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Jeff 02-15-2003 12:20 AM

Kingdoms are back!
 
There are now three kingdoms.

Inra, with Queen Arianna Durime (Scarlett)
Senbotsu, with Emperor Tsurai Ayaka (Tupper)
Zionus, with Emperor Zappa Zorkov (Nappa)

These use old Dustari, Samurai and Zormite levels for the sake of efficiency. These are being improved.

Everyone come enjoy the fun!

MilkyWay0016 02-15-2003 01:52 AM

First Kingdom War: Me and Scarlette vs. Tupper.
Oh yeah. :D

Kamaeru 02-15-2003 02:03 AM

Jeff r evil....with his....pirate hating ways......-.-

LilNiglet 02-15-2003 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016
First Kingdom War: Me and Scarlette vs. Tupper.
Oh yeah. :D

wtfs u haxor quadruple teem me omg :(

Birdbird_0 02-15-2003 04:01 AM

Haha.
I see what you're doing.

Lame and underqualifed development.

I find it insulting that you slap on names and make up random kingdoms out of nowhere.

I hope you learn in a week when everyone realizes how uneventfull the kingdoms are.

You've had your chance Jeff, your chance to proove you could do something with 2k1. Instead you choose to raise the dead and claim it as your own workings.

On a later note. I'm just being compentitive with the secure thought that you pose no compition to me, player wise.

Waltz5 02-15-2003 04:03 AM

And the competition has begun!
Or is it already over? ;)

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 04:11 AM

Can I be the Governor of the Pirates since we need our Pirates back?

Governor Mylus Teven

Googi 02-15-2003 04:49 AM

We aren't claiming them our own. We had to change the Kingdom names, we weren't allowed to keep the old ones.

Jeff 02-15-2003 04:55 AM

Not so much an issue of forced as it being prudent.

It seemed as if it would cause les trouble with 2k2 with new names.


And I never claimed the kingdoms to be new. People seem to be having a good time, though.


Bird, as far as playercount is concerned, what you have right now is Loriel's minigame. Having seen very little of your progress I cannot make an assessment of what you have as I have not seen it.

LilNiglet 02-15-2003 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Haha.
I see what you're doing.

Lame and underqualifed development.

I find it insulting that you slap on names and make up random kingdoms out of nowhere.

I hope you learn in a week when everyone realizes how uneventfull the kingdoms are.

You've had your chance Jeff, your chance to proove you could do something with 2k1. Instead you choose to raise the dead and claim it as your own workings.

On a later note. I'm just being compentitive with the secure thought that you pose no compition to me, player wise.

I like it.

Python523 02-15-2003 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenyonandelliot
Can I be the Governor of the Pirates since we need our Pirates back?

Governor Mylus Teven

leader of pirates was called captain on 2k1, not governor

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Python523

leader of pirates was called captain on 2k1, not governor

Oh then what would the captains be if it was like kingdoms?

Captain Mylus Teven

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
Not so much an issue of forced as it being prudent.

It seemed as if it would cause les trouble with 2k2 with new names.


And I never claimed the kingdoms to be new. People seem to be having a good time, though.


Bird, as far as playercount is concerned, what you have right now is Loriel's minigame. Having seen very little of your progress I cannot make an assessment of what you have as I have not seen it.

What could the Pirates be called? Pirates? WTF! LIGHTNING!

Edit: Examples:
Cave Pirates
Cavern Pirates
Pirate Soldiers
Pirates
Mylus Pirates
Teven Pirates
Pirate Crew ( :D )

Zurkiba 02-15-2003 05:51 AM

Pirate Crew isn't 2k2, it's 2k1...

So I think Pirate Crew should stay.

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AND YEY! Kingdoms are back. This means that the overall RPing of Graal is improving.
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And Birdbird, I'm sorry but I dont get you.
"I see what you're doing"
"Lame Development"
"Slap on names for kingdoms"

For one:
1) You didn't have to be immature about it. A simple "Why are you giving them new names" would've done it.
2) You didn't have your facts right.

And your last comment is just stupid, I'm sorry but it is =x. "you pose no compition to me, player wise.", Why dont we all just worship you now?

You're starting to act like you're God, but you're not =x. Congradulate Jeff with the revival of the RP system and go work on your Graal 2001.

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 06:15 AM

This time make sure that the Prince/Lord or King can NOT delete the emperor. Last time that happened Zormite got ruined.

Zurkiba 02-15-2003 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenyonandelliot
This time make sure that the Prince/Lord or King can NOT delete the emperor. Last time that happened Zormite got ruined.
They cant nor could they ever.

Birdbird_0 02-15-2003 08:22 AM

Well in all due respect.

