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Reuben 06-08-2002 04:55 AM

Conflict between me and WC
 
Warcaptain is trying to get me (Cyanide) banned for reuben coming onto this exact account and massing out WC's phone number! What he must have forgotten that this is legally not my account, Reuben is the one who got it made and paid for... according to the guidelines, ALL PLAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT. I am not the legal owner of this account, therefore you cannot get any of MY accounts globally banned from the actions taken on another persons account! thank you....

-Cyanide

Warcaptain 06-08-2002 05:07 AM

RULES:

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MISCELLANEOUS: GraalOnline reserves the right to make special-case adjustments to its policies and the steps it takes concerning violation of these policies.
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PRIVACY: GraalOnline expects GraalOnline players to abide by the same respect for personal privacy. Personal information – age, address, personal email, phone numbers, etc. – should never be exploited, communicated between players. Any violations will be strictly punished.


Darlene159 06-08-2002 05:10 AM

lol, I agree people are responsible for their own accounts, however, if it is found out or proven that someone else was on that account, then that person who was on the account should be the one banned

Nemesis 06-08-2002 05:12 AM

Re: Conflict between me and WC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Reuben
Warcaptain is trying to get me (Cyanide) banned for reuben coming onto this exact account and massing out WC's phone number! What he must have forgotten that this is legally not my account, Reuben is the one who got it made and paid for... according to the guidelines, ALL PLAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT. I am not the legal owner of this account, therefore you cannot get any of MY accounts globally banned from the actions taken on another persons account! thank you....

-Cyanide

That is the price you pay for sharing accounts. Both parties are responsible. You could blame it on him, and he could blame it on you. Thus both parties will be punished for breaking the graalian rules. THe main account will be taken care of, and any additional problems you both tend to stir up will not be hesitated in action. Consider this a fair warning to you and to everyone. Do not share accounts, unless you would like to be responsible for anothers actions, because it is the account and the players who use the account are responsible. We are graal online, do not recommend you sharing your accounts for this reason, and if you choose to. You shall face the consequences of it. Regardless it will happen, whether you think so or not. =/

Loriel 06-08-2002 05:16 AM

Hehe.
"Hey, it's true, I cheated on this account. But it's not my one, I just hacked it, so you can't ban me."

Carl_Elven 06-08-2002 05:19 AM

-_-;
 
Shaddup Warcaptain. It wasn't his fault so leave him alone. Stuff happens like that. Hell I could careless if someone spammed my number out. And if people called it then it's their problem and their money they spend on the call lol

Carl_Elven 06-08-2002 05:27 AM

All I have to say is..
 
You guys are a bunch of brown nosing crackers. You have your noses up his crack just cause he owns a server. Pathetic

zell12 06-08-2002 05:45 AM

literaly, its only a phone number, if someone calls you, then block their number, simple =/

thesaiyan 06-08-2002 06:01 AM

Rofl, that's just another way graal screws you over. You buy a friggin p2p, then get it banned for something SUPER dumb. Rendering the fact that you paid for it useless. Think, they just made a quick 15 bucks off you, and now they don't have to worry about 1 person on graal.


---The Wizard

royce 06-08-2002 06:11 AM

Re: Re: Conflict between me and WC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis


That is the price you pay for sharing accounts. Both parties are responsible.

I agree. If your account was hacked then banned, thats a different story.

mikepg 06-08-2002 06:32 AM

Re: Conflict between me and WC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Reuben
Warcaptain is trying to get me (Cyanide) banned for reuben coming onto this exact account and massing out WC's phone number! What he must have forgotten that this is legally not my account, Reuben is the one who got it made and paid for... according to the guidelines, ALL PLAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACCOUNT. I am not the legal owner of this account, therefore you cannot get any of MY accounts globally banned from the actions taken on another persons account! thank you....

-Cyanide

if you have your own accounts...why the heck are you on this one you dolf?

Python523 06-08-2002 07:02 AM

Re: -_-;
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Carl_Elven
Shaddup Warcaptain. It wasn't his fault so leave him alone. Stuff happens like that. Hell I could careless if someone spammed my number out. And if people called it then it's their problem and their money they spend on the call lol
why aren't you banned? You practically caused us to completelly redo ALL the NPCs on providence

royce 06-08-2002 08:08 AM

Re: Re: -_-;
 
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Originally posted by Python523

why aren't you banned? You practically caused us to completelly redo ALL the NPCs on providence

What happened with that?!?!?!?!?:eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek:

konidias 06-08-2002 09:46 AM

People make up their own rules on this issue.

1. An account shouldn't be banned if it got "hacked" and the "hacker" did something bad on the account, since it wasn't the actual account owner's fault.

2. A person that borrowed someone else's account, should not have their actual account banned for doing something illegal on an account they didn't pay for.

Well, these are both wrong. Number one, the account that was part of the illegal activity, is banned. Number two, the person that got banned will have all of thier accounts banned. (this is ban evasion)

Just because you use someone elses account to hack, doesn't mean your account is safe from being banned. (note I just used "hacking" here, but this goes for any activity that is against the rules)

Also, your account never get's "hacked", it's always the cause of you using a trojan, you giving out your pass somewhere, or you having an easy pass to figure out. If your pass is 3a9r1nv2l34s2, no one is ever going to just figure that out by typing in random keys, and get into your account. They have to have your account and pass exactly. Also, if it was possible for the "hacker" to get your account without any actions from you, then they could easily get any Graal account, so why would they only "hack" yours?

WHIPENIE4 06-08-2002 10:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mikepg
if you have your own accounts...why the heck are you on this one you dolf?
I think you mean dolt?


