Good old Samurai
 

It has recently come to my attention, that the kingdoms are being rather hypocriticle. Now Since Samurai contains many of the powerfull vets They, or shall i say, we are under attack verbally by hypocrits.

I have just recently realized, that Every , and i mean EVERY person i boot out of samruai for lack to comply with RPing or Murder/wreckless PKing, has been RE recruited into Either Forest or Dustari!

For instance:
why yes mike, you were, but it seems the "great RP nation" of forest was interested in your lacking ability to rp.


Well put great RPer of dustari.
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Despite Samurais efforts under my leadership months ago to liberate Dustari (along with zormite) from Forest contoll, They seem to show a very low lack of grattiude. Quite low, in fact offensive.

You all need to stop whining before i bring up any more of my problems with all of you (and i have plenty plenty, and lots of dirt on most of you as well) . Samurai wil not stand for such Crap while im in leadership.




"You're probably the best leader they've ever had"

im well aware of this.

I have plenty to add, but i will add more to my Complaints about you all, as you bring them up.
Please feel free to contradict anything i have said, so that i may go on.

and for everyoens information, we do have RP standerds, basicly consisting of , no tallking out of character, and we have laws of no PKing and no stealing, however if you go over our heads/laws/court system to solve these problems yourslef, we will take it offensivly.

Yeah, I remember that day... We had it all planned out too, but it seems we were tricked :\... I should be the King of Forest right now, not you... I would make it a GOOD Dwarf kingdom, but noo... >:[....

Re: Good old Samurai
 

If I'm reading that right, your saying Astri was in control of Dustari & Zormite? :|

That never happened. True, Dustari was overran by Astri but Zurkiba did not impose his laws over that kingdom, he fought that war "to put them in their place" in his view. Because he felt they were being overly disrespectful toward him.

That and Astri never invaded Zormite succesfuly. We were the equivelant of Great Britain during world war 2. :)

Personally i have nothing against zormite of course especially not against youuuu ::kiss::

but you must admit you were effected by it and probably couldnt have defeted pirate and forest...without us..

But, no need to thank me, and im sure everyone has a different version of the story. heh (very sure about that actually )

Read this from the bottom go up, sad thing is he asked me to allie with them the day before.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:21:12 PM):
((I usually give a random role in case the last person I tested helped them. They go from pirates to priest, from explorers to fishermen x.x))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:20:25 PM):
anyway, post your defenses on that Forum if you have any, other than that im not in the mood to talk right now


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:20:06 PM):
so you seee if they have the ability to say "yar im a pirate"
Try having them role play a samruai, then talk.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:19:24 PM):
((No -_- Most of the times I take them to battle arena and give them a role to play such as an explorer and I'll be a pirate or something and I have them
actually rp with me then test their fighting skills. Ask almost any of my new members.))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:18:22 PM):
ah so you jsut quiz their knowledge and dont care if they actually do it, ok i see now, maybe ill come up with an inconsistant way of testing people to shut up all
this *****ing, good plan


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:16:42 PM):
See for your self


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:15:45 PM):
I wouldn't call it horrible but....some of the members are bit weird x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:15:15 PM):
Yes, I am. And I just quit Samurai, because it's a horrible kingdom =)


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:14:49 PM):
Ok x.xAre you also willing to rp correctly at all times on tag while speaking IC?

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:14:11 PM):
Yes, and I strongly wish to quit. I'll quit now :O


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:13:54 PM):
You're currently in Samurai too x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:13:27 PM):
Ah...I'm not a Shaman then...


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:13:07 PM):
I'll make you a Nessa'Quessir
Shamen are lv14+ people in wisdom x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:12:24 PM):
I like Shaman or Nessa'Quessir.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:09:07 PM):
Ahh...very good.
Look at the ranks in the kingdom GUI, click "view" to see the english versian of elvish ones. Tell me which you like best.

