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unixmad

02-19-2002 02:58 PM

Credit Card Frauds

For the peoples that complain about accounts that have been banned because of credit card fraud:

I have banned yesterday group of accounts that were using credit card without the owner permission or the owner of the credit card have asked refund for the transaction.

All the account I have banned yesterday where using the same credit card for upgrading 20 to 50 accounts.

Yesterday I have only managed half of the paper that the bank have send to us, I will manage the other half today.

For peoples that use credit card from friends, do you really think someone will pay for your account for free or because you give some gralats as return ?

The peoples that do that not only stole us but they push us to raise the price of the subscriptions.

Some peoples think they are not stilling because they pay for game subscriptions but what will you say if a company is hiring you for a work and pay you with a fake credit card ? That's the same for us, 5 peoples in the Linux cyberjoueurs company are working full time for you guys.

joseyisleet

02-19-2002 03:05 PM

-=Chicken=-

Hey man my accoutn was hacked banned and now ur saying i Done credit card Fraud im 14 wtf rofl,man my friend did buy me that for my birthday and now its banned i mean WTF!,err ok im done i dont care im just annoyed

Kaimetsu

02-19-2002 03:14 PM

Re: -=Chicken=-

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Originally posted by joseyisleet
Hey man my accoutn was hacked banned and now ur saying i Done credit card Fraud im 14 wtf rofl,man my friend did buy me that for my birthday and now its banned i mean WTF!,err ok im done i dont care im just annoyed

Obviously your 'friend' used a fake CC.

Zelgadis_Geywords

02-19-2002 03:17 PM

Anyone who uses a fake CC to pay for Graal is really sad. =/ Even with the raised price, what Unixmad is asking for is still a rather small price. But it's up to you guys. Is it worth it to use fake CC's, punishing the players who actually paid for their accounts?

Ultima_P2P

02-19-2002 03:21 PM

Alot of peoples accounts are banned, some for decent reasons (hacking etc.) and some for CC fraud.

Some people know that thier account isnt frauded (sp?), but they still get this notice. Like chicken up there I was like there when his account got upgraded. His friend payed for it, simple as that.

(I rekon it was a nice b-day present :))

Zelgadis_Geywords

02-19-2002 03:26 PM

This account once belonged to my friend. But when it runs out, I'd be willing to upgrade it with money out of my own pocket. Or..buy a new one.

joseyisleet

02-19-2002 03:27 PM

-=Chicken=-

its not like graal isnt perfect,Like when Stefan and stuff got in truble with Nintendo cause of dah Old name Zelda online.,heh but my account wasen Fraud or nuffin so yah its kinda unfair and annoying there should be like a Trial or something like that to make it fear and if they beleive you Your account is back and you get refuned the hours that it was banned for if they can keep track of it

Slaktmaster

02-19-2002 03:27 PM

What if someone actually did pay for 20 accounts?

Birdbird_0

02-19-2002 03:27 PM

it also happens when you use your parents/gardians/close famlys card and they get the bill laybed "Paris Frace Cyberjour" not graal, they say they didnt buy that and cancle it

Faheria_LAT1

02-19-2002 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
"Paris Frace Cyberjour"

I think it's 'Something Cyberjoueur'

Ultima_P2P

02-19-2002 03:31 PM

HeHe!
[Sarcasm]
Maybe make it so you can mail them 40 odd dollars in the mail!;)
[/Sarcasm]

joseyisleet

02-19-2002 03:36 PM

-=Chicken=-

Damned straight ultima lol,nah im not agreeing that its alright for CC Fraud but there are some people who havent done it and have been Accused and banned for it

funnylinkwantsbomys

02-19-2002 03:38 PM

make it so it bills like graal instead of what ever that is so no one is confuzed

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 03:39 PM

Re: Credit Card Frauds

Quote:

Originally posted by unixmad
For the peoples that complain about accounts that have been banned because of credit card fraud:

I have banned yesterday group of accounts that were using credit card without the owner permission or the owner of the credit card have asked refund for the transaction.

All the account I have banned yesterday where using the same credit card for upgrading 20 to 50 accounts.

Yesterday I have only managed half of the paper that the bank have send to us, I will manage the other half today.

For peoples that use credit card from friends, do you really think someone will pay for your account for free or because you give some gralats as return ?

The peoples that do that not only stole us but they push us to raise the price of the subscriptions.

Some peoples think they are not stilling because they pay for game subscriptions but what will you say if a company is hiring you for a work and pay you with a fake credit card ? That's the same for us, 5 peoples in the Linux cyberjoueurs company are working full time for you guys.

...yet I know of people that have been banned unjustly. Unixmad, you need to base your banning on fact rather than an educated guess/assumption. =\

Zelgadis_Geywords

02-19-2002 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey
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...yet I know of people that have been banned unjustly. Unixmad, you need to base your banning on fact rather than an educated guess/assumption. =\

That is also true. Also, the ones who did pay fairly for the accounts will be the ones to suffer the ramifications that ensue in the future when the company is damaged, wether the banning is just, or unjust.

joseyisleet

02-19-2002 03:47 PM

-=Chicken=-

Ummm Righto bah green text screw it ehhe

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords

That is also true. Also, the ones who did pay fairly for the accounts will be the ones to suffer the ramifications that ensue in the future when the company is damaged, wether the banning is just, or unjust.

I'll probably stop playing Graal soon, unless 2230 or Oasis are very good, and not taken over by Stefan.

I play Graal because it's an ok game, and it's cheap, but I'd rather be paying a little more for Ultima Online now than Graal.

Kaimetsu

02-19-2002 03:51 PM

Chicken, see sense. Your friend upgraded it with a fake CC, so it got banned. This is how it should be.

