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ApeHex 07-13-2003 12:45 PM

Kingdoms is shut down?
 
Ok I just got the message that Kingdoms is shut down while i was playing
wtf?

thelostviking 07-13-2003 01:01 PM

Perhaps stefan is doing a money or complete reset!!!

Ningnong 07-13-2003 01:08 PM

dun dun dun?

ApeHex 07-13-2003 01:15 PM

hopefully
:D
wait
not levels though
-.-

thelostviking 07-13-2003 01:47 PM

I ment character reset
weps - cash - houses

Satrek2000 07-13-2003 01:58 PM

Is it possible that you don't have any houses or any cash worth speaking of, neither items or experience you worked hard to get? It appears to me that you want a reset because others are better than you are, which is quite a bad rp-attitude, methinks. I, for one, want to keep my stuff, and it doesn't really matter to me that some have event items and strong rings - it never kept me from playing and having fun.

thelostviking 07-13-2003 02:13 PM

I wont say that flaming ice dagger and dual rot is that worse =//

HeroHua 07-13-2003 02:22 PM

Maybe a new server? :D

tc_topcat 07-13-2003 02:25 PM

What was the point in having all that stuff then reseting it...i don't think stefan would do that... he'd get far too many complaints.......I for one will complain....people worked hard to get that stuff and paid their money to get the account....if stefan resets it and people loose everything...i hope he will give refunds or give everyone back the hours they have paid for

ApeHex 07-13-2003 02:29 PM

yeah yeah blah blah
90% of the money was glitched and people offered a lot of money to buy things
therefore they didnt work for anything really
;\
im willing to loose all of my stuff (3 rofs 2 blood sabre 16k a house rol roi roy db of gov+5) just so that the economy will even back out again

Borgie 07-13-2003 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by tc_topcat
What was the point in having all that stuff then reseting it...i don't think stefan would do that... he'd get far too many complaints.......I for one will complain....
yea right! i would also complain!
Well i think and hope he is just doing some mayor updates
or there is somthing wrong with the server :\

ariella 07-13-2003 03:00 PM

I AGREE! I don't have much stuff to speak of... probably my most valuable item is an ROT and a ROF and maybe the mith. But I did spend alot of hours leveling !!! And I would like to work towards getting those rare and cool items! And for those of you that got your stuff "the easy way" (what ever that means) Lucky for you. But I bet it doesnt have the value for you as my ROT does for me. Because after days and days of monster killing to get enough plat to even afford one... came the days and days of searching shops and waiting for shops to reset until that one glorius day... there it was in Tanarthia! An ROT and I had the plat to buy it :D That was a great feeling!!! AS far as the popularity of the "Ice Dagger" Lucky for those of you who were smart enough to make one before the store closed! I unfortunately wasn't smart enough to make one... so I lost out! Well live and learn... next time something comes out I'll know to make it even if I dont see a use for it right now.

Wiping everything out and starting all over seems senseless to me, but if it happens then I guess I'll just deal with it. But it seems that I'd again have to have that "Live and Learn attitude in knowing that "If I put such great effort in trying to accomplish my goals again after a server reset... it could all just be wiped again... should everyone decide another reset is needed down the line because someone got something they didn't get!

DragonX 07-13-2003 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by ApeHex
yeah yeah blah blah
90% of the money was glitched and people offered a lot of money to buy things
therefore they didnt work for anything really
;\
im willing to loose all of my stuff (3 rofs 2 blood sabre 16k a house rol roi roy db of gov+5) just so that the economy will even back out again

Are you INSANE? Seriously.
I worked over a YEAR and a half for all my stuff.
I didn't abuse ANYTHING to get to where I am. I am proud of my things. I didn't work for anything? Right, so a year and a half of my life actually leveling up and getting money legitimately is nothing? Pfft. I feel sorry for the people that say 'Oh a reset should happen cause everyone used a bug yada yada yada' because that is 100% untrue and it just shows how ignorant people are.

tc_topcat 07-13-2003 03:20 PM

The people who say its bugged are usually the people who are jealous...they want what others have....If there is a reset I will loose...dual RoF's(i was gonna trade for a RoT to day)
I got plate mail of bewearen, a full helmet, inferno, flaming ice dagger, broadsword, two houses.....i may have good stuff but i done good trades..and got some of them as gifts

Lyndzey 07-13-2003 03:33 PM

I think a new server should just be added.