But yes, the account SHOULD be banned or suffer the consequinces the person who shared his account trusted you and now you, in a way backstab him by demolishing the trust.

You broke the rules regardless on which account your on you'll suffer the consequinces.

I trust X-Mann with my account and if he does something wrong im willing to suffer the consequinces of his actions, although I hope that never happens... *looks at X-Mann*

Python523 06-08-2002 10:15 AM

Re: Re: Re: -_-;
 
Quote:

Originally posted by royce


What happened with that?!?!?!?!?:eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek: :eek: :megaeek:

it was awhile ago, when people thought SK was being blamed, somehow this dude got one of the NATs passwords and whiped our whole NPC Database

SinNetherwind 06-08-2002 11:41 AM

Cyanide, for what you have done id say you deserve a ban.... you did some very cruel immarture things, when you could have gracefully just stepped down and quit.

Warcaptain, dont hanlde this like a 10 year old. IF you have nothing good to say to him, dont say anything and leave him alone and out of your life, not be a jerk and all and make remarks about his dad like you did today.

Both of you are stressing me out.....

Reuben 06-08-2002 10:28 PM

Re: Re: Conflict between me and WC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mikepg


if you have your own accounts...why the heck are you on this one you dolf?

try to guess..... it's my only p2p one!

Reuben 06-08-2002 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinNetherwind
Cyanide, for what you have done id say you deserve a ban.... you did some very cruel immarture things, when you could have gracefully just stepped down and quit.

Warcaptain, dont hanlde this like a 10 year old. IF you have nothing good to say to him, dont say anything and leave him alone and out of your life, not be a jerk and all and make remarks about his dad like you did today.

Both of you are stressing me out.....

If WC woulndt have made fun of my adoption and say remarks like 'you'll never know your parents you fatherless bastard!', then i would NOT have done anything else

Reuben 06-08-2002 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by konidias
People make up their own rules on this issue.

1. An account shouldn't be banned if it got "hacked" and the "hacker" did something bad on the account, since it wasn't the actual account owner's fault.

2. A person that borrowed someone else's account, should not have their actual account banned for doing something illegal on an account they didn't pay for.

Well, these are both wrong. Number one, the account that was part of the illegal activity, is banned. Number two, the person that got banned will have all of thier accounts banned. (this is ban evasion)

Just because you use someone elses account to hack, doesn't mean your account is safe from being banned. (note I just used "hacking" here, but this goes for any activity that is against the rules)

Also, your account never get's "hacked", it's always the cause of you using a trojan, you giving out your pass somewhere, or you having an easy pass to figure out. If your pass is 3a9r1nv2l34s2, no one is ever going to just figure that out by typing in random keys, and get into your account. They have to have your account and pass exactly. Also, if it was possible for the "hacker" to get your account without any actions from you, then they could easily get any Graal account, so why would they only "hack" yours?

there was no 'hacking' involved in this situation...

SinNetherwind 06-08-2002 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reuben


If WC woulndt have made fun of my adoption and say remarks like 'you'll never know your parents you fatherless bastard!', then i would NOT have done anything else

he was wrong to do that, thats why im asking he doesnt even speak.

Warcaptain 06-09-2002 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reuben


If WC woulndt have made fun of my adoption and say remarks like 'you'll never know your parents you fatherless bastard!', then i would NOT have done anything else

lets go through evens leading to that shall we?

-goes behind my back starts to make a server
-tries to steal my staff behind my back
-quits
-gives out my phone number to hackers, and enemies of me
-invites my enemies in a chat room with me to ***** and taunt me
-creates fake logs saying im a homosexual
-masses my phone number out on many graal servers
-gives my # to other people and says to mass out
-tries to steal my levels\npcs

i think for the one time i went off on you, it wasnt half as much as you did to me.
id have to make fun of your adoption, and 20 other smaller flaws.

Torankusu 06-09-2002 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Warcaptain
lets go through evens leading to that shall we?

-goes behind my back starts to make a server
-tries to steal my staff behind my back
-quits
-gives out my phone number to hackers, and enemies of me
-invites my enemies in a chat room with me to ***** and taunt me
-creates fake logs saying im a homosexual
-masses my phone number out on many graal servers
-gives my # to other people and says to mass out
-tries to steal my levels\npcs

i think for the one time i went off on you, it wasnt half as much as you did to me.
id have to make fun of your adoption, and 20 other smaller flaws.

adoption really isn't one of those things you joke about... neither is giving out phone numbers, but let's not toy around with peoples' emotions. I mean, you might be some ****ed up kid and all and like "OH NO PEOPLE WILL CALL AND THE PHONE WILL RING," but you don't have to answer it. Now, making fun of someone's adoption, it's not all that professional...

GraalBR 06-09-2002 02:42 AM

Re: Re: Conflict between me and WC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis


That is the price you pay for sharing accounts. Both parties are responsible. You could blame it on him, and he could blame it on you. Thus both parties will be punished for breaking the graalian rules. THe main account will be taken care of, and any additional problems you both tend to stir up will not be hesitated in action. Consider this a fair warning to you and to everyone. Do not share accounts, unless you would like to be responsible for anothers actions, because it is the account and the players who use the account are responsible. We are graal online, do not recommend you sharing your accounts for this reason, and if you choose to. You shall face the consequences of it. Regardless it will happen, whether you think so or not. =/

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Hoobastank Suck they are Pop

royce 06-09-2002 02:57 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: -_-;
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Python523

it was awhile ago, when people thought SK was being blamed, somehow this dude got one of the NATs passwords and whiped our whole NPC Database

Ouch. Thats not good.


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