Zelgadis_Geywords

02-19-2002 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey

I'll probably stop playing Graal soon, unless 2230 or Oasis are very good, and not taken over by Stefan.

I play Graal because it's an ok game, and it's cheap, but I'd rather be paying a little more for Ultima Online now that Graal. It's a much better game with professional management.

I am mainly a forums junkie. That is what I love about Graal. Though, there are other games that I prefer over this one. This game would also be better with professional management, as you say. I'm around on Graal because I have yet to see Faheria completed. :p

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords

I am mainly a forums junkie. That is what I love about Graal. Though, there are other games that I prefer over this one. This game would also be better with professional management, as you say. I'm around on Graal because I have yet to see Faheria completed. :p

Lately I've stopped playing Graal and I mainly post on the forums... I'm really waiting in 2230 though, It looks great.

Zelgadis_Geywords

02-19-2002 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey

Lately I've stopped playing Graal and I mainly post on the forums... I'm really waiting in 2230 though, It looks great.

Graal 2230 looks and sounds like a lot of fun. I'd try it out. :)

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords

Graal 2230 looks and sounds like a lot of fun. I'd try it out. :)

I hear you can get spaceships. Woo!

joseyisleet

02-19-2002 04:12 PM

-=Chicken=-

Hmm i agre with the CC Fraud but Unix is doing the banning wrongfully he needs facts not Hints and all

Kaimetsu

02-19-2002 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey

I hear you can get spaceships. Woo!

Yeah, though their ultra-talented scripter guy probably won't get any thanks for it...

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Yeah, though their ultra-talented scripter guy probably won't get any thanks for it...

You did the scripting, I take it.

Kaimetsu

02-19-2002 05:06 PM

Re: -=Chicken=-

Quote:

Originally posted by joseyisleet
Hmm i agre with the CC Fraud but Unix is doing the banning wrongfully he needs facts not Hints and all

What makes you think he doesn't have facts? He gets a statement saying that a credit card was used unlawfully and he removes the account using that card. Where's the ambiguity?

Birdbird_0

02-19-2002 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Yeah, though their ultra-talented scripter guy probably won't get any thanks for it...

The server won't go up for development till 2k2 is out :(, but I assure you, you already have alot of gratitude for your assistance already, and if you help in the furutre with full credits.
(yes in the movie intros and such there are credits ono)

Bird2prey

02-19-2002 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0

The server won't go up for development till 2k2 is out :(, but I assure you, you already have alot of gratitude for your assistance already, and if you help in the furutre with full credits.
(yes in the movie intros and such there are credits ono)

What about Kingdoms and that? Will they exist in some form?

Kaimetsu

02-19-2002 05:35 PM

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:-D

Loriel

02-19-2002 11:18 PM

Stupid people around here x.x
Tell me one reason why Unixmad should keep your accounts running while getting no money for it.

Graal2230 x.x *wants*

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_

02-19-2002 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
Stupid people around here x.x
Tell me one reason why Unixmad should keep your accounts running while getting no money for it.

Graal2230 x.x *wants*

I hope you don't *want* because you can use staff weapons :(
Come role-play with us like normal people :)

DragonX2

02-20-2002 01:26 AM

I'm sorry :( .
The first account I used "DragonBladesX" was payed with a legal cc, I got so into the game I wanted to stay longer and so I found a guy (Cymerian) who upgraded (which lasted a long time) and he upgraded my account, it got banned yesterday but luckily I payed with a real cc (from my parents) and it was unbanned (phew). I'm so sorry about getting it upgraded with a fake cc, it was so long ago I didn't know any better back than. :( .

NeoNPL

02-20-2002 03:18 AM

Re: -=Chicken=-

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Now thats what i call a friend:rolleyes:

02-20-2002 03:37 AM

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man, I love you're english! :D

Faheria_LAT1

02-20-2002 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by Zelgadis_Geywords

I'm around on Graal because I have yet to see Faheria completed. :p

mmmmkay: Process has jumped to over 50% more than a month ago, i'm thinking mid-may unless we get some more help with levels/more dedicated ones.

Carlo Gambino

02-20-2002 03:57 AM

Unixmad,
I'm so sorry for what happend. I know I disagreed with you about Godspeed but I didn't mean to contribute to this credit card fraud.

I simply asked Zwr or someone to upgrade my account for graalets. Is there any way I can get my account back? I will pay for it myself this time.

Marle

02-20-2002 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1

mmmmkay: Process has jumped to over 50% more than a month ago, i'm thinking mid-may unless we get some more help with levels/more dedicated ones.

beg silver to let me on the team. ;D

Jinx	02-20-2002 04:48 AM

My account was one of them banned =/

I guess my friend used a stolen credit card, I didn't upgrade it, he offered to upgrade it for me.

But what I dont get is why you HAVE to buy for a 12 month account or else you account is deleted.

They double the price of subscribing, then force you to buy it or else your account will be destroyed.

And why can't you play on free servers still? Accounts get upgraded so they can play on p2p servers.

-Jinx

Kaimetsu

02-20-2002 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx
My account was one of them banned =/

I guess my friend used a stolen credit card, I didn't upgrade it, he offered to upgrade it for me.

But what I dont get is why you HAVE to buy for a 12 month account or else you account is deleted.

They double the price of subscribing, then force you to buy it or else your account will be destroyed.

And why can't you play on free servers still? Accounts get upgraded so they can play on p2p servers.

-Jinx

Uh...? Because your account was the subject of illegal credit card fraud and you're not entitled to anything?

Falcor

02-20-2002 10:19 AM

no one could be this stupid, this is a dream. reminds me if what i read on www.actsofgord.com

sadsadsad

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