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protagonist 06-01-2003 08:33 PM

p00t
 
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p00 or p00t?


1-10


[EDIT]Ugh, forgot to detail the water more x.x[/EDIT]

Kramer 06-01-2003 09:02 PM

Some Tile errors on a tree, and on the cliff thing, anywy, prety good, add water detail and 6/10

Spark910 06-01-2003 09:24 PM

nice level, although the shallow light blue water could be a bit more interesting, but overall its nice.

And: poot? Is that a new word I missed.

protagonist 06-01-2003 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Spark910
nice level, although the shallow light blue water could be a bit more interesting, but overall its nice.

And: poot? Is that a new word I missed.

Well, the level could be poo, or it could be p00t.

finChY 06-01-2003 11:03 PM

Well it isnt to awsome,but it isnt bad. I guess it's ok. Add more detail.

tlf288 06-01-2003 11:25 PM

Use an original style, not one that is on every playerworld.

draygin 06-02-2003 04:55 PM

The level shows some talent. But overall its boring and bland way over done. It doesnt show any uniquness. As for mistakes. You mentioned the water that does need some work, also the sand its bland needs more mix up of all the sand tiles not just one or two. All in all I would give it a 6/10 With the water and sand fixed up it could easily be a 7 possible an 8.

Also p00t making up words like this is just retarded it might have been popular a couple of years ago but any more its considered lame.

protagonist 06-02-2003 06:28 PM

No 00t words are considered popular anymore, I did it for fun.

draygin 06-02-2003 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
No 00t words are considered popular anymore, I did it for fun.
Well then consider my point m00t ;)

Eric_1337 06-04-2003 01:08 AM

3/10

No time to comment, just do something better ;)

protagonist 06-04-2003 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337
3/10

No time to comment, just do something better ;)



What the heck, why would you bother rating if you don't tell me why you gave me that terrible score?

funnylinkwantsbomys 06-04-2003 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist




What the heck, why would you bother rating if you don't tell me why you gave me that terrible score?

what he is saying is that it sucks so badly it cant be uprisen from the hellish grave that it sleeps

Spark910 06-04-2003 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist
No 00t words are considered popular anymore, I did it for fun.
That can easily be solved with 3's instead of 0's!

w33t!
r33t!
h33t!
p33t!
s33t!
l33t!
c33t!
v33t!
b33t!
n33t!
m33t!

0_0

protagonist 06-04-2003 09:49 PM

7ru3.

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Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
what he is saying is that it sucks so badly it cant be uprisen from the hellish grave that it sleeps

That doesn't explain why.

Eric_1337 06-04-2003 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
what he is saying is that it sucks so badly it cant be uprisen from the hellish grave that it sleeps
Exactly.

protagonist 06-05-2003 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


Exactly.


Don't post in my posts. Ever.

If you are going to go giving ratings around irresponsibly without giving the slightest hint to what is wrong with the level, then go away. You are being malicious, not helpful, and it's a waste of server space.

Eric_1337 06-05-2003 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist



Don't post in my posts. Ever.

If you are going to go giving ratings around irresponsibly without giving the slightest hint to what is wrong with the level, then go away. You are being malicious, not helpful, and it's a waste of server space.

you wanna know why your level doesn't look very good?

shore tiles have no detail
water has god aweful shallow water
grass detail is hideous
Tile errors up the ass
trees are ugly
way too much water stuff


Everything that went wrong, did.
Happy, okay? I could go deeper but I don't feel like wasting my time explaining even more as to what you did wrong.

draygin 06-05-2003 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist



Don't post in my posts. Ever.

If you are going to go giving ratings around irresponsibly without giving the slightest hint to what is wrong with the level, then go away. You are being malicious, not helpful, and it's a waste of server space.

He's welcome to post where ever he wants. You have no right to dictate where he can respond his opinions are just as valid as any other. If you wanted more response you should specifically say that in your original post instead of being an ass.

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Originally posted by protagonist
p00 or p00t?


1-10



No where in this post does it ask for why you're giving the rating that you are. It only asks for you to rate it. He did just that and you go getting all anal about it because he doesnt like it. If you wanted opinions on why you should ask and not throw a complete fit when he doesnt.

protagonist 06-05-2003 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by draygin

No where in this post does it ask for why you're giving the rating that you are. It only asks for you to rate it. He did just that and you go getting all anal about it because he doesnt like it. If you wanted opinions on why you should ask and not throw a complete fit when he doesnt.

