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AlkarenHyralt 02-03-2002 08:12 AM

Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Yes, Alkaren is finally posting his ideas for Graal 2002, even though he is speaking in the third-person for no reason and he has never seen the server, he still wants to add his ideas. Since I know zero about GScript, some of these things may not be possible, if so that's fine, after all these are just ideas (sorry if some of this has been posted before).


Beginning The Adventure

Ok, now since 2002 is going to be a role-playing server, I suggest these things when you first sign on, and if you are a new character you can choose your alignment:
  • Lawful Good
  • Lawful Neutral
  • Lawful Evil
  • Neutral Good
  • True Neutral
  • Neutral Evil
  • Chaotic Good
  • Chaotic Neutral
  • Chaotic Evil

And depending on the alignment you choose, you are limited to the class (or race if that was ever put in) you can be.

Classes

Well, if you are going to be role-playing you are going to have different classes and people can only choose certain classes based on their alignment (an you see an chaotic evil paladin? of course not!) Classes I can think of, and as you level up your classes increase to a more powerful one if you choose or you can stay with that class and learn all the skills or spells for that class (-- denotes the more powerful version)
  • Warrior
    --Knight
    --Dragoon (Lancer)
  • Rouge
    --Ranger
    --Druid
  • Paladin
    --Templar
  • Priest
    --Cleric
    --High Priest
    --Herbalist
  • Mage
    --Wizard
    --Necromancer
    --Archmage
  • Soldier
    --Archer
  • Bard
    --(none)
  • Fallen Paladin
    --Blackguard

I can go into details, skills, etc and all of that if that kind of class system is possible.


Gaining and losing experience, and staying alive

Well, if you want to put some realism into 2002, than people need to eat, and drink to stay alive. Every so often...like maybe an hour real time you have to eat something, and maybe every hour and a half you have to drink something. If you don't you start to lose experience (part I doubt can be done). And you can maybe carry some sort of canteen and maybe a bag to keep water and food in, to eat.

Now, since people who have been playing longer will have an unfair advantage over new people, if you kill someone who is too low in levels (experience), or far lower than you, then you lose a lot of experience, depending on how much lower they are than you. This will give newer people a better chance, also you can choose to be either non-pk or for pking at the beginning. Non-pkers are never allowed to kill another player, ever. If they kill someone just once, then they become a PKer forever, and resetting doesn't change it. PKers are the only ones that can be attacked by players though. That way non-pkers are never attacked, and never have to worry about people attacking them. PKers, are PKers forever as well. (Non-pkers only become pkers when they kill another player, this does not count for npcs)

Now, gaining experience is sort of how I proposed to keep newer players safe, but the opposite of that. The higher in levels (experience) the person you are killing is the more experience you will get from them.

Equipment

Since I have never played on 2002, will someone explain to me how it is currently set up? Or is it just, level 2 or 3 shield, and level 1, 2, or 3 sword? Depending on how it is currently set up, I'll give my ideas for it.

Kingdoms, cities, etc

Ok, since there are kingdoms, there should be other sorts of things as well. Like cities within the kingdoms. With each city being run by a mayor, council, military leader, etc, depending on that kingdom's type of leadership. And there are guards and stuff walking around the cities (kind of like Manny and Paul, but who interact with the players to a certain degree).

Outside of these kingdoms though are other things, smaller things if you will. Like independent city-states, small towns, maybe even an independent imperialistic empire. These are mainly npc run but players can choose to be a part of them if they choose (like through an npc or whatever). And they cannot be taken over; they are just there to improve the role-playing.



Well, this is all I can write at this moment, given my limited knowledge of 2002. Sorry again if some of this has been posted before (and yes I know there is a thread about this already :p)

TrueHeaT 02-03-2002 08:14 AM

I don't agree, because when I roleplay I liek to use characters of all different alignment and things. I don't want it to be set.

psihunter 02-03-2002 08:16 AM

Re: Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
Yes, Alkaren is finally posting his ideas for Graal 2002, even though he is speaking in the third-person for no reason and he has never seen the server, he still wants to add his ideas. Since I know zero about GScript, some of these things may not be possible, if so that's fine, after all these are just ideas (sorry if some of this has been posted before).


