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ReaperJ 04-05-2003 12:29 AM

Good old Samurai
 
It has recently come to my attention, that the kingdoms are being rather hypocriticle. Now Since Samurai contains many of the powerfull vets They, or shall i say, we are under attack verbally by hypocrits.

I have just recently realized, that Every , and i mean EVERY person i boot out of samruai for lack to comply with RPing or Murder/wreckless PKing, has been RE recruited into Either Forest or Dustari!

For instance:
Quote:

Guard Mike Elewen (Forest) (4/4/2003 4:40:46 PM):
ok i was booted for not talkin IC on tag. well this kid just called me "a
punk ass
muda****er" on tag
why yes mike, you were, but it seems the "great RP nation" of forest was interested in your lacking ability to rp.


Quote:

(Dustari) (11/9/2002 4:19:43 PM):
Lord Guy Althen
Mass message:
You have to NOT be a crappy ****. :)
Well put great RPer of dustari.
------------


Despite Samurais efforts under my leadership months ago to liberate Dustari (along with zormite) from Forest contoll, They seem to show a very low lack of grattiude. Quite low, in fact offensive.

You all need to stop whining before i bring up any more of my problems with all of you (and i have plenty plenty, and lots of dirt on most of you as well) . Samurai wil not stand for such Crap while im in leadership.




Quote:

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/3/2003 9:53:09 PM):
((X_X))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/3/2003 9:52:56 PM):
it was..thats why bou was head of it..till the dork went and booted him...after the
fact...
Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/3/2003 9:51:28 PM):
((Heh, you and bou = probably some of the only decent Samurai even though
bou pks alot. Also erm...don't mean to bring anything back up but because you
win a war does not mean you can claim the kingdom nor it's land in this game
unless it was planned by both leaders ))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/3/2003 9:50:03 PM):
(( i tend to boot out of controll members right off the bat, at the moment, all the
other kingdoms have my old members x.x and im left with dirt to deal with heh))
Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/3/2003 9:49:17 PM):
((Bleh...I'm not trying to bash you, sorry if I offended you bro x.x I just think some
of your members are bit..out of control...especially mishato and blkeagle12))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/3/2003 9:47:20 PM):
(( yes you dont have to quote me...Anyway, may i also add in how boukon by
RP right should be leading forest and how ..he isnt... because of Non RP
related issues? such as abuse of rank powers to boot boukon out of the
kingdom...anyway im not here to bash on you, but dont bash on me and take
advantage of the fact i dont ***** about all the other kingdoms like you all
try to do on me, and belive me i have plenty of *****ing to do, anyway, im
getting a little hott headed, i was also...well WAS interested in discussing an
alliance between us....ill talk about that another time however...))
Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/3/2003 9:44:23 PM):
(("off tag" and that was while I was new, I only started playing this server in
january x.x))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/3/2003 9:43:34 PM):
((no offence but this is comming from a man, who if i remember correctly, tried to
PK me a million times Off tag (not to mention i have forgiven these thigns) and
then signs off every time i came close to winning our encounters...))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/3/2003 9:42:45 PM):
((I care for strenght yes, my rank translates to basicly supreme militant leader of
japan, my concern over war tactics and strengh are traits of my character,
anyway i have no Reasont whatsoever to try to defend myself))
Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/3/2003 9:42:31 PM):
((Honestly...I think Samurai has always been poop rp wise, you got some
decent fighters though. You're probably the best leader they've ever had but I
still see members on a daily basis with their name as "." on tag and crap like
that))
"You're probably the best leader they've ever had"

im well aware of this.

I have plenty to add, but i will add more to my Complaints about you all, as you bring them up.
Please feel free to contradict anything i have said, so that i may go on.

and for everyoens information, we do have RP standerds, basicly consisting of , no tallking out of character, and we have laws of no PKing and no stealing, however if you go over our heads/laws/court system to solve these problems yourslef, we will take it offensivly.

boukon_malisous 04-05-2003 12:40 AM

Yeah, I remember that day... We had it all planned out too, but it seems we were tricked :\... I should be the King of Forest right now, not you... I would make it a GOOD Dwarf kingdom, but noo... >:[....