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:08:13 PM):
IC is In Character, meaning to roleplay with others who are also in character.Example: *Bows respectfully* Greetings, my lord.
OOC is Out of Character, meaning the player is not currently roleplaying. An example: ((does anyone know where I could get some dievil's feet?))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:06:27 PM):
Tell me what's IC, OOC and give me examples of both.
Define, not only unabbreviate.

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:05:56 PM):
Yes.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:05:39 PM):
Can you rp?

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:04:46 PM):
Hey, could I please join Forest?


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:07:34 PM):
((I know I've recruited some Samurai such as Jin but they left at their own will, they just messaged me one day "Can I join Forest? I left Samurai" - or something of that sort. Took my rp test, passed and got in))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:07:17 PM):
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=44025


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:07:14 PM):
i just dont care anymore eh, you can keep him, and the rest of them matter fact i
might as well direct every bad RPer to you since you seem to want our members out so much so that you can pick them up


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:05:32 PM):
Who? x.x


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:04:46 PM):
could have swonr Alex left Forest, Konidas, never liked him
anyway waht i said is SAMURAI BOOTED HIM, AND THEN YOU RECRUITED HIM


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:02:18 PM):
((Sorry, I was in a dungeon. No, ALL my members had to take rp test. First of all, I didn't boot that person, 2nd of all before anyone is removed I'm suppose to be told first (unless Excalibur boots them whom I trust most on
this game.) Thirdly, I no-one showed me anything about him calling someone else a "punk ass muda****er" on tag, if he did do it IC then he would be penalised, if it were OOC what can I do except laugh? Lower dirt? Have you looked at the quality of my members? Almost all are high staff for classic, here or bomy moon and the ones that aren't are awesome rpers and fighters. Example: Com013, Tyhm, Excalibur, Konidias, Alex_6, myself
and loads more x.x You guys take my rejects *cough* the dude I just told you about and jess1w1lson are prime examples. Don't try to start anything with
me, it's not like I hate you or your kingdom e_e))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:47:46 PM):
Guard Mike Elewen (Forest) (4/4/2003 4:40:46 PM):
ok i was booted for not talkin IC on tag. well this kid just called me "a punk ass muda****er" on tag
you take lower dirt than we accept into samruai, you reall dissapoint me


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:47:31 PM):
so..what are you out to do? have us boot all our samurai then re recurite them
into forest? is that the little plan?


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:45:31 PM):
((Ok ^_^))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:48 PM):
((you will please notify me when you see him on again, thank you))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:26 PM):
((it is a privilage to be in samurai, and not to be abused))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:03 PM):
((Well he will be booted, simply for asking to leave samurai))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:40:38 PM):
((Don't remember x.x ))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:39:59 PM):
what was that persons account name?

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:42 PM):

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:25:47 PM):
Cause you can't rp.
Stop friggin annoying me.

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:22:26 PM):
why cant i join dude

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:19:18 PM):
plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:18:10 PM):
plz let me in

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:17:31 PM):
c,mon plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:16:33 PM):
are u going to let me in plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:15:18 PM):
plz plz plz let me join

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:14:43 PM):
just let me join plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:13:43 PM):
idk wat it means but my friend is in forest and i want to join so let me plz

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:09:41 PM):
Tell me what's IC, OOC and give examples of both.

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:07:49 PM):
im not that great idk how to prove it but i now wat it means role
playing but plz let me join i want to so bad

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:06:45 PM):
Prove it :)

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:05:47 PM):
pretty good i guess

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:05:32 PM):
Can you rp?

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:05:04 PM):
can i join forest plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:04:29 PM):
can i plz join forest

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:03:36 PM):
can i join forest


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:28 PM):
((look at this, bottom go up))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:15 PM):
((Dude, PLEASE try to recruit people with ATLEAST a friggin IQ higher than that
of mustards. It's only for the better of the game!))

Interesting that Guy (who is well-known for his RPing abilities, and also for his hatred of those who don't RP (Namely, Samurai)), was singled out in this manner.

