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Brad 01-12-2003 06:56 AM

Bradley's Renegade Review
 
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I'll be posting three screenshots.

Horrible tiling in spots.

I've caught two graphic problems which I will notify staff on my global gfx team tag.

Also, so much open space...jesus I can build an empire in the empty space.

Screenshot one :


DBZ thing..illegal.

Torankusu 01-12-2003 06:57 AM

HEY WTF MY NAME IS BRADLEY.

Brad 01-12-2003 06:57 AM

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Screenshot two:


Chicken graphic. I DO believe Stefan banned the use of this chicken. The way it is being used where you slash it and it cawks at you does remind me of a certain RPG.

Brad 01-12-2003 06:58 AM

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Screenshot three:


Worst tiling I've ever seen.

Wang144 01-12-2003 07:22 AM

Re: Bradley's Renegade Review
 
Whell said Brad, i agree fully...
Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
I'll be posting three screenshots.

Horrible tiling in spots.

I've caught two graphic problems which I will notify staff on my global gfx team tag.

Also, so much open space...jesus I can build an empire in the empty space.

Screenshot one :


DBZ thing..illegal.

DBZ? The White thing? What is it?

RTelvecho 01-12-2003 07:30 AM

Re: Re: Bradley's Renegade Review
 
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Originally posted by Wang144
Whell said Brad, i agree fully...

DBZ? The White thing? What is it?

Capsule Corp thing

Python523 01-12-2003 07:53 AM

yet another highly hoped for server that was highly overrated, guess I was right that I would be more disgusted than impressed

Brad 01-12-2003 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

Thanks

It's like Maloria, deserved to get passed..very like 2k1...bad errors.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 01-12-2003 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kill3r
whoever passed Renegade is pretty ***ed up
Thanks

It's clearly obvious that those are bugs and not tiling errors. I mean, I don't understand why there are still bugs on this server even though it's been up about 2 months to fix them, but I still not understanding why everyone has to go bash servers in a 5 minute review.

Clearly for some of you no server will EVER please you or meet your expectations, you've been filling yourself with hot air for a long time and it's time to stop. Maybe we should put up all the servers that miserably failed the PW test to compare them to those that have passed, and then you can tell me some of the stuff you've seen is garbage. I don't think Stefan or Unixmad would be pleased to see absolutely no growth and development to the game if we all held some peoples expectations around here.

By the way, and I mean this in the most sincere way, to whoever works on these super promising servers.. well.. okay, Graal 2230. Look, I'm not bashing you or anything, but you talk about all these super cool this and super cool that, but the fact is that there has been barely any development on that server for the longest time. You talk about how these servers are terrible, but the only defence you have is to promise the players that they will "soon" experience the most wonderful server of all time with 400+ players etc. By the time you get done, Graal will either be gone, or the standards will have raised so much that no one will care anymore. I know Jagen works hard, he has showed me some cool things but he can't do it all alone. Your server will most certainly fail and be the biggest upset Graal has ever seen if you don't get your act together.

screen_name 01-12-2003 08:20 AM

Those screenshots are terrible.

WTF!!?!?!? My name isn't Bradley!!

Darlene159 01-12-2003 08:33 AM

I was wondering about that water, I thought I was missing some graphics or something

JrTerrorist 01-12-2003 08:40 AM

There's also bomies on the server O.O are they permitted?

Rax 01-12-2003 08:44 AM

take the server down

tlf288 01-12-2003 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Rax
take the server down
They'll take it down when you make one better....

Come on, Do you think that you could do better? I mean its not perfect but its good....

Tseng 01-12-2003 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by JrTerrorist
There's also bomies on the server O.O are they permitted?
Only if Stefan authorized that (WHICH I DOUBT).

JrTerrorist 01-12-2003 10:39 AM

BRING DOWN RENEGADE! >:O

What about the draisine, the only thing changed on it is that D moves it instead of S.. OoOoOoOoOo?

Angel 01-12-2003 11:02 AM

What funny is.. Months and months ago i worked there. I quit and i told them im not working for a server that steals scripts. Everything was stolen. I warned Nemesis but i guess my word wasnt good enoghn. Half the stuff still had //NPC By Stefan blah blah. lol

Ghost Pirate 01-12-2003 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Rant
Aftershock ever since I played Graal2k1 I had that high expection. Not just because I'm making super cools.

