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unixmad 06-06-2002 03:39 PM

About peoples using trojans
 
- Starting today I will personally trace all peoples that use Trojans to hack other peoples accounts, we have all trace of gralat transfer then it will not be hard to known who have stolen gralats.

After loging enough informations i will:

1) Delete all accounts that have been used for hacking
2) Globaly ban this peoples and trust me that you will have a hard time to come back.
3) Send all traces to police, sending Virus to peoples is a crime for a lot of american state.

You have been warned !

Unix.

magicbud3344 06-06-2002 03:41 PM

YEA YEA no more hack threats ^_^
that makes me happy because i know a few people who had there acounts stolen, well kinda knew them but this is good news

Minoc 06-06-2002 03:41 PM

what if someone put a trojan in an illegal trainer?

Minoc 06-06-2002 03:43 PM

and what if some people wanna get someone banned
first they'll give him alot of money and items, after that they will post a thread here "OHNO I WAS HACKED I THINK XXXXX DID IT, HE HACKED SOME OTHERS TOO, BAN HIM!"

magicbud3344 06-06-2002 03:45 PM

:eek: good point

mastervampire 06-06-2002 04:01 PM

Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
- Starting today I will personally trace all peoples that use Trojans to hack other peoples accounts, we have all trace of gralat transfer then it will not be hard to known who have stolen gralats.

After loging enough informations i will:

1) Delete all accounts that have been used for hacking
2) Globaly ban this peoples and trust me that you will have a hard time to come back.
3) Send all traces to police, sending Virus to peoples is a crime for a lot of american state.

You have been warned !

Unix.

American states eh? What about other countries, like Australia.

-Brett

AlexH 06-06-2002 04:03 PM

Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mastervampire


American states eh? What about other countries, like Australia.

-Brett

They all have laws about hacking. =/
There are very few countries that don't.

mastervampire 06-06-2002 04:06 PM

Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH


They all have laws about hacking. =/
There are very few countries that don't.

How would you know about Australian laws Mr. UK.
I never signed anything to say i cannot hack anything i want, if i should go to jail of a crime, of hacking, then iwould be going to jail for the fact that im curious.

-Brett

AlexH 06-06-2002 04:10 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mastervampire


How would you know about Australian laws Mr. UK.
I never signed anything to say i cannot hack anything i want, if i should go to jail of a crime, of hacking, then iwould be going to jail for the fact that im curious.

-Brett


I never said anything about Australia.

mastervampire 06-06-2002 04:12 PM

Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH


They all have laws about hacking. =/
There are very few countries that don't.

I said Australia, then you said "They all have laws"

-Brett

VikingBladeII 06-06-2002 08:08 PM

It would also be advisable to setup an automatic e-mail ban for new accounts on accounts that are specifically banned for that purpose. Many "hackers" have many accounts, and when they find one free e-mail service that is not filtered out, they use it. By deliberately blocking them as they go, they will have a much harder time. Though there are still loop-holes, this would be effective to an extent. I suggest you also upgrade the ban system with a more dynamic defense, as it is can be largely ineffective for a semi-determined player.

screen_name 06-06-2002 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc
and what if some people wanna get someone banned
first they'll give him alot of money and items, after that they will post a thread here "OHNO I WAS HACKED I THINK XXXXX DID IT, HE HACKED SOME OTHERS TOO, BAN HIM!"


then dont accept a bunch of stuff that makes you suspicious or either have a staff or two present to be witnesses

TheFrozenFiend 06-06-2002 08:15 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mastervampire


I never signed anything to say i cannot hack anything i want, if i should go to jail of a crime, of hacking, then iwould be going to jail for the fact that im curious.

-Brett

Sending trojans is illegal. No matter what you have or havent signed.

Thats like saying in court, when youve been accused of murder, - "But I didnt sign anything to say I couldnt murder people if I want!".

Minoc 06-06-2002 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by screen_name



then dont accept a bunch of stuff that makes you suspicious or either have a staff or two present to be witnesses

That's not what I meant =\
I meant that people could be lying and claim that someone alse sent trojans and hacked them, although he didn't \=

Nemesis 06-06-2002 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc
what if someone put a trojan in an illegal trainer?
that is your stupid fault for downloading a trainer.

If you get hacked for downloading a trainer. Thats your fault. Not only the person who made the trainer but you should be banned for being stupid enough to use a trainer knowing full well it will cost you, your account regardless. -.-

toad1413 06-06-2002 11:31 PM

Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH


They all have laws about hacking. =/
There are very few countries that don't.

Yes, but Australia doesn't have very strict laws, unlike America. It's good, less security on things here.

SinNetherwind 06-07-2002 12:22 AM

Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
- Starting today I will personally trace all peoples that use Trojans to hack other peoples accounts, we have all trace of gralat transfer then it will not be hard to known who have stolen gralats.

After loging enough informations i will:

1) Delete all accounts that have been used for hacking
2) Globaly ban this peoples and trust me that you will have a hard time to come back.
3) Send all traces to police, sending Virus to peoples is a crime for a lot of american state.

You have been warned !

Unix.

Thats what graal loves about you :p

Minoc 06-07-2002 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis


that is your stupid fault for downloading a trainer.