Beginning The Adventure

Ok, now since 2002 is going to be a role-playing server, I suggest these things when you first sign on, and if you are a new character you can choose your alignment:
  • Lawful Good
  • Lawful Neutral
  • Lawful Evil
  • Neutral Good
  • True Neutral
  • Neutral Evil
  • Chaotic Good
  • Chaotic Neutral
  • Chaotic Evil

And depending on the alignment you choose, you are limited to the class (or race if that was ever put in) you can be.

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I sense a bit of Balders Gate

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:17 AM

Re: Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
Yes, Alkaren is finally posting his ideas for Graal 2002, even though he is speaking in the third-person for no reason and he has never seen the server, he still wants to add his ideas. Since I know zero about GScript, some of these things may not be possible, if so that's fine, after all these are just ideas (sorry if some of this has been posted before).


Beginning The Adventure

Ok, now since 2002 is going to be a role-playing server, I suggest these things when you first sign on, and if you are a new character you can choose your alignment:
  • Lawful Good
  • Lawful Neutral
  • Lawful Evil
  • Neutral Good
  • True Neutral
  • Neutral Evil
  • Chaotic Good
  • Chaotic Neutral
  • Chaotic Evil


The alignment thing should be based on your actions. You start at true neutral, and depending on your actions, you shift towards good or evil, law or chaos.

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:19 AM

Re: Re: Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter


I sense a bit of Balders Gate

Dungeons & Dragons. The classes are just named a little differently.

AlkarenHyralt 02-03-2002 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
I don't agree, because when I roleplay I liek to use characters of all different alignment and things. I don't want it to be set.

Not set, but I really didn't go into much detail here, simply because I would rathar get a reaction first. As I said, the alignment you choose will effect the classes you can choose from. But your alignment is not set in stone. It will change depending on your actions. But you have to keep a type of alignment for some classes to keep it's magic and stuff. For example, if a paladin's alignment starts dipping near neutral, or evil that paladin will lose it's powers. But that's only an example. I think it would be stupid myself to make your alignment set permently. Sorry for not going into detail.

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt



Not set, but I really didn't go into much detail here, simply because I would rathar get a reaction first. As I said, the alignment you choose will effect the classes you can choose from. But your alignment is not set in stone. It will change depending on your actions. But you have to keep a type of alignment for some classes to keep it's magic and stuff. For example, if a paladin's alignment starts dipping near neutral, or evil that paladin will lose it's powers. But that's only an example. I think it would be stupid myself to make your alignment set permently. Sorry for not going into detail.

The second a paladin does an evil act, he is no longer a paladin. He cannot redeem himself.

The second a paladin does a chaotic act, he must confess his sin to a priest.

Gangster88 02-03-2002 08:28 AM

good ideas alk:D

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:29 AM

By the way, Druids are in no way rogues. Every Druid is a member of the larger Druid orginisation.

Also a thief class would be nice.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-03-2002 08:32 AM

Stefan said that there will be more classes, but what you will do will mold your future. If you wish to live the life of a thief, you will gain valuable theivery attributes.

Beowulf2 02-03-2002 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Stefan said that there will be more classes, but what you will do will mold your future. If you wish to live the life of a thief, you will gain valuable theivery attributes.
Not like Graal2002 will matter at all once Project Ego comes out for Xbox.

TrueHeaT 02-03-2002 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beowulf2

Not like Graal2002 will matter at all once Project Ego comes out for Xbox.

Not like ANYTHING will matter when it comes out.

Flameuss 02-03-2002 08:40 AM

rofl you dont need to select classes all you do is say your neutral its not roll playing if you select how oftn do you see a guy asking you if you want to be a paladin a ranger or archer? you just become one and set your nickget it?

psihunter 02-03-2002 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flameuss
rofl you dont need to select classes all you do is say your neutral its not roll playing if you select how oftn do you see a guy asking you if you want to be a paladin a ranger or archer? you just become one and set your nickget it?
The jackass is strong in this one!

