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MalakSylv 09-13-2002 11:54 PM

PWA team.
 
I feel sorry for you guys. If no one else will say it, I will. You're hard workers and didn't even get a say in the Council decision. Now, your jobs are practically pointless. You have no say in the online playerworlds, and even if you still review new playerworlds, it's the council that decide if they go up or not, so what's the point?

It was good while it lasted. I was even hoping I might join the PWA team one day, but it looks like that's not going to happen.

:(

Timpan3 09-13-2002 11:56 PM

Re: PWA team.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MalakSylv
I feel sorry for you guys. If no one else will say it, I do. You're hard workers and didn't even get a say in the Council decision. Now, your jobs are practically pointless. You have no say in the online playerworlds, and even if you still review new playerworlds, it's the council that decide if they go up or not, so what's the point?

It was good while it lasted. I was even hoping I might join the PWA team one day, but it looks like that's not going to happen.

:(

Alot of us hate the decision, but unixmad doesn't care, so I guess that's that.

MalakSylv 09-13-2002 11:58 PM

oh, and I also feel sorry for Nemesis. His job now consists of taking orders from not only Stefan and Unixmad, but from this council, which unfortunately may end up consisting of young, immature, unexperienced people. He'll be working his ass off even more now, whilst the council just gets to give HIM tasks, and say what goes.

Timpan3 09-14-2002 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MalakSylv
oh, and I also feel sorry for Nemesis. His job now consists of taking orders from not only Stefan and Unixmad, but from this council, which unfortunately may end up consisting of young, immature, unexperienced people. He'll be working his ass off even more now, whilst the council just gets to give HIM tasks, and say what goes.
Too much power for something not hard to do (talking about the council)

Loriel 09-14-2002 12:04 AM

I am happy I am not playing on classic servers much. Otherwise, I might complain about the council and the lack of power on the PWAs side.

Timpan3 09-14-2002 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Loriel
I am happy I am not playing on classic servers much. Otherwise, I might complain about the council and the lack of power on the PWAs side.
Like everyone else does, complain :D and I love it.

Loriel 09-14-2002 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Timpan3
Like everyone else does, complain :D and I love it.

And get banned again? Nuh, thanks.

WanDaMan 09-14-2002 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by MalakSylv
oh, and I also feel sorry for Nemesis. His job now consists of taking orders from not only Stefan and Unixmad, but from this council, which unfortunately may end up consisting of young, immature, unexperienced people. He'll be working his ass off even more now, whilst the council just gets to give HIM tasks, and say what goes.
Does that mean he will not have more space of time to review servers >.

Timpan3 09-14-2002 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by WanDaMan

Does that mean he will not have more space of time to review servers >.

If the council gets made, its pointless for the PWAs to review to server because its the council that decides if the server goes up or not.

zell12 09-14-2002 02:14 AM

I can assure you this, you cannot reason with Stefan to talk to Unixmad with it. I think he is afraid Unixmad will stop supporting him and hosting Graal. I asked him about it last night and he told me that Nemesis has to talk to Unximad about it, since he was busy or something. And reasoning with Unixmad to stop something he choose to do is pointless. Its like going onto a battle field with no gun. =/ I talk to Nem, he isn't happy at all.

WanDaMan 09-14-2002 02:21 AM

I Heard ningnong was talking to him about eXodia he seemed a bit tad mad >:3

zell12 09-14-2002 02:24 AM

Hmm... I hope none of this affects this server going up :O

WanDaMan 09-14-2002 02:26 AM

Me 2 >.

MalakSylv 09-14-2002 02:58 AM

It will, in some way. Basically, if the Council is made, then playerworld reviews become pointless. The Council decide if this playerworld goes up or nto, based on their experience with playerworlds, which may very will be ZILCH. They could simply have a problem with you, and it wouldn't go up.

Then again, that pretty much sounds like how Graal's always been. ;)

zell12 09-14-2002 03:47 AM

Well, I just don't see why the PWA handles G-Servers. And the GMs handle Gold/Classic G-Servers alltogether. Doing the bigh things. The council is like saying that they are the GMs, and the Gms are their asstiants.

Brent5000 09-14-2002 03:55 AM

What exactly was the point of switching anyway? What was wrong with just having PWA?

