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ZeroFXSM 03-14-2003 10:03 AM

No! No! New King! Doesn't Work! And I'm serious! NO It DOES NOT WORK!
 
Look here.

I was walking one day to go to my house in samurai, When I encountered the samurai shogun and a governor (Who's name was BoBo. Hence the name BoBo, Very samurai like!).

When I overheard their conversation!

Shogun: I just got laid
Bobo: Nice :)
Shogun: Hehe

OK!

When you are ON TAG.
You do not talk about GETTING LAID
Getting Laid is NOT ROLE PLAYING
WHAT TEH !)@#*)( IS YOUR PROBLEM.

When I told them.

ZeroFX: You guys should be rping on tag.
Bobo: St** n*** u don't know anything
Joe the Shogun: I don't feel like it.

Ok, when you are on tag, when you say a OOC message, you attempt to show that you are saying a OOC message (using parantehsis)

Later in Confronted Bobo!

Who was made a Governor for GOOD RP SKILLS! (YAY?)

ZeroFX: IF you don't like to RP, why did you join a kingdom?
Bobo: All my friends are in a kingdom.

WASN'T KINGDOMS MADE SO PLAYERS COULD ROLEPLAY?

I @#*)(* finished my ranting. You guys can think what you want. But this is really stupid!

I DEMAND A REVAMP OF SAMURAI AND I DEMAND THE KING TO GIVE UP HIS THRONE

Kaimetsu 03-14-2003 10:45 AM

Man oh man there needs to be a Kingdoms Admin. Someone like Vermain :(

feivel 03-15-2003 01:46 AM

I vote that if this is true he should be banned form samurai forever.

ZeroFXSM 03-15-2003 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
I vote that if this is true he should be banned form samurai forever.
I'm not here to hurt anyones reputations. Believe what you want. What happened was TRUE.

Samurais DON'T ROLE PLAY

You see? Leveling up and becoming strong is fine, as long as you don't forget the concept of ROLE PLAYING.

I agree with Kaimetsu!

MKSLAYER 03-15-2003 03:37 AM

throw the king down i've been rampaging this on DeBug for ever im wicked friggen pissed off at samurai right now (i am one). dude this is getting out of hand make rahz shogun again. i have some more dirt on joe too :\ . you know when there was that create bomb glitch so people died when you r/c'ed. well he killed me about 2 times when i was trying to buy somthing. he backs up by saying "I didnt mean too!". later i observerd him doing the same thing to numerous people. also we need to get RP this is so out of hand ok lets see. ME SAMURAI ME MEAT HEAD! ME GO ACT LIKE A DUMB ASS AND KILL PEOPLE. ME GOT LAID LAST NIGHT. UG ME SAMURAI HAS SPOKEN. lets have a decent shogun and it should definetly go by a vote and seniority. ok this really pisses me off. I log on there are friggen like 5 princes. Every one left except bou rahz and me. that makes me like 3rd eldest member. ok this i dont mind. but when they start to bull**** me around i start to get really REALLY FRIGGEN ANGRY. o then we recruit this ***** who stole like over 15 rexies from me :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: ok word of advice REFORMAT THIS. i say all the kingdom leaders talk about this on DeBug and come with a solution give it to stefan there we go

Kaimetsu 03-15-2003 06:30 AM

SOLUTION:

Make it so that leader positions (Shogun, King, Head-Pirate-Guy, whatever) require SACRIFICES. Ideally, make it so that any King loses all ability to fight or gain items and becomes a character purely for roleplaying. Then we don't get idiots like Boukon or this Joe guy applying - they're too attached to their phat items.

DenoriZakarum 03-15-2003 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
SOLUTION:

Make it so that leader positions (Shogun, King, Head-Pirate-Guy, whatever) require SACRIFICES. Ideally, make it so that any King loses all ability to fight or gain items and becomes a character purely for roleplaying. Then we don't get idiots like Boukon or this Joe guy applying - they're too attached to their phat items.

correct me if im wrong but, didnt kings lead the army to battle, didnt they always have all the good swords and were usually VERY strong?

Kaimetsu 03-15-2003 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DenoriZakarum
correct me if im wrong but, didnt kings lead the army to battle, didnt they always have all the good swords and were usually VERY strong?
Not really, that's just what Hollywood would have you believe. Most of them were fat and/or old.