Brad 02-03-2002 08:43 AM

I like alignment but yes its the same as baldurs x.x. But if we have evil classes etc. I would love it. I love roleplaying as a completely evil traveling sorcerer :D

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:43 AM

Re: Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

Classes

Well, if you are going to be role-playing you are going to have different classes and people can only choose certain classes based on their alignment (an you see an chaotic evil paladin? of course not!) Classes I can think of, and as you level up your classes increase to a more powerful one if you choose or you can stay with that class and learn all the skills or spells for that class (-- denotes the more powerful version)
  • Warrior
    --Knight
    --Dragoon (Lancer)
  • Rouge
    --Ranger
    --Druid
  • Paladin
    --Templar
  • Priest
    --Cleric
    --High Priest
    --Herbalist
  • Mage
    --Wizard
    --Necromancer
    --Archmage
  • Soldier
    --Archer
  • Bard
    --(none)
  • Fallen Paladin
    --Blackguard


Hold on a sec, are these just class categories or you become another class upon reaching a certain level?

I don't want my RP ranger to become a druid.

psihunter 02-03-2002 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
I like alignment but yes its the same as baldurs x.x. But if we have evil classes etc. I would love it. I love roleplaying as a completely evil traveling sorcerer :D
I love roleplaying as a evil dark demonic soul stealer bent on controling the human realm

Brad 02-03-2002 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter

I love roleplaying as a evil dark demonic soul stealer bent on controling the human realm

Thats alike mine except I am hellbent on destroying all things that bring light to the world. My other character is a Druid set on destroying all man made things :D :D :D. His arch enemy is Dustari for there lack of respect of the forest...((his kingdom is forest))

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:48 AM

I just hope they include Elves as one of the races.

How would I make my RP character without it? :p

Brad 02-03-2002 08:51 AM

Nick:Reliko Denevoir
Class:Druid
Alignment:Chaotic Evil
Goals:To rid the world of the menisome Dustari
Special Ability:To be able to transform into numerous animals as well as using the elements as an advantage
Favorite Attack:Crow. Morphs into a crow :D

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
Nick:Reliko Denevoir
Class:Druid
Alignment:Chaotic Evil
Goals:To rid the world of the menisome Dustari
Special Ability:To be able to transform into numerous animals as well as using the elements as an advantage
Favorite Attack:Crow. Morphs into a crow :D

Name: Cleofis Randolph
Class: Ranger
Alignment: Neutral Good
Favorite Attack: Elven Courtbow

psihunter 02-03-2002 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
Nick:Reliko Denevoir
Class:Druid
Alignment:Chaotic Evil
Goals:To rid the world of the menisome Dustari
Special Ability:To be able to transform into numerous animals as well as using the elements as an advantage
Favorite Attack:Crow. Morphs into a crow :D

Haheheh

Ok then
Name: Unknown alias Ghost Pirate
Class: Demon
Alginment: Hellish Chaotic Evil
Goals: To Control the Human Realm
Speical Abilitys: Soul Stealing, Summoning, Hell Fire
Favorite Attack: Soul Stealing

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psihunter


Haheheh

Ok then
Name: Unknown alias Ghost Pirate
Class: Demon
Alginment: Hellish Chaotic Evil
Goals: To Control the Human Realm
Speical Abilitys: Soul Stealing, Summoning, Hell Fire
Favorite Attack: Soul Stealing

Heres another one of mine

Name: Telemachus Del'mini
Class: Mage
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Goals: To become a God
Abilities: Summon Fell deitly, stop time, rain fire, death hand
Favorite attack: Summon Fell Deity.

Faheria_LAT2 02-03-2002 09:15 AM

Re: Alkaren presents...his ideas for 2002!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
Yes, Alkaren is finally posting his ideas for Graal 2002, even though he is speaking in the third-person for no reason and he has never seen the server, he still wants to add his ideas. Since I know zero about GScript, some of these things may not be possible, if so that's fine, after all these are just ideas (sorry if some of this has been posted before).