I'm insulted by Jeff.
I have my resons, if they're not obvious oh well. Many people might wonder why I'm offended, I just am.

2k1's just Jeff's Playground with some staff that like to use lots of toys. I don't like getting clicked on and blowing up for no apparent reson when I logg on a server. Cough.

Sure my comment was a poor attemt at sitire and sarcasem.

My opinyon on Jeff still stands at, that he's had enough time to do something with 2k1, this sudden consern about 2k1 and its rp world is just a last ploy so graal bomy moon doesn't wither away into nothing. I mean, why start this up now instead of last moth, is it this sudden compeditive edge that drove him to do this?

It's just a big game to him. Even though it is (hehe).

edit:

I'm not potraying myself as God or anything like that, thats a bit extreem for a comment =(

I'm not being overconfident.
I just know what I'm doing.
Well, maybe just a little.

But I really do think the kingdoms are really just some big joke.
Constructive critisisem:

Yeah new names, on old levels? It's being a bit... yeah.

Sure you want people to have fun, but it's seriously... "dissapointing"

I appluad the effort though.

draygin 02-15-2003 08:41 AM

It's lame in the sense that all they did was upload old castles instead of takin the time to make brand new ones. Heck I have at least 3 castles on my computer that I've made just for fun. I dont like the half arsed way things are done on 2k1 now days. If you're going to do something you should take the time to do it right. If any one had bothered to consult me I could have had a whole cluster of kingdoms done within a weak. But no one seems to have the patience to wait that long. Nor to consult any of the staff about it or have them do the necessary work. For these reasons I feel its prudent that I step down. I cant work for some thing I dont have faith in. Sorry if I let any one down. The tunnel levels are still on the ftp just add the link and ladder and its good to go.

brock128 02-15-2003 03:59 PM

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My Dustari scrapbook...

Firstly, BIRDBIRD STILL WINS :D

brock128 02-15-2003 04:06 PM

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Secondly, excellent job tiling! You sure made sure there weren't any errors! :rolleyes:

brock128 02-15-2003 04:08 PM

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Thirdly, A WINNER IS BIRDBIRD

Zurkiba 02-15-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
Well in all due respect.

I'm insulted by Jeff.
I have my resons, if they're not obvious oh well. Many people might wonder why I'm offended, I just am.

You're offended because you just are. That's just like saying "I killed him because I wanted to"

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

2k1's just Jeff's Playground with some staff that like to use lots of toys. I don't like getting clicked on and blowing up for no apparent reson when I logg on a server. Cough.

I'm sure the toys will come to a halt when the population regains. But I agree, they shouldn't have staff toys. But hey, when noone will play your server because they play 2k2... might as well get something to do (Even though they should've been working on something else)

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

My opinyon on Jeff still stands at, that he's had enough time to do something with 2k1, this sudden consern about 2k1 and its rp world is just a last ploy so graal bomy moon doesn't wither away into nothing. I mean, why start this up now instead of last moth, is it this sudden compeditive edge that drove him to do this?

Jeff started it up because the players personally came to him and asked for the kingdoms to be restored. I was also told that he was reffered to my post (2k2 Kingdoms > RPing on 2k2 sucks > Last Page).

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

I'm not potraying myself as God or anything like that, thats a bit extreem for a comment =(

I'm not being overconfident.
I just know what I'm doing.
Well, maybe just a little.

I said God, because it seems like you own Graal, that you own the world, and that you own the universe. Saying stuff like "I'm better than you, player wise" and things like that is just pointless.

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

But I really do think the kingdoms are really just some big joke.

May we reffer to your post on 2k1 coming back? I believe that you have kingdoms. And I believe you'll have to change the names, since Stefan seems to want the current kingdom names to stay on 2k2.

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0

Yeah new names, on old levels? It's being a bit... yeah.

The old levels are temp castles. If my plan is approved then it will mean every castle will be destroyed and a small building will stand in their place. From there they have to grow by using economics and war.

MilkyWay0016 02-15-2003 04:47 PM

If I remember correctly, wern't you planning on using the same old levels, also?

Hm.

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 05:10 PM

Also don't make kingdoms names that no one can understand like Pitanates or Juan or Ivran, etc.

Sparkplug 02-15-2003 07:03 PM

OMG if Pirate Crew comes back to 2k1, i might end up playing more :)

Oh the good ol' days

*FLASHBACK*

kenyonandelliot 02-15-2003 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparkplug
OMG if Pirate Crew comes back to 2k1, i might end up playing more :)

Oh the good ol' days

*FLASHBACK*

I would play more on g2k1 to. Theres only 2 places I would like to join. First 1 is Pirates, and Second 1 is Zormite.