As for Graal2230 production. Its kinda hard to snag somone who will help with 2230 graphics and who won't leave in a week and aswell as work for free. Ask for NPCs, Jagen is free to hire whoever he needs to help him out with. I can't truely hire someone for npcs because I'm completely dumb on whats a good script and a bad one.

Why do a I "promise" super cools? Because I have that high expection, I'm striving to be the best.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 01-12-2003 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate


Aftershock ever since I played Graal2k1 I had that high expection. Not just because I'm making super cools.

As for Graal2230 production. Its kinda hard to snag somone who will help with 2230 graphics and who won't leave in a week and aswell as work for free. Ask for NPCs, Jagen is free to hire whoever he needs to help him out with. I can't truely hire someone for npcs because I'm completely dumb on whats a good script and a bad one.

Why do a I "promise" super cools? Because I have that high expection, I'm striving to be the best.

Yeah, but right now all Graal 2230 is is just a concept. There is nothing more on that playerworld than just a big concept, and it's not helping. How long has 2230 been up? A year? What do you have done? :(

And would someone be so kind as to list some playerworlds that are better than Renegade in terms of quality. Please support your statement with some evidence.

Darlene159 01-12-2003 06:40 PM

It is next to impossible to find good help now, especially for graphics and scripting

TheFrozenFiend 01-12-2003 07:18 PM

Ooooh, new server.
Ill have to try Renegade later. :)

JrTerrorist 01-13-2003 12:09 AM

Frozen's Renegade View:
"OMG COOL BODIES AND TILESET"
...10 minutes later
"Ive seen that on another server.. that too.. and that.. hrrm.."
..5 minutes after that
"WTS! ...boOoOoOoRiNg.. 1 ph33r th3 st34l1ng"

RTelvecho 01-13-2003 03:24 AM

*cough*I told you all this was another version of maloria and a crappy one too, I also told you the the map was all forest. No one belived me, I am the oracle. K?*cough*

Kaimetsu 01-13-2003 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
It is next to impossible to find good help now, especially for graphics and scripting
One day, someone should just bite the bullet and start paying us >=D

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 01-13-2003 04:15 AM

It's a little hard to review for bugs offline, especially when there is no NPC server, consider that. Also, the fact that they were "hacked" a few times didn't help either, I had no control of the server once it was online and in private

JrTerrorist 01-13-2003 04:50 AM

Or they didnt realize we'd realize the truth O_o

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 01-13-2003 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kill3r


That doesn't mean it should've been put on the server list X_X

Someone should of at least made sure everything was fixed before it got on the server list.

You don't understand how things work, which is why I loathe aguing with you.

These days, everyone is working on things for the NPC server. It would be much easier if people could just rent out a playerworld or borrow it temporarily where they do their scripts there, thnen they don't have to convert. Unfortunately, Stefan and Unixmad probably don't even know what the PWA is or think it's a bad idea. So, when you review offline, you're assuming these bugs and scripts will be worked out online. That's the reason why Stefan puts the servers up. Server goes up, server team fixes and converts, release when done. It should only take a few weeks. There is no possible way for me or anyone else except Stefan or Unixmad to supervize the progress between when it goes up and when it's released. If they wanted to, they could re-do the whole damn server starting with a new overworld of they liked (which is actually what renegade wanted to do, re-do the OW and make a gmap) and we just sit there.

This is the way things are. Accept it.

Neglegence2002 01-13-2003 06:34 AM

Renegade isnt that bad, its just got some missplaces tiles. And i think i am the same thing as Ghost Pirate, i want to be the best in everything, but i dont think its possible in Graal now a days.

Darlene159 01-13-2003 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


One day, someone should just bite the bullet and start paying us >=D

lol, like who? The server you work for? If so...who is going to pay the managers so they can pay the staff?
It will never happen

Kaimetsu 01-13-2003 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159

lol, like who? The server you work for? If so...who is going to pay the managers so they can pay the staff?
It will never happen

I can dream :(

JrTerrorist 01-13-2003 09:37 AM

Kai--

You've gotta be a friggin' genious O__o

CyberX 01-13-2003 05:12 PM

Maloria is not that bad server anymore... It's a very cool and enjoyable server right now... But the problem is that the majority of people don't go there because they still think it sux...

Anyway, our Playercount is evoluting every day....

