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Mustang1988 03-02-2002 12:02 PM

The Old Graal Sites
 
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Heh.. One of the first?
(One more coming up)

LilNiglet 03-02-2002 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang1988
Heh.. One of the first?
(One more coming up)

Haha, cool.

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 12:06 PM

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2 :)

SabLee 03-02-2002 12:31 PM

I remember the first one.

Soto2001 03-02-2002 12:36 PM

i miss thoughs days :(

SabLee 03-02-2002 01:04 PM

All graal is now is money no money no play.

*stares at unixmad* money hungry....

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by SabLee
All graal is now is money no money no play.

*stares at unixmad* money hungry....

He's not money hungry. He has been working on Graal for years and received nothing but criticism and complaints. He runs the servers and owns the computers and things, he even keeps them running 24/7. Can't really complain.

Hulk Hogan 03-02-2002 01:44 PM

Re: The Old Graal Sites
 
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Originally posted by Mustang1988
Heh.. One of the first?
(One more coming up)

"You can play the game along or connect to our game server to play with hundred off player"

Haha I like the english they used back then ;)

Vincent_TK 03-02-2002 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang1988


He's not money hungry. He has been working on Graal for years and received nothing but criticism and complaints. He runs the servers and owns the computers and things, he even keeps them running 24/7. Can't really complain.

Nope, hes money hungry.

Kaimetsu 03-02-2002 02:10 PM

Everybody's money hungry in reality :-/

But yeah, archive.org is cool.

ZanderX 03-02-2002 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK


Nope, hes money hungry.

How do you figure?

Vincent_TK 03-02-2002 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


How do you figure?

Hmm...how do you figure he isnt?

Nastazio 03-02-2002 02:14 PM

damn bro, he puts half is life into making something that he hopes to make a carrer. Now if you did this, i'm sure you would want some cash to make a living also. gah.

ZanderX 03-02-2002 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK


Hmm...how do you figure he isnt?

Because I understand that it's very costly and difficult to run a business that services thousands of players a day?

freddyfox 03-02-2002 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK


Hmm...how do you figure he isnt?

Tell you what: You go run 23 servers, pay for an entire office, pay some of your working employees, and I'll come over and call you money hungry, because that's what you obviously are according to your style of logic.

Vincent_TK 03-02-2002 02:21 PM

He runs how many servers for Graal? And if there so concerned about server support/cost, they wouldnt host/run playerworlds. Release the G-Server again. Most of the new G******* projects look way better than anything Graal currently has.

freddyfox 03-02-2002 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK
And if there so concerned about server support/cost, they wouldnt host/run playerworlds. Release the G-Server again. Most of the new ******* projects look way better than anything Graal currently has.
No. They won't release the G-Server again. They need the business from graal to afford to live. This is their JOB. It's how they put bread on the table and afford a house and an office. Stop thinking unixmad is an evil overlord bent on screwing you out of money: He's not.

Vincent_TK 03-02-2002 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox


No. They won't release the G-Server again. They need the business from graal to afford to live. This is their JOB. It's how they put bread on the table and afford a house and an office. Stop thinking unixmad is an evil overlord bent on screwing you out of money: He's not.

Graal isnt worth paying for as it currently is. Bring back the community, the older pk tags, more skill players, and the rest of the old stuff without the new features and it will be worth it. Well, maybe keep some of the new features, but most of them suck.

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 02:35 PM

Then you go make a game for a living with a full salary staff with no money to pay them with besides out of your own pocket.

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
But yeah, archive.org is cool.
I love it :p

I can bring back my oldest sites and see how bad they were.. I still sort of remember the old white background one.. Hardly the black one.. Can't really remember.. *zap*

ZanderX 03-02-2002 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_TK


Graal isnt worth paying for as it currently is. Bring back the community, the older pk tags, more skill players, and the rest of the old stuff without the new features and it will be worth it. Well, maybe keep some of the new features, but most of them suck.