LordZen 04-05-2003 12:46 AM

Re: Good old Samurai
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ReaperJ
Despite Samurais efforts under my leadership months ago to liberate Dustari (along with zormite) from Forest contoll, They seem to show a very low lack of grattiude. Quite low, in fact offensive.
If I'm reading that right, your saying Astri was in control of Dustari & Zormite? :|

That never happened. True, Dustari was overran by Astri but Zurkiba did not impose his laws over that kingdom, he fought that war "to put them in their place" in his view. Because he felt they were being overly disrespectful toward him.

That and Astri never invaded Zormite succesfuly. We were the equivelant of Great Britain during world war 2. :)

ReaperJ 04-05-2003 12:48 AM

Personally i have nothing against zormite of course especially not against youuuu ::kiss::

but you must admit you were effected by it and probably couldnt have defeted pirate and forest...without us..

But, no need to thank me, and im sure everyone has a different version of the story. heh (very sure about that actually )

--Chris-- 04-05-2003 01:07 AM

Read this from the bottom go up, sad thing is he asked me to allie with them the day before.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:21:12 PM):
((I usually give a random role in case the last person I tested helped them. They go from pirates to priest, from explorers to fishermen x.x))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:20:25 PM):
anyway, post your defenses on that Forum if you have any, other than that im not in the mood to talk right now


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:20:06 PM):
so you seee if they have the ability to say "yar im a pirate"
Try having them role play a samruai, then talk.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:19:24 PM):
((No -_- Most of the times I take them to battle arena and give them a role to play such as an explorer and I'll be a pirate or something and I have them
actually rp with me then test their fighting skills. Ask almost any of my new members.))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:18:22 PM):
ah so you jsut quiz their knowledge and dont care if they actually do it, ok i see now, maybe ill come up with an inconsistant way of testing people to shut up all
this *****ing, good plan


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:16:42 PM):
See for your self


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:15:45 PM):
I wouldn't call it horrible but....some of the members are bit weird x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:15:15 PM):
Yes, I am. And I just quit Samurai, because it's a horrible kingdom =)


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:14:49 PM):
Ok x.xAre you also willing to rp correctly at all times on tag while speaking IC?

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:14:11 PM):
Yes, and I strongly wish to quit. I'll quit now :O


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:13:54 PM):
You're currently in Samurai too x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:13:27 PM):
Ah...I'm not a Shaman then...


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:13:07 PM):
I'll make you a Nessa'Quessir
Shamen are lv14+ people in wisdom x.x

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:12:24 PM):
I like Shaman or Nessa'Quessir.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:09:07 PM):
Ahh...very good.
Look at the ranks in the kingdom GUI, click "view" to see the english versian of elvish ones. Tell me which you like best.

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:08:13 PM):
IC is In Character, meaning to roleplay with others who are also in character.Example: *Bows respectfully* Greetings, my lord.
OOC is Out of Character, meaning the player is not currently roleplaying. An example: ((does anyone know where I could get some dievil's feet?))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:06:27 PM):
Tell me what's IC, OOC and give me examples of both.
Define, not only unabbreviate.

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:05:56 PM):
Yes.


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:05:39 PM):
Can you rp?

Zonte Regalorn (4/4/2003 6:04:46 PM):
Hey, could I please join Forest?