MrCharles 02-15-2003 08:33 PM

Change the names to more simple names

Jeff 02-15-2003 08:36 PM

Frankly, Birdbird, I am quite insulted.


2k1's just Jeff's Playground with some staff that like to use lots of toys. I don't like getting clicked on and blowing up for no apparent reson when I logg on a server. Cough.



I myself do not indulge in such behavior, and to any staff reading this, please do not abuse such items; rather, use them either among friends or as part of events etc, not to annoy the masses.



My opinyon on Jeff still stands at, that he's had enough time to do something with 2k1, this sudden consern about 2k1 and its rp world is just a last ploy so graal bomy moon doesn't wither away into nothing. I mean, why start this up now instead of last moth, is it this sudden compeditive edge that drove him to do this?


It is not so much an issue of competetive edge that made me see the light as the gestalt effect of everyone IMing me about bringing back kingdoms.


It's just a big game to him. Even though it is (hehe).


You imply that I do not take this stuff seriously. Rest assured that I do.



I'm not potraying myself as God or anything like that, thats a bit extreem for a comment =(

I'm not being overconfident.
I just know what I'm doing.
Well, maybe just a little.


Yes, accusing you of autodeification is a bit harsh, but you do seem to be acting a bit...superior...without any solid proof that you are thusly superior.


Yeah new names, on old levels? It's being a bit... yeah.


Isn't that more or less what your project is? An ancient version of newmain, updated to modern standards? Not that I object, but is that not the pot calling the kettle black? I put new names on the kingdoms so the 2k2 kings wouldn't demand kingship on 2k1, and what have you.


Sure you want people to have fun, but it's seriously... "dissapointing"


You expect Baldur's Gate? Neverwinter Nights? Age of Kings?


I appluad the effort though.

And I bow to your applause. But I do not kneel.

--Chris-- 02-15-2003 08:41 PM

Mylus as a Leader? *chokes laughing*

Anyways...Jeff has done alot in the short time he's been manager. I've seen Tseng and Jeff add and alter things daily =/ Do you really expect him to get alot of players since Graal Kingdoms came around? What makes it worse is that you act like it's his management skills which has the server unpopulated but when you were in charge there was NO other p2p server so you have no right to put him down and act like you're better.

Googi 02-15-2003 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by draygin
It's lame in the sense that all they did was upload old castles instead of takin the time to make brand new ones.
No it's not.

We wanted to do old castles and old names, but we weren't allowed to.

magicbud3344 02-15-2003 10:49 PM

you guys need an evil kingdom

Birdbird_0 02-16-2003 12:18 AM

Well *shrug*

I'm before your time, those who can remember what I've done know what I'm capable of. As for Bomy Moon, I shouldn't even be arguing about it, it's your server with your management Hell if my opinyons or descret opinyons matter.

No I'm not slapping on new names and bringing back old levels, Thats just dumb.

The kingdoms are
Dustari
Zormite
Samurai
Tyelia

Each will be in the same place on the overworld, and have new kingdom levels and layouts. If I have enough time before release, I'll make the 4 overworlds for them, if not then I'll do them after release.

Oh well, all the work I once did on 2k1 (later named as Bomy Bomy moon) has been used as scrap and spit on. But I don't mind doing it all overagain, work wise , its fun.

magicbud3344 02-16-2003 12:22 AM

Tyelia-
whats the story behind this one x.x?

-Axel- 02-16-2003 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
Tyelia-
whats the story behind this one x.x?

It was a really dumb kingdom that hardly lasted. x.x

And to BirdBird:
Would it be too hard to maybe look over your reply and fix the typos?

magicbud3344 02-16-2003 12:28 AM

i mean what kind of kingdom, what was teh story?
was it like another dustari?
or was it a bunch of bloodthirsty cerial killers...or what?

-Axel- 02-16-2003 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
i mean what kind of kingdom, what was teh story?
was it like another dustari?
or was it a bunch of bloodthirsty cerial killers...or what?

A elf kingdom I believe.

Qwert616 02-16-2003 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
i mean what kind of kingdom, what was teh story?
was it like another dustari?
or was it a bunch of bloodthirsty cerial killers...or what?

It was something like a peaceful elf kingdom that lived in the clouds.

Birdbird_0 02-16-2003 01:43 AM

The elf part of it was dumb x_x

It's a Kingdom that dwells in the clouds, well more like floating land clumps.

kenyonandelliot 02-16-2003 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
The elf part of it was dumb x_x

It's a Kingdom that dwells in the clouds, well more like floating land clumps.

I remember that one! I think that cloud is where you have to play music to bring down a later?

magicbud3344 02-16-2003 01:57 AM

sounds interesting :O!


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