If you get hacked for downloading a trainer. Thats your fault. Not only the person who made the trainer but you should be banned for being stupid enough to use a trainer knowing full well it will cost you, your account regardless. -.-

yeah
but trojans in trainers can help :P
if people will know that it's not safe to download a trainer, they wouldn't do it

SinNetherwind 06-07-2002 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc

yeah
but trojans in trainers can help :P
if people will know that it's not safe to download a trainer, they wouldn't do it

Good point kinda..... lol i just realized how many people are about to have accts deleted @_@

ghostsamurai 06-07-2002 01:09 AM

but safe sex is good :(

cloudstrifevii 06-07-2002 01:25 AM

Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH


They all have laws about . =/
There are very few countries that don't.

NOT THE COMMIES!

Torankusu 06-07-2002 02:29 AM

Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
You have been warned !

Unix.

That seems familiar.

Zolrieg 06-07-2002 03:35 AM

Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
That seems familiar.
haha.

Quote:

Virus on Graal.

There is no Virus on Graal exe for sure, if you continue telling people there is i will have to cancel your account.

Last warning.

Unixmad.
he sent me that private message a long time ago, bwahaha.

konidias 06-07-2002 03:48 AM

Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Zolrieg


haha.



he sent me that private message a long time ago, bwahaha.

I would say the same thing as he did. If you go around telling people there is a virus in the game that they paid money to play, when there isn't one, I would be cancelling your account also. ;)

Minoc 06-07-2002 03:51 AM

a few months ago I found a trojan in graal.exe =\

Logo 06-07-2002 04:19 AM

haha more police threats by unixmad

SuperThug312 06-07-2002 05:03 AM

I am wondering, if you computer tells you that the classic server got ileagal datta on your computer does that meen that you are IP banned? because i am getting this message and i have never hacked anything. I got the account SuperThug312 from a friend. it was not even mine before. I have payed for p2p also. I am sorta Angry i guess. And if i am IP banned i want to let you know that i and many other people who have been IP banned for nothing will sue Graal Online.

Spanko 06-07-2002 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperThug312
I am wondering, if you computer tells you that the classic server got ileagal datta on your computer does that meen that you are IP banned? because i am getting this message and i have never hacked anything. I got the account SuperThug312 from a friend. it was not even mine before. I have payed for p2p also. I am sorta Angry i guess. And if i am IP banned i want to let you know that i and many other people who have been IP banned for nothing will sue Graal Online.
The illegal data thing is a bug in Graal's latest version, you aren't banned.

SuperThug312 06-07-2002 05:18 AM

Well what if it happens to me everytime i try and get on classic?
The same thing is happening to Albus. Neither of us can get on Classic.

Brad 06-07-2002 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc

That's not what I meant =\
I meant that people could be lying and claim that someone alse sent trojans and hacked them, although he didn't \=

Holy:
I'm sure he's not going to trace the person by a "OGM I WUZ HAXD WEE MUSHT BANND TEH HAXR" thread.

Zolrieg 06-07-2002 07:14 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by konidias


I would say the same thing as he did. If you go around telling people there is a virus in the game that they paid money to play, when there isn't one, I would be cancelling your account also. ;)

you don't know the whole story. all I said was that there must be a virus, or else everyone wouldn't be experiencing these problems. unixmad over-exaggerated.

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...hlight=unixmad

mastervampire 06-07-2002 05:40 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TheFrozenFiend


Sending trojans is illegal. No matter what you have or havent signed.

Thats like saying in court, when youve been accused of murder, - "But I didnt sign anything to say I couldnt murder people if I want!".

Er...o.O;; that's just complicating things, no one ever said anything about murder, so don't bring it up, no one is stupid enough to do that. Ofcrouse no one would say that, because it's a worldwide law, enforced in all countries, hacking isn't. Neither can it be stopped.

-Brett

Poogle 06-07-2002 11:28 PM

Umm my friend said no one could IP ban him becuse he has a Rotating IP... Is this true?

Zolrieg 06-08-2002 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Poogle
Umm my friend said no one could IP ban him becuse he has a Rotating IP... Is this true?
rotating IP? don't you mean dynamic and no.

Torankusu_2002 06-08-2002 04:28 AM

BAN HELL RAVEN

Minoc 06-08-2002 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu_2002
BAN HELL RAVEN
Hell Raven is already banned :P

kp_p2p 06-08-2002 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minoc

Hell Raven is already banned :P

Beowulf:
And he'll be back. It's not like he hasn't been banned before :O.

mastervampire 06-08-2002 05:49 PM

Yea that's right, you can always find a way around things, that's how things are made. He'll be back, shortly, even an idiot can find a way to be unbanned, or a way around it.

-Brett

Zurkiba 06-08-2002 08:20 PM

Re: Re: About peoples using trojans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mastervampire


American states eh? What about other countries, like Australia.

-Brett

The thing about us Americans... is that if you hack us then the FBI will be all over you ass... Forgein or not.


But one thing is this... My friend quit Graal one time and he gave me all of his money and bomy (3k and Xen 1)... He also shared it with CyberX (Police on 2k1).

And what happens to the people who bought pre-made accounts? The Pre-made accounts could've been used for hacking and now those people who bought their accounts with gralat or what ever are going to be banned.

There are some innocent people who will get banned... because of the two things I stated above, I just hope that they can get their account back :o/

Zurkiba 06-08-2002 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad

Holy:
I'm sure he's not going to trace the person by a "OGM I WUZ HAXD WEE MUSHT BANND TEH HAXR" thread.

They've done it before O_o... only it wasn't on a large scale...
Plus they could have a reward if you turn in a hacker....

Kind of like...

500g on both Gold Servers for the return of the name and proof of a hacker who has not been banned. When the account is found, it will be traced, if found guilty... banned.

And plus they do have the logs on 2k1.


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