I'd also like to point out that your prince, Zalinto Gorohke, said that it's alright to PK people if both are on tag (without adverse RP consequences) because 'battle mode is for battling'.

We bring these "rejects" because we believe everyone is welcome to a kingdom -- a home. We will not tolerate scaming, pking, or anything to violate the rules, however, we will teach every single member the rules and the basics of RPing. Everyone deserves a chance.

Forest and Samurai will never be allies, Dustarians are noble, therefor gained our trust. As they have gained ours. You should try other stragities for keeping members, mabey not booting them out if they make a mistake but just tell them not to do it again and show them what they did wrong and how to fix it.

Chris, no offence but did your post have a point other than showing some of our chat history? heh


And whats with this "yar im a pirate" oh i can rp now. ok greaatttt.

Like ive said a million times, anyone can rp an elf, a pirate, or some medival knight dustari.

i dont gp "out of my way" to pk people, i only do it for self defense or they called me a bish on tag thats all ive attacked people for, i don feel its necissary to talk to the king b/c i like to see things get done, (not saying you cant get stuff done, but other kings ive talked to wont do crap) ive cut WAY down on pkling

Zalinto, if you would stop recruiting people without a care for if they can RP or not, these problems would stop. Samurai has become the kingdom for people who do not rp, the kingdom for people who just want to pk and scam and call people ****s because they aren't level 15+.

It's scientifcly proven you will remember the bad encounters more than the good, even if the ratio is 50/50

think about that before passing judgment.

have a nice day

This is pathetic. My god, just shut up. e.e

Forest recruits people that can and cannot rp. We teach the ones who cannot rp and give them a promotion when they pass the trials. The ones who pass the first trial (the ones who rp good) will be promoted right away to a position like Engineer, Farmer, Soldie, Knight, such things like that. And as they advance their skills as well as their rp skills, they will get further promotions.

Zormite and Samurai recruit for power. The rank system is based solely on level, and not on the skill. x.x However, I do agree level should play a part in recruiting to a certian rank, but it should not be the only thing.

You know what, all samurai is is a ****ing pk happy guild, its not a kingdom it doesnt work like a kingdom, for god sakes they get away with everything, you cant consider Samurai as a kingdom, its just a messed up guild.

your just mad because everytime u smack me i pk your guts out =/ shut up >=[ Samurai RP's very well, although you fail too see it because your still trying to get me back. Forest are th epking ones, i walk into the ost office to sell and i got Chris, Mike, Alex and some other dude trying to kill me, WTF is that?

I'm agreeing with Draco.. Samurai is just as good at RPing as the other kingdoms - meaning that maybe 1/5 of them can RP. I also seem to remember half of Samurai chasing me trying to kill me for no real reason...that was awhile ago though so alot of those people might've left by now.

This is why all the kingdom leaders should be replaced by people who understand macroscopic RPing.

they all followed alex to forest, wherever alex goes, they all go

The point of the history Reaper was to defend myself against the insults you tossed towards my kingdom rp wise. The history includes members I accept, reject and why/how I recruit them with backup.

Also errm...Kaimetsu, not all the leaders need to be replaced, especially this one.

Haha Denori, where did you pull that one from? I had 15 active members on my 2nd day as King. Alex was only recruited two days ago and why would they? It's not like he's the strongest person around. The main reason that I figure most of these people joined is cause of the new ranks I made (in Forest you could rp as practically anything but under a human or elf race) and the recognition of the efforts made to keep good role-playing which would include events such as the "Ceremony of The Gods" with valuable prizes =O Alex along with many other powerful players did influence quite a few others to join, it's like a domino effect.

Example 1: Tyhm was in Forest so Com013 followed (or so I assume)

Example 2: Zurkiba, Excal, Me, Tseng (Tseng is now in Dustari though.)