Eventually, everyone will go from the current server to the new server.

ApeHex 07-13-2003 03:42 PM

DX youre just stubborn and dont realize what im saying so nevermind to you

and lyn
they just need to get kingdoms back up
(-.-)

DragonX 07-13-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by ApeHex
DX youre just stubborn and dont realize what im saying so nevermind to you

and lyn
they just need to get kingdoms back up
(-.-)

I realize what you are saying. Though you are being very ignorant about it. Seriously, if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Would you favor a reset? I think not. I understand level isn't everything and whatnot but playing for a year and a half and then losing everything and I will never get it back? No. Stefan doesn't want anymore strong event items given out, why? Some of the event masters SOLD the items they were given, to players (when they were SUPPOSED to hold an event for it) and no I will not name any names.

Stefan doesn't have to reset the server, the players just have to grow up and stop abusing things and everything will be fine. Graal Kingdoms is pretty much in the hands of the players except for the additions to it. If players didn't abuse things I am sure Stefan would be happy to add more stuff before fully trying to fix it. My guess is that the lack of updates is because instead of just releasing it and then trying to fix the bugs, he rather fix the bugs first then release it. Which is good, but before it was the other way around until players started abusing the bugs instead of reporting them :\

protagonist 07-13-2003 04:03 PM

To be quite honest, newbies have a 10% chance of staying on Kingdoms as opposed to moving to other servers. Kingdoms simply is not a newbie-friendly server, as it is nearly impossible to establish yourself.

tc_topcat 07-13-2003 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
To be quite honest, newbies have a 10% chance of staying on Kingdoms as opposed to moving to other servers. Kingdoms simply is not a newbie-friendly server, as it is nearly impossible to establish yourself.
True...****s come on the island and the training island doesn't help much...they just have to hope some nice person will come and help them out because they come on kingdoms...with not very much and no idea whats going on

tc_topcat 07-13-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by tc_topcat


True...newbies(i had to edit the post because i tried callin newbies the other word and it wouldn't let mr wtf?) on the island and the training island doesn't help much...they just have to hope some nice person will come and help them out because they come on kingdoms...with not very much and no idea whats going on


DragonX 07-13-2003 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
To be quite honest, newbies have a 10% chance of staying on Kingdoms as opposed to moving to other servers. Kingdoms simply is not a newbie-friendly server, as it is nearly impossible to establish yourself.
I seriously doubt though, that they would pay for gold or VIP time and then just play another server..that's a waste of money..lol

thelostviking 07-13-2003 04:58 PM

New server would be cool, like keeping current as beta server where everything stays like it is now and using the other as final server.

UNPTWOPWINNER 07-13-2003 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
To be quite honest, newbies have a 10% chance of staying on Kingdoms as opposed to moving to other servers. Kingdoms simply is not a newbie-friendly server, as it is nearly impossible to establish yourself.
I know I'm going to regret saying this, but, just about every newbie I've come acrossed I've helped. They always ask a simple question or ask for a little bit of help. Of course I'm just one person but still =/
Just 2 days ago I helped a guy raise his physique to level 9 and helped another newbie with farming advice...oh well :(

And about the complete reset, stop thinking the worse. The server's down...leave it at that. A few hours of no Kingdoms and you guys are already arguing...see what Kingdoms does!?

Tim26 07-13-2003 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by UNPTWOPWINNER

I know I'm going to regret saying this, but, just about every newbie I've come acrossed I've helped. They always ask a simple question or ask for a little bit of help. Of course I'm just one person but still =/
Just 2 days ago I helped a guy raise his physique to level 9 and helped another newbie with farming advice...oh well :(

And about the complete reset, stop thinking the worse. The server's down...leave it at that. A few hours of no Kingdoms and you guys are already arguing...see what Kingdoms does!?

Graal = Addiction
Drugs = Addiction

See what they have in common?

UNPTWOPWINNER 07-13-2003 05:26 PM

Would this make Stefan some kind of Drug lord?:megaeek:

Satrek2000 07-13-2003 05:28 PM

I try to help newbies whenever possible (just in the old classic days), as long as they're polite and don't shout at me (quite a few do). I just refuse to help people level, as nobody helped me and I didn't ask.

I just feel like saying that I agree with those who think those asking for a reset are just jealous of those who were early and got chances they won't get anymore - and I don't mean bugs and glitches only, but events.