What is the point of posting a low rating if you aren't going to give what's wrong with it? Intelligent people generally point out what is wrong with the level when they give a low rating. Of course intelligence may be too much to expect from one such as he, since he found time to make two short posts to cause bad air instead of one post to give tips.

Yes, I can tell him not to post in my messages. If he does, I'll simply flame him until either the thread is deleted or he stops.

draygin 06-05-2003 06:31 PM

Who is the fool the fool who posts or the one who attacks him for doing so?

Regardless of wether or not its helpful to you for people to give examples its not necessary to rate a post. Had he given a 10/10 and not given any reasons to why it was good you wouldn't care you would just be happy with it. If you wanted him to specify you should have asked in your original post. Regardless of if he was comming off as a **** or not.

He can respond if he pleases you have no rights in ordering him not to as this is a public forum. If you dont like what he says just ignore him and dont respond. If some one is trying to instigate something they do it because they expect some sort of retort back such is the way with trolls. If this was truly his purpose and you didnt respond back then he would go in search of new prey. But if you go around flaming him for responding to posts in a public forum dont be surprised if people flame you in return for flaming.

protagonist 06-05-2003 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
Had he given a 10/10 and not given any reasons to why it was good you wouldn't care you would just be happy with it.

Good ratings mean that there is nothing really wrong with your level. Bad ratings mean there is, and should include explanations. He's an idiot, has he ever even posted a level?

konidias 06-05-2003 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
He can respond if he pleases you have no rights in ordering him not to as this is a public forum. If you dont like what he says just ignore him and dont respond.
I know you're trying to be all righteous here, but you're being a hypocrite. Just as you say the Eric_1337 guy has the right to say what he wants about the level, protagonist has the right to tell him to not post here. That doesn't mean that Eric won't post here, but still, you need to listen to your own advice, because you come off sounding rather stupid. That is my opinion, if you don't like it, well... you can make a reply with your own opinion and I will gladly not give a crap. :)

By the way, the level is decent, but it could use some work. Yeah, it's rather bland and boring, not very unique. You have one of the treetops too high off the tree, and yeah, the water needs detailing. All and all, it's rather plain, and I mean, I don't know about everyone else, but when I'm walking through nothing but nature levels, I really don't pay that much attention to the grass and cliffs and stuff. As long as they aren't full of errors, it will look fine. Just make some unique stuff in the level as well. Stuff that will draw the player's attention towards certain areas.

Eric_1337 06-05-2003 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by konidias


I know you're trying to be all righteous here, but you're being a hypocrite. Just as you say the Eric_1337 guy has the right to say what he wants about the level, protagonist has the right to tell him to not post here. That doesn't mean that Eric won't post here, but still, you need to listen to your own advice, because you come off sounding rather stupid. That is my opinion, if you don't like it, well... you can make a reply with your own opinion and I will gladly not give a crap. :)

By the way, the level is decent, but it could use some work. Yeah, it's rather bland and boring, not very unique. You have one of the treetops too high off the tree, and yeah, the water needs detailing. All and all, it's rather plain, and I mean, I don't know about everyone else, but when I'm walking through nothing but nature levels, I really don't pay that much attention to the grass and cliffs and stuff. As long as they aren't full of errors, it will look fine. Just make some unique stuff in the level as well. Stuff that will draw the player's attention towards certain areas.

Protagonist can say all he wants, but he can't control what my actions are. I'm sure draygin was mainly unhappy by the way he said it, not that he can't say it. Being a complete ass and trying to force someone off their thread in a very disturbing way... it's going to turn some heads and complain.

I have the right to post as much as I want on a reply. It's not your decision.

draygin 06-05-2003 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by konidias
I know you're trying to be all righteous here, but you're being a hypocrite. Just as you say the Eric_1337 guy has the right to say what he wants about the level, protagonist has the right to tell him to not post here. That doesn't mean that Eric won't post here, but still, you need to listen to your own advice, because you come off sounding rather stupid. That is my opinion, if you don't like it, well... you can make a reply with your own opinion and I will gladly not give a crap. :)

I'm not being a hypocrite, I'm stating facts. He has every right to post his comments in a public forum. Protaganist has no rights telling him he's not allowed to because he is. I'm sorry if this concept is to complex for you to grasp Konidias. The only one sounding stupid is you by opening your mouth and inserting your foot in it.

protagonist 06-05-2003 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337
Being a complete ass and trying to force someone off their thread in a very disturbing way...
As opposed to only being a complete ass, like you were being and continue to be?