Example 3: Alex, Taharu, Jin

After being publicly seen with a large amount of good quality members (both rp and power wise) we became more and more recognised and now everyone wants to join ;)

"Forest recruits people that can and cannot rp"

I disagree.

Those words came from Excal not me! I don't recruit people that can't rp x.x Look at the message logs, it would show you a dude from Samurai asking me who couldn't rp and I told him no and that was the reason X_X

I usually ensure they could rp first *Refer to message history also*

The closest thing to someone that can't rp at all that I'll recruit would be someone that says IC means to roleplay with others who are also in character x_x

Your test leaves something to be desired. Knowing the meanings of acronyms is hardly the same thing as being a good roleplayer.

With Dustari, I ensure people know not only what the acronyms stand for, but the concepts behind them.

I've been bugged to hand out recruit rights to others - but I will not. I cover the recruiting simply because it's something I'm reasonably good at, and something I don't trust others with.

It's very difficult to tell whether someone understands or simply parrots something they've been told before, but I do my best. Granted, a couple slip through occassionally that do not understand, but I make it my goal to get them to understand. I also am quite apt to recruit someone if they show a willingness to learn, a desire for knowledge, and who seems to be a good person.

I stress RPing as well as honor.

That seems to be working; look at how well Dustari's turned out.

And, it must be kept in mind that those who don't understand RPing, but really would like to, should also be given a chance to learn...that is one of the main points of the lowest rank...to give them the chance to learn both the art of RPing as well as to learn how to fight in-game...was like that at 2k1, and I'm happy to continue that tradition.

As for Samurai, no offense, but Rahz, you call the rest of us hypocrites, while being one yourself. You speak of removing people for violating rules, pking, scamming, etc...Yet why does Samurai continue to do so?

Why do you raise a middle finger to the whole RPing community by being

Shogun "Stefan I need a restore It's been two months" (Samurai)

A great name for RPing =) I'm sure you guys have fun RPing, which you people are so insistent that you do. Does someone play Stefan? Do you RP that you get mad at Stefan? How does this work? I'm quite confused.

*bemused smile*

In short, you name everyone else a hypocrite, when you cannot provide solid evidence; and in fact, all the evidence points to yourself as the hypocrite.

And as I've said before, I'm not going to start an RP war over someone PKing - That's just stupid. And I'm pretty sure the rest of the kingdom leaders (except for Samurai) would agree with me on that. Also, I don't think any of the other kingdom leaders would disagree that it's time Samurai had a civil war and some new leadership. One that would actually follow the basic RPing rules.

I'm just growing so disgusted...

I agree totally with tseng, and i actually think, contrary to you view, that it is quite easy to Rp a Samurai...

Kaimetus: *Gives reference to message history with Reaper again and to one of Reaper's post.*

I also test their rp skills by giving them a random role to play and they must be successful in order to get recruited or have atleast some what of a good idea on what they're doing. Also...I make them define the acronym, not only unabbreviate and give examples before they could even try to be tested with a random role for recruitment. Heh...sadly I've never heard of a practise as close to this one on Samurai but Reaper still has the nerve to mock my efforts ._.

Kingdoms Frankly isnt an RP server, the only reason im even having this argument is because i DO enforce it, but still hear *****ing as if you all are better than me. And everyone knows im the best leader any nation could have of course. (and modest too)


Exactlly


however like i said, it isnt an RP server. And if you all want to ***** about rping so much, go make your own rp server. and boot everyone off of it who dont rp.

However those of us on graal kingdoms will do the best to our limited abilitys (as now we have no jailing or assassination powers (least no exp loss)) to maintain a limited standerd of RPing and playing Kingdoms, the paid server.

as for chris
What goes around, comes around

and stop warping your kingdoms minds through toguilds to follow your belife system, i can do the same and try to have my kingdom Flame you in pms with usless garbadge as well.

i know im good at it arent i.


I hardly run around flaming every other kingdom for their mishaps, untill this post. I know, im so kind.