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:07:34 PM):
((I know I've recruited some Samurai such as Jin but they left at their own will, they just messaged me one day "Can I join Forest? I left Samurai" - or something of that sort. Took my rp test, passed and got in))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:07:17 PM):
http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...threadid=44025


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:07:14 PM):
i just dont care anymore eh, you can keep him, and the rest of them matter fact i
might as well direct every bad RPer to you since you seem to want our members out so much so that you can pick them up


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:05:32 PM):
Who? x.x


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 6:04:46 PM):
could have swonr Alex left Forest, Konidas, never liked him
anyway waht i said is SAMURAI BOOTED HIM, AND THEN YOU RECRUITED HIM


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 6:02:18 PM):
((Sorry, I was in a dungeon. No, ALL my members had to take rp test. First of all, I didn't boot that person, 2nd of all before anyone is removed I'm suppose to be told first (unless Excalibur boots them whom I trust most on
this game.) Thirdly, I no-one showed me anything about him calling someone else a "punk ass muda****er" on tag, if he did do it IC then he would be penalised, if it were OOC what can I do except laugh? Lower dirt? Have you looked at the quality of my members? Almost all are high staff for classic, here or bomy moon and the ones that aren't are awesome rpers and fighters. Example: Com013, Tyhm, Excalibur, Konidias, Alex_6, myself
and loads more x.x You guys take my rejects *cough* the dude I just told you about and jess1w1lson are prime examples. Don't try to start anything with
me, it's not like I hate you or your kingdom e_e))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:47:46 PM):
Guard Mike Elewen (Forest) (4/4/2003 4:40:46 PM):
ok i was booted for not talkin IC on tag. well this kid just called me "a punk ass muda****er" on tag
you take lower dirt than we accept into samruai, you reall dissapoint me


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:47:31 PM):
so..what are you out to do? have us boot all our samurai then re recurite them
into forest? is that the little plan?


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:45:31 PM):
((Ok ^_^))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:48 PM):
((you will please notify me when you see him on again, thank you))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:26 PM):
((it is a privilage to be in samurai, and not to be abused))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:41:03 PM):
((Well he will be booted, simply for asking to leave samurai))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:40:38 PM):
((Don't remember x.x ))


Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:39:59 PM):
what was that persons account name?

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:42 PM):

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:25:47 PM):
Cause you can't rp.
Stop friggin annoying me.

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:22:26 PM):
why cant i join dude

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:19:18 PM):
plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:18:10 PM):
plz let me in

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:17:31 PM):
c,mon plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:16:33 PM):
are u going to let me in plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:15:18 PM):
plz plz plz let me join

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:14:43 PM):
just let me join plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:13:43 PM):
idk wat it means but my friend is in forest and i want to join so let me plz

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:09:41 PM):
Tell me what's IC, OOC and give examples of both.

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:07:49 PM):
im not that great idk how to prove it but i now wat it means role
playing but plz let me join i want to so bad

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:06:45 PM):
Prove it :)

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:05:47 PM):
pretty good i guess

Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:05:32 PM):
Can you rp?

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:05:04 PM):
can i join forest plz

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:04:29 PM):
can i plz join forest

Bushi zav. Rekin (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:03:36 PM):
can i join forest


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:28 PM):
((look at this, bottom go up))


Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:34:15 PM):
((Dude, PLEASE try to recruit people with ATLEAST a friggin IQ higher than that
of mustards. It's only for the better of the game!))

Tseng 04-05-2003 02:52 AM

Interesting that Guy (who is well-known for his RPing abilities, and also for his hatred of those who don't RP (Namely, Samurai)), was singled out in this manner.

I'd also like to point out that your prince, Zalinto Gorohke, said that it's alright to PK people if both are on tag (without adverse RP consequences) because 'battle mode is for battling'.

zell12 04-05-2003 03:02 AM

We bring these "rejects" because we believe everyone is welcome to a kingdom -- a home. We will not tolerate scaming, pking, or anything to violate the rules, however, we will teach every single member the rules and the basics of RPing. Everyone deserves a chance.

Forest and Samurai will never be allies, Dustarians are noble, therefor gained our trust. As they have gained ours. You should try other stragities for keeping members, mabey not booting them out if they make a mistake but just tell them not to do it again and show them what they did wrong and how to fix it.

ReaperJ 04-05-2003 03:44 AM

Chris, no offence but did your post have a point other than showing some of our chat history? heh


And whats with this "yar im a pirate" oh i can rp now. ok greaatttt.