Mikoto 03-15-2003 07:35 AM

leave me the *&@##@ alone, ask anyone in samurai they are 95% satisfied with me. just because you walked up on a personal conversation i was having doesnt give you the right to put someone else as shogun... im not going to talk to my friends with ((paranthesis)) around each sentence, and im not gonna make anyone else do it. its time consuming and pointless. if an event is on samurai knows to talk in character and OOC in pm's. most of the time we are lvling, going on treasure maps, etc. we roleplay treasure hunters/traders/hunters. and also kaimetsu i dont have any "phat" items. everything i have is normal items on the server.

Mikoto 03-15-2003 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MKSLAYER
:grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: ok word of advice REFORMAT THIS. i say all the kingdom leaders talk about this on DeBug and come with a solution give it to stefan there we go

how about i get debug chat to :) not fair that stefan is only hearing one power crazy person's side of the story.

freak0102 03-15-2003 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Not really, that's just what Hollywood would have you believe. Most of them were fat and/or old.

Don't worry, hollywood has some of us believing the fat/old part also :-) . I would think the kings would be wise, in this order: Zormite, Forest, Dustari, and Samurai. And I would think they would be physically powerfull in this order: Samurai, Dustari, Forest, and Zormite. Aren't samurais supposed to be the fighters FOR a kingdom? So if the whole kingdom is samurai, I would think the leader would be powerfull, but still not an idiot going around PKing people (even if he is at the bottom of the intelligence food chain -_- ). More than anything, I would think they would have the best armor and weapons on the battlefield, and also be in the safest place of it too. It doesn't necessarily mean they'd be the best at using it though (so that would be a low-leveled character with a weapon blessed to a god with at least +3 on it, and maybe even IWD'ed...) Some funny/interesting parts of RPing could have been built up with people who had rare weapons, if they would have lead a kingdom and been better RPers, it could be like their signature weapons, everyone would know them for it (Like DragonX's black axe, Bouken guy's hammer thingy...)...

Kaimetsu 03-15-2003 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freak0102
I would think the kings would be wise, in this order: Zormite, Forest, Dustari, and Samurai. And I would think they would be physically powerfull in this order: Samurai, Dustari, Forest, and Zormite.
All of the kings should be wise. And while it's true that some of the kingdoms might, in reality, use an election system based on physical strength, realism isn't the only factor we need to consider. Realism is just a tool, dude, not an objective.

The sad truth is that idiots are being elected simply because they are powerful. In their place we need level-headed, balanced people who're not afraid to bar somebody entry because they can't RP. People who obsess about gaining powerful items will also obsess about improving the strength of their kingdom, and that doesn't lead to a good RPing environment. Roleplaying on Kingdoms should not always be about fighting. The kings should not necessarily always fight to win - running a kingdom is as much about making the game fun for your opponent as for your own team - but the current rulers don't realise this.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikoto
im not going to talk to my friends with ((paranthesis)) around each sentence, and im not gonna make anyone else do it. its time consuming and pointless.
Then go off tag. When you are wearing your tag, you are the Shogun. The Shogun should not be bragging about 'getting laid'.

Quote:

kaimetsu i dont have any "phat" items. everything i have is normal items on the server.
Oh well. I still think you wouldn't apply for Shogun if it meant giving up all your physical power.

brock128 03-15-2003 03:14 PM

I talked with bobo, and he just about summed up what Zero said. With lots of cursing, too.

Yea, Samurai needs to be re-made.

Kaiser2 03-15-2003 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freak0102

Some funny/interesting parts of RPing could have been built up with people who had rare weapons, if they would have lead a kingdom and been better RPers, it could be like their signature weapons, everyone would know them for it (Like DragonX's black axe, Bouken guy's hammer thingy...)...

My Inferno Sword, and Alex's Inferno Sword ;) We're focal points in our kingdoms (I should hope :o) and our weapons make us distinct :)

Tseng 03-15-2003 08:30 PM

Joe.

You're a Kingdom emperor.

Follow the freaking rules.

Enforce the freaking rules.

Or lose your emperorship.

It's quite simple, when you get right down to it.

I have no problems supporting Conner to be a new emperor.

Well, just one, when he went around using the name "Gaadian *MKSLAYER" x.x;; that isn't exactly an RPing name. But that's a simple problem to solve, other than that he appears a rational and reasonable person.

This new Samurai emperor needs to go.

But what do I know, I'm just one of those few weird people who understand the concept of RPing.

On that side topic, I have my Orc Shield, that helps to set me apart visually.

LordZen 03-16-2003 02:29 AM

Zormite has a level-headed leader, and so does Dustari and CP in my opinion. Dont bag on all the kingdom kings :(

I used to be the only person with the black Ninja outfit...*sigh* then it got released. No special identification for Zen.