It's not a question of features. It's about working for a living, which is something unixmad has to do seeing as how he's in his thirties. Some people still pay for Graal and that's what matters to him, this business helps him put food on the table at night and give him a place to sleep.

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



It's not a question of features. It's about working for a living, which is something unixmad has to do seeing as how he's in his thirties. Some people still pay for Graal and that's what matters to him, this business helps him put food on the table at night and give him a place to sleep.

I would donate and stuff, but my ATM card isn't a checking account, only savings, so I can't use it as a credit card. Maybe when I get a checking account. =\

Hulk Hogan 03-02-2002 02:54 PM

Oh yes.

Unixmad is keeping all the money he gets from Graal.

Umm no. I bet Unixmad has to take up 2th and 3rd jobs lol ;)

HE has to pay for:

servers
5 staff people (he said this in a post before if i'm correct)
living costs
office costs
pay Stefan


Thats just for Graal . I'm sure he has other bills like electric , water , food , etc.

Plus he probably has bills from all the years he paid for Graal while not having p2p server.

Does Classic still have "ads" like it used to? :megaeek:

Mustang1988 03-02-2002 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Hulk Hogan
Oh yes.

Unixmad is keeping all the money he gets from Graal.

Umm no. I bet Unixmad has to take up 2th and 3rd jobs lol ;)

HE has to pay for:

servers
5 staff people (he said this in a post before if i'm correct)
living costs
office costs
pay Stefan


Thats just for Graal . I'm sure he has other bills like electric , water , food , etc.

Plus he probably has bills from all the years he paid for Graal while not having p2p server.

Does Classic still have "ads" like it used to? :megaeek:

I don't think it has ads anymore.

He also has to pay for all the domain names that he got, plus the cyberjoueur ones and stuff. Maybe when I get money I will buy a Graal License. ;)

NeoNPL 03-02-2002 03:59 PM

"Stuck in a wall?
Want your account disconnected?
Does your account need to be reset?
USE THE ARS(E?)"

That always made me laugh...

I liked old graal when it was young, no complicated scripts just everyone having fun...

Zurkiba 03-02-2002 10:00 PM

No wonder Graal was so small then... everyone ran away from the layout :D

Edit: Siggy SuXoR On Grey!

Sir_Gareth 03-02-2002 10:35 PM

AAHAHAH
Stuck In a wall,
AHHAHAHAHA

that shillarous..use the ARS...i rember that :P

SabLee 03-03-2002 06:38 AM

HE TOOK MY ACCOUNT unixmad killed me *cries* its sad really you now have to pay 40 bucks for a game.

Domini 03-03-2002 03:32 PM

Hawk:

I agree, get off unixmads back, he is atleast trying his best.

unixmad 03-03-2002 03:47 PM

Old and site and support
 
That's really nice to read messages where you support what we are doing.

That’s right that Graal cost a lot of money:

* We have dedicated Bandwidth, currently 15Mb/s
* Two full racks with a lot of computers
* Office in Paris (that cost a lot)
* Salaries: next week we will be 8 full time peoples on the company

- 2 peoples making graphics
- 2 programmers (Stefan and a new one that is starting this Monday)
- 1 programmer to make PHP code and web site
- Me
- Someone that is translating Graal in other languages
- Starting next week we will have a full time Game Master (someone that you all known but keep the name secret for now)

All this cost a lot and with subscriptions we don't pay half of the charges...

About the old Graal, I have found on the archive.org a older web pages from 1998 ! Who have played this version ?

http://web.archive.org/web/199812011...ish/graal.html

Domini 03-03-2002 03:52 PM

Re: Old and site and support
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
That's really nice to read messages where you support what we are doing.

That’s right that Graal cost a lot of money:

* We have dedicated Bandwidth, currently 15Mb/s
* Two full racks with a lot of computers
* Office in Paris (that cost a lot)
* Salaries: next week we will be 8 full time peoples on the company

- 2 peoples making graphics
- 2 programmers (Stefan and a new one that is starting this Monday)
- 1 programmer to make PHP code and web site
- Me
- Someone that is translating Graal in other languages
- Starting next week we will have a full time Game Master (someone that you all known but keep the name secret for now)

All this cost a lot and with subscriptions we don't pay half of the charges...

