc.

And that screenshot truly does suck :(

Oh, so it's supposed to look like crap? Okay.
If that screenshot does "suck", then say why. Or, make better.

DarkVillian 07-26-2003 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Drakmith
On a side note however...

I fail to see how LAT Problems, Over-Hirings and things of that nature relate to an opinion on the GFX O_o...


P.S. Is it, or is it not true DarkVillin.. That you have before.. Wiped 2 servers clean?

Maybe that was the reason.


I have NEVER I will repeat I have NEVER any server clean...You've gotta be nuts...I'd like to know who told you this false information x.x Because out of working on the servers:
Graal 3000 Graal2001 Graal Kingdoms
Delteria Babylon Era
Sanstrata XOne Doragon Koden
Shaded Legend Maloria Bravo Online
Faheria Enigma Tritan
I have never done a server whipe...In fact whenever I quit my job on a server I leave my stuff, If I ever even got fired I would still leave my work. Its childish like, if you want your work back after using them to help the server. So please try to get your facts straight before assuming such rumors.
Thanks.

W4nk5t4 07-26-2003 01:46 AM

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Yeah, it's supposed to look like crap. It was smooth when it was bigger, but I had to make it smaller for Listen-To.com to accept it, and it became all scrunched up. Here is the original image...attached

And that boat is just...uhh...it looks like something straight out of a toliet (it looks like a giant turd)


The "sail" looks like bird crap on paper

There are too many servers like "OMG LETZ HAV A HELTH BAR OV3R TEH HED!!!"

That "little tree" plant or whatever looks like a burned barrel with marijuana growing out of it

The birds look like a baseball where the covering came off after it got hit too hard

How are people supposed to steer that boat?

And last but not least...this is one of Graal Kingdoms' biggest problems...why the hell is there a tree in sand? It doesn't even look like it's in the sand, it's just....there...

DarkVillian 07-26-2003 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

Oh, so it's supposed to look like crap? Okay.
If that screenshot does "suck", then say why. Or, make better.

Yes I totally agree with scott here...That is just really lame to say it sucks when yet there is art work and things that could make it better. You want to help, not put em down so he will not make anymore stuff...

Eric_1337 07-26-2003 02:01 AM

Honestly I think it looks great. The gfx might ressemble GK but I'm sure the plot won't.

Bewitched 07-26-2003 02:03 AM

Erm, I heard that Archaic was going Gold? and Do you pronounce it "Arch-ache" (Sorry if Im being rude? o.O)

Drakmith 07-26-2003 03:22 AM

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Honestly I think it looks great. The gfx might ressemble GK but I'm sure the plot won't.
Graal Kingdoms has a Plot o_o?

All I see when I pay are Pricey Items, a Huge gap between Newbies and Rich folk (There's practically no "Middle" there)

Weird 3D T-rex baddies, and events every so often.

As for a storyline or a basic concept... Not really...

Archaic will be a based mostly around the Pirates, the Noblemen Towns, and the Tribal villages.

With the occasional explosion and/or deamon summoning :grin:

Deek2 07-26-2003 03:42 AM

Seriously, to me this looks like you just drew some sloppy outlines and filled them in with filters. The boat looks horrible, too. The only thing I think looks nice is the GUI.

W4nk5t4 07-26-2003 03:44 AM

Deek speaks.

And that pirates, tribal villages, and nobleman thing...that sounds kind of familiar...most of the servers online, anybody?

DarkVillian 07-26-2003 03:46 AM

I always read it as (Ar-K-ic)

Deek2 07-26-2003 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by DarkVillian
I always read it as (Ar-K-ic)
Arch-kay-ick?

Bewitched 07-26-2003 03:55 AM

Ark-A-Ick

Deek2 07-26-2003 04:01 AM

"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Archaic Ar*cha"ic, a. Gr. 'archai:ko`s old-fashioned, fr.
'archai^os ancient.
Of or characterized by antiquity or archaism; antiquated;
obsolescent.

Dude6252000 07-26-2003 04:47 AM

I always thought it was arch-ee-ack. o_o

Mykel 07-26-2003 05:03 AM

Osrs showed me it, and I was very impressed, although, it does resemble 2k2 a lot, but I don't think that is a bad thing.

Bewitched 07-26-2003 06:20 AM

Bloo PMed me and told me it was Ark-A-Ick


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