Idling @ Bomb Trade
 

I wanted to ask what the reason for idling in bomb trade is? Why don't you get disconnected, when idling in there. I think it's kind of frustrating when you come online and all you see is dead people standing there. Whenever you pm somebody, you get no answer, because in fact that persons aren't there at all. Shouldn't this be removed, so that it's clear who is really aviable, and who's not?
It's dissapointing to come online, because you think there are 15 active player and in fact noone's there. I see no reason in "collecting" onlinetime, by letting your computer+graal run, while you are sleeping.

It's intransparent for people, logging on, aswell as for noobs, who never get answers from players. I think it would be better to remove this idle-type of not getting disconnected because of not moving, since it does not display the real playercount/activity. Pointless thing here imo.

What do you guys think of it (not getting disconnected at bomb trade room)? Are you for or against it?

I'm not particularly for or against idling, but just wanted to point out that in the playerlist, players who are idling are marked with an "idling" icon (assuming you and they are on v6).

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I would like to see the "no disconnect" feature gone.

I don't see any reason for not allowing idling in bomb trade. As Chris pointed out it shows who's idling and who isn't. I like to leave GK running over night to catch PMs from people who don't usually play at the same time as me due to time zone differences.

You can use AIM/MSN or whatever instead though.

So both have to use v6, so that idling is shown in playerlist? v5 doesn't change into that mode, or did I get you wrong?

The idling icon works for me and I'm on v5. Unless I somehow stealth installed v6 but I don't think so...

edit: wait whatever i dont know which version im on. i have the idling icon whatever

It's not about the idling icon itself. I just see no reason why this "fake playercount" should be allowed at all. It doesn't represent the real playercount. Whenever I log on, to play or chat a bit (or whatever), I have to realize, that noone's there.
In fact it's a "10 sec checklogon" if anyone is here. That function is pointless and irritating especially to new players, who think they get no response because they're noob. It should be an active server, and not simply a chatroom, where you idle.

I don't see how this is an issue. The idling icon is pretty clear. You log on and see a bunch of idlers? Log off if you don't like it. It takes 10 seconds of your time to log on and check the playerlist. There are bigger issues than idlers to worry about.

As far as I know, both players need v6—but v6 will be mandated soon anyway.

I don't quite understand why some people are against people idling, games have people who idle all the time, why decide to inconvenience those who idle over those who don't for "just because!".

Oh I hope not, I HATE V6

V5 for life

Idling helps boost playercount. Would you rather log onto a server with 40 players or 13 players?

I noticed you also voted against forced bmode in the recent poll. If you want changed like this it's better to suggest a way to discourage it rather than outright disabling it.

Forced bmode has nothing to do with this or did you guys plan to make tradehouse bmode aswell? Forced bmode would only make sense if kingdoms on gk get important again, like it was back in 2005 and so on. (defending your mates etc). If we force people to have b-mode right now, then the strongest will lame the weaker non-topgear ones which will make the "neat" gk community a damn hell on earth for low budget players and haters will ruin the community. You all want a change? Fkn reactivate kingdoms, make special kingdom items, so that people are motivated to join. Make Stefan Knorr invest some money on ads, to raise pc-graals popularity, like it was in the early 2000years when he used the name "zelda online", which made graal popular, even though nintendo complained. We need more players, more attention on Pc-graal and not this shitty iphone-version. Back in 2000, when akira, nychris, tecmush, shobre, majin, james and all that guys played, the only thing we needed were kingdoms who fought each others. If someone was afk standing there, he fkn got banged, so there was no idling. Almost everyone was b-mode, because we defended ourselves. But now? Who shall i defend if I went b-mode? Maybe the dancing Bokolf in bombtrade, if he joins my kingdom?
Gk needs players, needs noobs, needs attention and some advertisment, but that's a manager-question and not a question of turning b-mode on for everyone.
I'm really thankful for the staff, trying to reactivate this server but we won't e able to, unless we rename this game to "zelda online" again but I guess Nintendo wouldn't be that happy about it, like in the old times, even though GRAAL became famous through that copyright"mistake". I played this game, since I was 12. Now I am 23 and the only thing keeping me so interested in this Game are the memories from early days and the hope it'll become like that again. (sry if I made typing errors, cuz typing on iphone)