About the old Graal, I have found on the archive.org a older web pages from 1998 ! Who have played this version ?

http://web.archive.org/web/199812011...ish/graal.html

Hawk:

Yes, unixmad, you are doing a good job, wow, alot of people starting to work, that means more updates for graal and such, right on :) Keep up the good work.
And, yes, I played that version in '98 I was in the Red Dragons.

Jebbyo 03-03-2002 03:53 PM

Re: Old and site and support
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
That's really nice to read messages where you support what we are doing.

That’s right that Graal cost a lot of money:

* We have dedicated Bandwidth, currently 15Mb/s
* Two full racks with a lot of computers
* Office in Paris (that cost a lot)
* Salaries: next week we will be 8 full time peoples on the company

- 2 peoples making graphics
- 2 programmers (Stefan and a new one that is starting this Monday)
- 1 programmer to make PHP code and web site
- Me
- Someone that is translating Graal in other languages
- Starting next week we will have a full time Game Master (someone that you all known but keep the name secret for now)

All this cost a lot and with subscriptions we don't pay half of the charges...

About the old Graal, I have found on the archive.org a older web pages from 1998 ! Who have played this version ?

http://web.archive.org/web/199812011...ish/graal.html

cha-ching big cash monies.
i wonder who the new gamemaster is.

psihunter 03-03-2002 04:02 PM

Re: Re: Old and site and support
 
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Originally posted by Jebbyo


cha-ching big cash monies.
i wonder who the new gamemaster is.

same here

Jebbyo 03-03-2002 04:05 PM

i think im gonna upgrade for another year with my next paycheck

Domini 03-03-2002 04:06 PM

Hawk:

Quite easy.
It's either Mr. Bear, or Galen.
(I have Ibonic in my mind for some reason but nevermind that) :)

Kaimetsu 03-03-2002 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Domini
Hawk:

Quite easy.
It's either Mr. Bear, or Galen.
(I have Ibonic in my mind for some reason but nevermind that) :)

Let's pray for the latter.

Jebbyo 03-03-2002 04:14 PM

if Mr. bear becomes gm i will throw up on myself, and Galen would be an excellent choice :D

unixmad 03-03-2002 04:54 PM

Not Mister Bear neither Galen...

He is a good friend of Galen..

Quote:

Originally posted by Domini
Hawk:

Quite easy.
It's either Mr. Bear, or Galen.
(I have Ibonic in my mind for some reason but nevermind that) :)


ZanderX 03-03-2002 05:16 PM

Re: Old and site and support
 
Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
That's really nice to read messages where you support what we are doing.

That’s right that Graal cost a lot of money:

* We have dedicated Bandwidth, currently 15Mb/s
* Two full racks with a lot of computers
* Office in Paris (that cost a lot)
* Salaries: next week we will be 8 full time peoples on the company

- 2 peoples making graphics
- 2 programmers (Stefan and a new one that is starting this Monday)
- 1 programmer to make PHP code and web site
- Me
- Someone that is translating Graal in other languages
- Starting next week we will have a full time Game Master (someone that you all known but keep the name secret for now)

All this cost a lot and with subscriptions we don't pay half of the charges...

About the old Graal, I have found on the archive.org a older web pages from 1998 ! Who have played this version ?

http://web.archive.org/web/199812011...ish/graal.html

I do the best that I can to defend you and support you without directly insulting other people. :)

NeoNPL 03-03-2002 06:08 PM

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- 2 programmers (Stefan and a new one that is starting this Monday)
- Starting next week we will have a full time Game Master (someone that you all known but keep the name secret for now)



About the old Graal, I have found on the archive.org a older web pages from 1998 ! Who have played this version ?
http://web.archive.org/web/199812011...ish/graal.html

the new programmer: yey someone else to bug:rolleyes:

The new GM: Yay lets hope he does the work

The old graal: I rememer that it was fun!

The Office: In this pic it looks bit small?


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