Brad 01-13-2003 10:14 PM

Um, everyone...this is my job. I was to post illeal gfx which I did. Sorry for offending anyone ?

konidias 01-13-2003 10:59 PM

I totally agree with the lack of good staff. I've had close to half a dozen people "work" on Oasis with me, and none of them have lasted over a week or two except Falados, and he really only does things when he is in the mood, wearing his lucky shoes, on a full stomache, with nothing else to do. (meaning he rarely seems to have time to help)

Money does not stop you from being lazy. People that don't own the playerworld just don't care if it makes progress, and the people that do care, usually don't have the talent needed. I never planned on scripting most of the stuff for Oasis myself but I'm being forced to, as I have no other alternative. I've had 3 of the best scripters on Graal and progress is still painstakingly slow.

However, I'm greatful for Kaimetsu, Loriel, and Falados, for the scripting they DID provide. I just feel there is a lack of effort/dedication from people and that they give up when there isn't instant gratification. Nearly all the people that have worked for Oasis, now work for Era. Why? Because all of the sudden, Era is online, with tons of people, and it's popular, so bye bye Oasis with a private server and no people, and hello popularity and praise. :(

Kaimetsu 01-13-2003 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
I just feel there is a lack of effort/dedication from people and that they give up when there isn't instant gratification. Nearly all the people that have worked for Oasis, now work for Era.
I'm sure you won't believe me, but I'm not scripting Era's cars for the praise. If I just wanted praise then I'd stick to making eye candy like this thing. I wouldn't have even considered scripting this thing for them if I didn't think it was an interesting project.

Angel 01-14-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
Money does not stop you from being lazy. People that don't own the playerworld just don't care if it makes progress, and the people that do care, usually don't have the talent needed. I never planned on scripting most of the stuff for Oasis myself but I'm being forced to, as I have no other alternative. I've had 3 of the best scripters on Graal and progress is still painstakingly slow.

You know that better than anyone. You were payed well to work.
Did you ever finsh that horse?

However, I'm greatful for Kaimetsu, Loriel, and Falados, for the scripting they DID provide. I just feel there is a lack of effort/dedication from people and that they give up when there isn't instant gratification. Nearly all the people that have worked for Oasis, now work for Era. Why? Because all of the sudden, Era is online, with tons of people, and it's popular, so bye bye Oasis with a private server and no people, and hello popularity and praise. :(

Yes. But you seemed to forgot one thing. Me Delph and Chrisz. Worked day and night to get era on the server list. Its not like wow era Lets all help out. No one would help out. So we all fought to make era fun and I could only hope Popular. Now Im very happy to seen people Like Kai,Birdbird,Zorg and many others helping era. Maybe it is because they get praise. Then so be it.

But alot of hard work went into era before they came along.Era was the only playerworld on graal that have let people played while it was private.

Why? Cause we wanted people to enjoy what we spent countless hours making. I have nothing against you or your Playerworld.

But dont moan and complain about not having staff anymore. Your the one that wanted to do Oasis all by your self.
Making a *good* Playerworld takes alot of work.

so yeah Bye Konidias

RTelvecho 01-14-2003 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Angel


Yes. But you seemed to forgot one thing. Me Delph and Chrisz. Worked day and night to get era on the server list. Its not like wow era Lets all help out. No one would help out. So we all fought to make era fun and I could only hope Popular. Now Im very happy to seen people Like Kai,Birdbird,Zorg and many others helping era. Maybe it is because they get praise. Then so be it.

But alot of hard work went into era before they came along.Era was the only playerworld on graal that have let people played while it was private.

Why? Cause we wanted people to enjoy what we spent countless hours making. I have nothing against you or your Playerworld.

But dont moan and complain about not having staff anymore. Your the one that wanted to do Oasis all by your self.
Making a *good* Playerworld takes alot of work.

so yeah Bye Konidias

She has a good point, your the one who wanted to work on Oasis all by ur self, cause you didnt trust others =/.

JrTerrorist 01-23-2003 02:23 AM

Oasis = r0x0rz from what ive seen
Era = r0x0rz but there's a little too much Staff showing off NPCs and crap >_< not to mention that only one guild (Black Holst) is getting discounts on weapons..

O.o.. the staff help out THEIR guilds and thats it :(

baywatch1 01-26-2003 07:01 PM

not very good! the screens look ****!


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