Beginning The Adventure

Ok, now since 2002 is going to be a role-playing server, I suggest these things when you first sign on, and if you are a new character you can choose your alignment:
  • Lawful Good
  • Lawful Neutral
  • Lawful Evil
  • Neutral Good
  • True Neutral
  • Neutral Evil
  • Chaotic Good
  • Chaotic Neutral
  • Chaotic Evil

And depending on the alignment you choose, you are limited to the class (or race if that was ever put in) you can be.

Classes

Well, if you are going to be role-playing you are going to have different classes and people can only choose certain classes based on their alignment (an you see an chaotic evil paladin? of course not!) Classes I can think of, and as you level up your classes increase to a more powerful one if you choose or you can stay with that class and learn all the skills or spells for that class (-- denotes the more powerful version)
  • Warrior
    --Knight
    --Dragoon (Lancer)
  • Rouge
    --Ranger
    --Druid
  • Paladin
    --Templar
  • Priest
    --Cleric
    --High Priest
    --Herbalist
  • Mage
    --Wizard
    --Necromancer
    --Archmage
  • Soldier
    --Archer
  • Bard
    --(none)
  • Fallen Paladin
    --Blackguard


this sounds a lot like everquest =P any argees with me?

Googi 02-03-2002 10:21 AM

Umm...no, I think the idea of Graal2002, is to reach realism (Well, the way things were in like, the 1300's and such)

Gangster88 02-03-2002 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi
Umm...no, I think the idea of Graal2002, is to reach realism (Well, the way things were in like, the 1300's and such)
2002 is going to be like an rp game i think

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi
Umm...no, I think the idea of Graal2002, is to reach realism (Well, the way things were in like, the 1300's and such)
And to further that we put in GoKarts. :rolleyes:

Gangster88 02-03-2002 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bird2prey


And to further that we put in GoKarts. :rolleyes:

yea heh:D

Xythar 02-03-2002 10:30 AM

Set classes suck. As said before, your stats increase as you use the correlating skill. For example, if I use magic constantly, my magic will rise. If I use my sword often, my strength rises. Exceptionally basic, no?

Xythar 02-03-2002 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bird2prey


And to further that we put in GoKarts. :rolleyes:

Please don't get me started. They already have gokarts and CS.

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xythar
Set classes suck. As said before, your stats increase as you use the correlating skill. For example, if I use magic constantly, my magic will rise. If I use my sword often, my strength rises. Exceptionally basic, no?
Hmm. Well, magic isn't something you can just start doing some day. It takes years of schooling and reading dusty old tomes. :p

Googi 02-03-2002 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bird2prey


And to further that we put in GoKarts. :rolleyes:

I know :(

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Googi


I know :(

Get rid of GoKarts all together I say. Horses would be best.

Xythar 02-03-2002 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bird2prey


Get rid of GoKarts all together I say. Horses would be best.

And replace draisine with horses as well! Read other thread for the full, exciting details. :rolleyes:

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xythar


And replace draisine with horses as well! Read other thread for the full, exciting details. :rolleyes:

Replace the Draisine with Griffyn Rider transport.

Gangster88 02-03-2002 10:42 AM

dont replace anything:D

Xythar 02-03-2002 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangster88
dont replace anything:D
Or you could just stay on 2k1 and leave us alone?

Faheria_LAT1 02-03-2002 10:57 AM

Faheria's Roleplay will own G2K2's mainly because there will be too many mini-games/jobs like G2K1 on G2K2. =P

Bird2prey 02-03-2002 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1
Faheria's Roleplay will own G2K2's mainly because there will be too many mini-games/jobs like G2K1 on G2K2. =P
Ack, damn those min-jobs to hell.

02-03-2002 11:07 AM

the alignment thing should start off on neutral on both sides, then depending on your actions against other players and in quests, it would decide which quests you could do.


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