Actually the corrrect nick was "I need restore for 2 PAID months -ooc" Nothing wrong with being on tag and ooc so that your members know where to find you.

"Kingdoms Frankly isnt an RP server, the only reason im even having this argument is because i DO enforce it, but still hear *****ing as if you all are better than me. And everyone knows im the best leader any nation could have of course. (and modest too) "- HAHAHAAHA....I'm sorry, that was amusing.


"however like i said, it isnt an RP server. And if you all want to ***** about rping so much, go make your own rp server. and boot everyone off of it who dont rp. " - That player-world valikorlia (sp?) does that and it isn't that unsuccessful. Of course we can't do that on a p2p server x.x


"What goes around, comes around

and stop warping your kingdoms minds through toguilds to follow your belife system, i can do the same and try to have my kingdom Flame you in pms with usless garbadge as well. " - Dude you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I don't flame any kingdoms including Samurai, I always try to keep the peace...if only message logs recorded outgoing toguilds I would show you everything -_- 100% of the time it's them telling me, if at all "I hate Samurai they <insert stupid thing here> to me" and my reply would be "Don't do anything stupid, keep the peace, I'll contact their leader" which as you notice I obviously have e_e Anyone else that tells you something it's from their own will and mouth after seeing Samurai in action ^_^

After reading his post, all I can say is "whoa..."

And he called the rest of us hypocrites.

Thanks for proving my point, Rahz-man.

why thanks tseng? That how you spell it?

http://www.graalonline.com/modules.p...&orderby=dateD

ah, good ol rahz, he was such an amazing man ::tear::

http://www.graalonline.com/modules.p...&orderby=dateD

It's just a shame that I'm such an idiot.

Wow.

Smart, cool, AND modest! People don't get much better than you, Rahz!

Now I get why Samurai is so cool; too bad I'm with Dustari, otherwise I'd just flock to Samurai and join up so fast ;)

And I mean WOW, RPing Samurai is so hard and stuff, it's so hard to RP a Japanese version of an honorable knight, but it's so easy to RP an honorable English knight!

Who would have thought that two codes of honor could be so unalike?!

Who would have thought, indeed!

And with a guy as great as you leading Samurai, wow! The RPing must be great! Even though it's so hard, you're just that good to make it work, right?

But wait...you're not...and it doesn't...even though it's so much easier than you say...

And aww...that screenshot is so cute...

nobody said it was hard, i just said, that being an elf, pirate or dustari happens to be extremly easy =P

Actually, I've found that it's a lot easier for people to do the wrong thing than to do what's right; and as such being a Dustarian is not quite so easy.

Unlike some of the other kingdoms, Dustari has standards :)

The rest..Blah blah blah, excuses blah blah you suck as a kingdom leader.

Bleh! It's not like you rp as an elf...there's different positions for each such as the spell casting section =/

Samura is made up of one section with one race (militant humans) which is 1/6 of the different positions in Forest so I believe you don't have it any easier than the rest of us.

Also...nice work copying my event ^_~

yes i dont think i have it any easier than you either.

I do not know what you are trying to say.

That didn't seem to be applied in the above log.

Regardless of whether or not this is true, kingdoms ARE an RP institution. It's the whole POINT. If you can't make sure that all of your players can RP then you shouldn't be the leader of a kingdom.

Kaimetsu, the message history has me saying to Reaper the same thing (giving them a random role to play blah blah) and in his he was saying something similar to "Argh! Anyone can rp as a pirate." x.x

Anyone else notice that he edited the quote in that post to his own benefits?

Anyway...I think that all the leaders and topranking officials of every kingdom should meet together one day, in one location, and talk things over, sorta like negotiations, smooth out rough edges, etc, etc. Anyone else agree?

The problem with the meeting is finding everyone on at the same time, but that might be a good idea

Make an international forums thread based on a meeting and set a date.

No more problems with samurai, only person that can kill me now is boukon, but he is my friend:D