As for konidias, thank you for posting that. It'll give me something to actually work on.

osrs 06-05-2003 08:23 PM

I like the level. 7/10
Add some lights,would be better.

Eric_1337 06-05-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by protagonist


As opposed to only being a complete ass, like you were being and continue to be?


As for konidias, thank you for posting that. It'll give me something to actually work on.

You are so right! Posting my opinion is making me look like an ass! wow, you really got me.

I mean it's the exact same as trying to get someone off their posted thread because their opinion isn't to their liking!

Azrael528 06-06-2003 12:28 AM

its funny when people argue, they all sound like asses

Eric_1337 06-06-2003 05:00 AM

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Originally posted by Azrael528
its funny when people argue, they all sound like asses
Hey! You wanna fight? Stop arguing!

DarkShadows_Legend 06-06-2003 04:34 PM

- Some parts of the level seem a bit plain. I think the pond water could use a bit more detailing. There's also a few tile errors around some of them.
- There are some tile errors here and there around some of the sand/grass parts.
- The cliffs are well done, but again many tile errors on them, especially the one near the bottom.
- Some of the trees don't look right. I realized they were npc's. You might want to realign them a bit, especially the one on the top left where you can see some of the normal tree with the edges missing.

Rating: 3/10

If you fix it up a bit in some of those areas then it will be a very nice level. :)

protagonist 06-06-2003 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


You are so right! Posting my opinion is making me look like an ass! wow, you really got me.

No, posting a low score and "not having time to comment" makes you look like an ass.
I want people to tell me why my level isn't a "good" one in their eyes so I can improve it. 3/10 just tells me that you didn't like the level, it doesn't tell me why. You could just disagree with other posts I've made on the forums and decided to retort in with a low score for all I know.

draygin 06-06-2003 09:16 PM

Once again... thats all you asked for. If they liked the level or not with the rating. You didnt ask for advice on what was wrong with it or how it could be improved. Yes if some one wanted to be helpful they would have posted what could be improved. However if they wanted to merely state that they didnt like it they would do so since its all you asked for. Is there some part of this concept that you're having trouble with? If you want opinions about your level state so in your original post. After you requested it he even did eventually state why although it wasnt very nice in how he did it. In which your right he came off as an ass with that post but not his original one how ever.

Eric_1337 06-07-2003 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist


No, posting a low score and "not having time to comment" makes you look like an ass.
I want people to tell me why my level isn't a "good" one in their eyes so I can improve it. 3/10 just tells me that you didn't like the level, it doesn't tell me why. You could just disagree with other posts I've made on the forums and decided to retort in with a low score for all I know.

didn't I post why I didn't like it? I think I did. You can't call me an ass because I did post it when I did have some time too. Sorry charlie, you're outta luck.

Milkdude99 06-07-2003 05:28 AM

5/10 Bland level nothing stands out on it. Levels like this can be found on any server. If you want a good score make something that stands out as different from what you can see everywhere else.

Azrael528 06-07-2003 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


You are so right! Posting my opinion is making me look like an ass! wow, you really got me.


youre only an ass for putting leet in your account name, hehe

dorfindel 06-07-2003 02:19 PM

Well, the brown sandish thing in the water isn't tiled in correctly, but I think that's because you forgot to detail the water...which I will leave alone for now. I personally think there should be a bit more deep in places though...Blah I don't like those water tiles..the other ones are better o_o...but whatever.

Also, the grass tiling is terrible. It's just plain green with tall grass. Way too booooriiing. There's a little other stuff...but barely any.

Oh yeah, 3/10.

Also, lots of tile errors in the cliffs.

And one thing that I really hate is using images for trees...just tile them damn it. maybe it doesn't look as good or whatever, but I could tell from that screen that you used treetop.gif...and that is definitely a bad thing. Trees that you can walk behind are stupid, it doesn't fit in with the rest of the way the classic worlds are setup, and you didn't even do it right.

It's not really bad though.

Eric_1337 06-07-2003 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Azrael528


youre only an ass for putting leet in your account name, hehe

=-o! You're right =*(

protagonist 06-08-2003 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337


didn't I post why I didn't like it? I think I did. You can't call me an ass because I did post it when I did have some time too. Sorry charlie, you're outta luck.

I will call you an infectious ass just like I call tlf88 an infectious pickle.


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