DragonX 03-16-2003 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LordZen
Zormite has a level-headed leader, and so does Dustari and CP in my opinion. Dont bag on all the kingdom kings :(

I used to be the only person with the black Ninja outfit...*sigh* then it got released. No special identification for Zen.

I've had the ninja outfit forever now and people saw me with it and begged Stefan to release it :\ The ninja outfit symbolizes me and I will never change it because I love it, I wish it didn't get released lol

Kaiser2 03-16-2003 03:20 AM

My character needs a sorta trench-coat :(
or at least a leet black cloak

freak0102 03-16-2003 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Then go off tag. When you are wearing your tag, you are the Shogun. The Shogun should not be bragging about 'getting laid'.

Yes, if you can't go by common RPing rules, you shouldn't even be in a kingdom. So many people talk OOC all the time, or just PK and don't RP, and many just give the reason "Well, noone else is doing it, so I won't be only one RPing". Shouldn't we be trying to fix problems, not make them worse or give up on a situation?

MKSLAYER 03-18-2003 03:52 AM

joe this grudge with me and you is better but im just a little anoyed

ZeroFXSM 03-20-2003 07:41 AM

Joe.

What you fail to understand is, that when you are on tag, You are roleplaying your character.

Your character, is not YOU, it is who you are PRETENDING to be on a GAME.

and was it ever a big deal? just add 2-4 characters to your text and you'll be fine!

Treasure Hunters, Heh, Tell me, how does a treasure hunter even behave? Maybe you should start acting like one.

Kaiser2 03-20-2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZeroFXSM
Joe.

What you fail to understand is, that when you are on tag, You are roleplaying your character.

Unless you are sending a mass message, then you are OOC. (if you need to know wha that is, you should be removed.)

Your character, is not YOU, it is who you are PRETENDING to be on a GAME.
Yes, exactly, since you are king, ACT like one. You shouldn't be breaking RP rules, or other rules. And if you persist that you are "In-Character" then the rest of Samurai can have an uprising and remove you from the throne, RP style.

and was it ever a big deal? just add 2-4 characters to your text and you'll be fine!
Exactly, or, go off tag and talk to them in PMs, or character to character.

Treasure Hunters, Heh, Tell me, how does a treasure hunter even behave? Maybe you should start acting like one.
Wait, was this mentioned? or did I miss something?

feivel 03-21-2003 02:08 AM

Just to clear something up, Samurai leaders were warriors and present in battle. So they would be powerful. Also Samurai leaders were also very wise (although as in every real kingdom, there were ones who were dumb and just puppts lol)

ZeroFXSM 03-21-2003 02:45 AM

Kaiser. Yes I am calling you kaiser because I have fear I will spell your rp name wrong.

Joe Fu******* (His last name is some what depicted as fook u aron)

Said that his kingdom was "Treasure Hunters" and "theives" or something like that. Which doesn't make alot of sense..

They seem to speak a strange language.. I heard their way of saying hello is "Lol roflamo bahahah"

Kaiser2 03-21-2003 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZeroFXSM
Kaiser. Yes I am calling you kaiser because I have fear I will spell your rp name wrong.

Joe Fu******* (His last name is some what depicted as fook u aron)

Said that his kingdom was "Treasure Hunters" and "theives" or something like that. Which doesn't make alot of sense..

They seem to speak a strange language.. I heard their way of saying hello is "Lol roflamo bahahah"

hehe, why fear misspelling it? it's not like I'm going to kill you or something :\

Anyway, yes, if Joe does act like that, he should be removed.

ReaperJ 03-29-2003 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DenoriZakarum

correct me if im wrong but, didnt kings lead the army to battle, didnt they always have all the good swords and were usually VERY strong?

such a good boy ::pats on head::

Now a king, should just be chosen better, not to say boukon was...well not to say he wa..well im not saying he wasnt a good king... errr ehem* (hi boukon =P) however choosing a king (this has nothign to do with you boukon) should be done better than..when i chose..boukon ..errr which is where that flaw lies.

I should take the blame but at the time i didnt care, i was bored of graal (and all other aspects of life) and just wanted to get being shogun offf my chest for a while (or forever at the time) heh
so i had them fight and the winner goot to be king =P , and you can imagine, the most power gaming people would have won that tournament and not the best role players, hence, boukon becameeee king =P (not that boukon is a bad role player =P)

anyway thats all over with now :asleep:


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