Timpan3 09-14-2002 03:58 AM

We don't have a clue of what unixmad is thinking off with this new "council", that , I guess, is one of the reasons we're (some of us) pissed off.

Brent5000 09-14-2002 04:03 AM

ya it seems kinda weird...i thought that pwa was pretty cool...the pw reveiws are like my favorite thing to read on the forums...some of the people on pwa have been working for quite awhile and now there jobs just like pointless...

Legondary_MyTH 09-14-2002 05:57 AM

well....
 
As i said graal is getting managed worse and worse but the game is getting better....I just wish things were the way they used to be

WanDaMan 09-14-2002 05:59 AM

Re: well....
 
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Originally posted by Legondary_MyTH
As i said graal is getting managed worse and worse but the game is getting better....I just wish things were the way they used to be
i thought u was a nooby =/

MalakSylv 09-14-2002 06:13 AM

Re: Re: well....
 
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Originally posted by WanDaMan

i thought u was a nooby =/

[off-topic]
why do you, and other *****s like you, insist on creating more variations on the already retarded enough word "newbie", and insist on calling people it, when you yourself, no one knows or CARES about.

stop existing.[/off-topic]

[on-topic]poor, poor PWA. :(
[/on-topic]

HEALER101 09-14-2002 07:42 PM

Re: Re: Re: well....
 
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Originally posted by MalakSylv


[off-topic]
why do you, and other *****s like you, insist on creating more variations on the already retarded enough word "newbie", and insist on calling people it, when you yourself, no one knows or CARES about.

stop existing.[/off-topic]

[on-topic]poor, poor PWA. :(
[/on-topic]

:p i got a pretty good laugh outta that, lmao. But anyway, its even kinda like stefan has not had an opinion in anything, everything is Unix, and he is driving graal into the ground, the people of graal dont want a million rules, he has to understand that a majority of people that play graal are between 12 and 18, not 30-40, so we dont want many rules, it bugs us, i remember my favorite time on graal is when i first started like 2 years ago, ahhhh, old delteria, there wasnt a care in the world, we had a horrible owner (yes OWNER, :megaeek: ) but we didnt care, and there was a low disire to be staff. We pked in oldbarionsquare, and all the noobies went into hooters to heal. Hooters was the ****, they hired workers and everything, omg, it was teh best. I miss that...

BladeSpirit 09-22-2002 06:51 AM

This council will have supreme power it seems. So why bother having PWA? Because if you got rid of them everyone would hate the council.

Of course, I still don't like this idea; unless it makes reviews quicker (which is impossible on a vote basis). This is gonna make most staff powerless.

Mister i0wnYou[1] (a council member) comes online.

GP makes mass joke "har har faqqots , har har"

council takes down server for immature behavior

if you want a council, then graal is not for you, it's taking the power from powerless regions. Server owners won't be able to run their servers how they want ;'(

Torankusu 09-25-2002 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by BladeSpirit
This council will have supreme power it seems. So why bother having PWA? Because if you got rid of them everyone would hate the council.

Of course, I still don't like this idea; unless it makes reviews quicker (which is impossible on a vote basis). This is gonna make most staff powerless.

Mister i0wnYou[1] (a council member) comes online.

GP makes mass joke "har har faqqots , har har"

council takes down server for immature behavior

if you want a council, then graal is not for you, it's taking the power from powerless regions. Server owners won't be able to run their servers how they want ;'(

Which is VERY similar to Contego's HRO system, now that I think about it...

HoudiniMan 09-25-2002 04:02 PM

I disagree with this "council" idea entirely for these reasons:

1) It will either consist of the people who already make decisions or those hand chosen my Unix out of his "in-crowd"

2) It's pointless all together, what more do we get by having a council? Nothing. Just a different way to manage... bringing me to number 3...

3) If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We are doing fine with Nemesis managing all PWs and no council, also the PWA is the single most hard working, reliable, un-corrupt branch of administration there is... now we phase it out? what does that possibly accomplish?

Food for thought.

Darlene159 09-25-2002 08:00 PM

I heard the council isnt going to happen

haunter 09-26-2002 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I heard the council isnt going to happen
Perhaps they are going by the old saying "The customer knows best" :|


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