Like ive said a million times, anyone can rp an elf, a pirate, or some medival knight dustari.

Quote:

Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:14:30 PM):
anyway, post your defenses on that Forum if you have any, other than that im
not in the mood to talk right now
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:14:11 PM):
so you seee if they have the ability to say "yar im a pirate"

Try having them role play a samruai, then talk.
Aran Christian Anthony of (Forest) (4/4/2003 5:13:29 PM):
((No -_- Most of the times I take them to battle arena and give them a role to
play such as an explorer and I'll be a pirate or something and I have them
actually rp with me then test their fighting skills. Ask almost any of my new
members.))
Shogun Zalinto Rahz (Samurai) (4/4/2003 5:12:27 PM):
ah so you jsut quiz their knowledge and dont care if they actually do it, ok i see
now, maybe ill come up with an inconsistant way of testing people to shut up all
this *****ing, good plan

DenoriZakarum 04-05-2003 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tseng
Interesting that Guy (who is well-known for his RPing abilities, and also for his hatred of those who don't RP (Namely, Samurai)), was singled out in this manner.

I'd also like to point out that your prince, Zalinto Gorohke, said that it's alright to PK people if both are on tag (without adverse RP consequences) because 'battle mode is for battling'.

i dont gp "out of my way" to pk people, i only do it for self defense or they called me a bish on tag thats all ive attacked people for, i don feel its necissary to talk to the king b/c i like to see things get done, (not saying you cant get stuff done, but other kings ive talked to wont do crap) ive cut WAY down on pkling

Dark-Dragoon 04-05-2003 04:18 AM

Zalinto, if you would stop recruiting people without a care for if they can RP or not, these problems would stop. Samurai has become the kingdom for people who do not rp, the kingdom for people who just want to pk and scam and call people ****s because they aren't level 15+.

ReaperJ 04-05-2003 04:42 AM

It's scientifcly proven you will remember the bad encounters more than the good, even if the ratio is 50/50

think about that before passing judgment.

have a nice day

zell12 04-05-2003 05:14 AM

This is pathetic. My god, just shut up. e.e

Forest recruits people that can and cannot rp. We teach the ones who cannot rp and give them a promotion when they pass the trials. The ones who pass the first trial (the ones who rp good) will be promoted right away to a position like Engineer, Farmer, Soldie, Knight, such things like that. And as they advance their skills as well as their rp skills, they will get further promotions.

Zormite and Samurai recruit for power. The rank system is based solely on level, and not on the skill. x.x However, I do agree level should play a part in recruiting to a certian rank, but it should not be the only thing.

draco5432 04-05-2003 06:01 AM

You know what, all samurai is is a ****ing pk happy guild, its not a kingdom it doesnt work like a kingdom, for god sakes they get away with everything, you cant consider Samurai as a kingdom, its just a messed up guild.

DenoriZakarum 04-05-2003 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by draco5432
You know what, all samurai is is a ****ing pk happy guild, its not a kingdom it doesnt work like a kingdom, for god sakes they get away with everything, you cant consider Samurai as a kingdom, its just a messed up guild.
your just mad because everytime u smack me i pk your guts out =/ shut up >=[ Samurai RP's very well, although you fail too see it because your still trying to get me back. Forest are th epking ones, i walk into the ost office to sell and i got Chris, Mike, Alex and some other dude trying to kill me, WTF is that?

Aliendude 04-05-2003 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DenoriZakarum

your just mad because everytime u smack me i pk your guts out =/ shut up >=[ Samurai RP's very well, although you fail too see it because your still trying to get me back. Forest are th epking ones, i walk into the ost office to sell and i got Chris, Mike, Alex and some other dude trying to kill me, WTF is that?

I'm agreeing with Draco.. Samurai is just as good at RPing as the other kingdoms - meaning that maybe 1/5 of them can RP. I also seem to remember half of Samurai chasing me trying to kill me for no real reason...that was awhile ago though so alot of those people might've left by now.


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