TripleE 07-13-2003 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tim26


Graal = Addiction
Drugs = Addiction

See what they have in common?

yes. Isnt it sad.Graal ruins nice friendly social kids,and turns them into nerds. :[

Muha_builder 07-13-2003 06:15 PM

satrek you kinda used a horse to level up O_o

Tim26 07-13-2003 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by TripleE

yes. Isnt it sad.Graal ruins nice friendly social kids,and turns them into nerds. :[

Im not even close to a nerd , but im still quitting graal, it messed up my grades from all a's to a and b's, it took away my studying time, so its time to stop playing graal and focus on my education, so later i can have my own "Graal" sorta speaking.
But i still want to work on 2001 after i quit and help unixmad with translation.

TripleE 07-13-2003 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Muha_builder
satrek you kinda used a horse to level up O_o
And....?What's wrong with that?


Tim26: Your lucky unixmad lets you help out. he ignores every chance I try to help him out. :rolleyes:

Muha_builder 07-13-2003 06:22 PM

well triple if you are on a horse you cant be hurted,while other people not on a horse have to fight for there lives:eek:

Satrek2000 07-13-2003 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Muha_builder
satrek you kinda used a horse to level up O_o
Last I heard, Stefan said it was okay as you can get hit by magic - which is quite funny in immense maps, as I can assure you. Anyway, it isn't a bug, and I've killed quite a few lords and rexes on foot.

Muha_builder 07-13-2003 06:28 PM

i know but in my eyes it isnt fair so you shouldnt be saying that you never give help with leveling because you did it "the hard way" i must admit i used serval tricks to level aswell before monster could eat things you could build walls of items protecting you but if the trexes got stuck in the wall you could kill them with bullets O_o

Satrek2000 07-13-2003 06:41 PM

So where's the difference, between these walls you used and the horses today? As stated, you can still get hurt on them. And I don't like people leveling because I think the game isn't about leveling up but about playing. I don't "level up," I play, and leveling up just happens while playing. Anyway, nobody prevents you from using a horse yourself. So it's your decision to use one or not. Either way, it has no influence how good or bad you're doing as far as the game's essence is concerned.

ApeHex 07-13-2003 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by DragonX


I realize what you are saying. Though you are being very ignorant about it. Seriously, if you were in my shoes, what would you do? Would you favor a reset? I think not. I understand level isn't everything and whatnot but playing for a year and a half and then losing everything and I will never get it back? No. Stefan doesn't want anymore strong event items given out, why? Some of the event masters SOLD the items they were given, to players (when they were SUPPOSED to hold an event for it) and no I will not name any names.

Stefan doesn't have to reset the server, the players just have to grow up and stop abusing things and everything will be fine. Graal Kingdoms is pretty much in the hands of the players except for the additions to it. If players didn't abuse things I am sure Stefan would be happy to add more stuff before fully trying to fix it. My guess is that the lack of updates is because instead of just releasing it and then trying to fix the bugs, he rather fix the bugs first then release it. Which is good, but before it was the other way around until players started abusing the bugs instead of reporting them :\


seems as youre being the ignorant one
i said if there was any type of reset

Muha_builder 07-13-2003 06:47 PM

well dont say than you wont give ****s any help cause you didnt ask for it, its not like you needed helped on that horse nothing could hit you except for demons cyclop evil devils/heavils and that wall was nothing i mean, it was deleted on the moment i restarted and no the wall was not the same O_o cause there was only 1 trex in the entire game that would get stuck in the wall

Satrek2000 07-13-2003 06:56 PM

That there was only one rex doesn't change the general idea - and all's just a matter of perspective. Anyway, I never said I wouldn't offer newbies any help - I said I don't like helping others leveling up. I do try to help everyone in need with advice and comments. Also, I never said that I got all my exp on the back of a horse. I've been to level 10 before horses were released, and I didn't get my physique to level 10 on a horse either.

Tim26 07-13-2003 06:58 PM

Im wondering.. Why doesnt everytime something like this happens stefan doesnt post up on the forums what is going on

tc_topcat 07-13-2003 07:05 PM

with another online game i play there is a bit u can go to and it tells you what has happened..but here no news at all its frustrating...anybody any idea how long it'll be untill its back up?

DragonX 07-13-2003 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by ApeHex



seems as youre being the ignorant one
i said if there was any type of reset

How am I being ignorant when you are the one that said 90% of people abused a bug. That was totally wrong and you should get your facts straight before posting *****ic things.


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