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Andre2006 02-06-2012 08:50 AM

This window is really annoying
 
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Is there any way to only have this window showing once. It keeps coming up every time I connect to Era and I have to wait 10 seconds to be able to walk.

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cbk1994 02-06-2012 09:23 AM

Upgrading to v6 will make it go away.

Logababy 02-06-2012 09:25 AM

When I was using v5 it only came up once then I never saw it again!

Andre2006 02-06-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1683792)
Upgrading to v6 will make it go away.

I will, once it gets released without bugs.

bloodykiller 02-06-2012 09:42 PM

v6 blows atm

Fiberwyre_P2P 02-06-2012 10:17 PM

The only major benefit that V6 has over V5 is the Mass button.
other than that, it's worse.
Can't upload graphics with it
Can't record video with it
etc.

Emera 02-06-2012 10:24 PM

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Can't upload graphics with it
this. annoys the hell out of me.

Kohola_KinG 02-06-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1683834)
The only major benefit that V6 has over V5 is the Mass button.
other than that, it's worse.
Can't upload graphics with it
Can't record video with it
etc.

You can still have the mass button on v5. F3>General>options and select in game playerlist. Hit F7 and click on mass pm :D

fowlplay4 02-06-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1683834)
Can't upload graphics with it
Can't record video with it
etc.

1. The uploading issue is a problem with their script and can be fixed.
2. There are free programs like CamStudio to record video as well.

TSAdmin 02-06-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1683838)
2. There are free programs like CamStudio to record video as well.

You'd likely end up with better quality with higher compression by using something other than the built-in recorder, anyway.

cbk1994 02-06-2012 11:39 PM

You can upload from v6 now. If there are any other bugs with v6 that are Era-specific, please post them here, PM me, or make a support ticket in-game.

Supaman771 02-08-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Andre2006 (Post 1683789)
Is there any way to only have this window showing once. It keeps coming up every time I connect to Era and I have to wait 10 seconds to be able to walk.

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This^
I personally will never upgrade to v6 due to:

A. It's way laggier.
B. I'd have to get used to it.
C. v5 works just fine.
D. It probably won't be completed anytime soon.
E. I'm not gonna use it if the player-list isn't outside the client.

Thus, don't punish me for no reason; if anything add this screen for trials telling them to get gold.

TSAdmin 02-08-2012 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1683945)
This^
I personally will never upgrade to v6 due to:

A. It's way laggier.
B. I'd have to get used to it.
C. v5 works just fine.
D. It probably won't be completed anytime soon.
E. I'm not gonna use it if the player-list isn't outside the client.

Thus, don't punish me for no reason; if anything add this screen for trials telling them to get gold.

A. I'd have to agree, there. Initial releases of V6 impressed me with how much smoother it was than V5. It could've been a V5 type of optimisation upgrade pre-addition of random new stuff.
B. Irrelevant. Change happens in everything. If you're unwilling to get used to change, you can't hope to run an interesting life. Everything always the same, every day, every year.
C. See A. V5 needed to be improved. It felt like it was in V6 early. Then everything piled into it made V6 worse than V5.
D. No argument from me. Feeling this way, too.
E. It already is. You can set it to be internal or external (Same with PM windows). This is insignificant in a list of reasons.

DustyPorViva 02-08-2012 02:42 AM

Ah, annoying players into submission. Effective.

WillaWonka 02-08-2012 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1683945)
This^
I personally will never upgrade to v6 due to:

A. It's way laggier.
B. I'd have to get used to it.
C. v5 works just fine.
D. It probably won't be completed anytime soon.
E. I'm not gonna use it if the player-list isn't outside the client.

Thus, don't punish me for no reason; if anything add this screen for trials telling them to get gold.

A. It's MUCH much MUUUCH better for Macs, since v5 I always had 10FPS fullscreen, now I have 21FPS Fullscreen.
B. There isn't much difference in interface between either.
C. For you ya.
D. It already feels complete (To mac users), in fact, it feels more complete the v5 did for Mac.
E. Like TSA said, you can change the player list/other pop-ups to internal instead of external.

Jurisdiction: v6 Benefits Macs but is not fairly compatible with Windows (or Linux?!?!?)

fowlplay4 02-08-2012 05:53 AM

V6 just has to overcome the major issues with players who remain on V5.

1. Performance needs to be better.
2. Playerlist needs to be feel and look like V5.
3. GUIs need to be adjusted for the new font rendering. It's kind of ridiculous it wasn't changed to emulate Windows V5's look.

If V6 doesn't meet the above criteria players are just going to be pissed off about the new client because it doesn't really offer players anything.

punkrules 02-08-2012 10:22 AM

A. Pizza?!
B. Pizza?!
C. Pizza?!
D. Pizza?!

Pizza.

Supaman771 02-08-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by punkrules (Post 1683989)
Pizza.

I haven't tried V6 in a few updates so I do hope they added external player-lists and are almost finished with it. This doesn't really change the fact that I don't feel the need to change because there's no super awesome benefits to changing, it's the same thing... don't fix what's not broken at this point.

V6 may be better for macs, but definitely not for [my] windows.

cbk1994 02-09-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1684010)
I haven't tried V6 in a few updates so I do hope they added external player-lists and are almost finished with it. This doesn't really change the fact that I don't feel the need to change because there's no super awesome benefits to changing, it's the same thing... don't fix what's not broken at this point.

The external playerlist has been in the v6 client since before the closed beta.

It's not a case of fixing something that's not broken. v6 adds lots of new features and optimizations that scripters can use, as well as some bug fixes.

Supaman771 02-09-2012 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1684043)
The external playerlist has been in the v6 client since before the closed beta.

It's not a case of fixing something that's not broken. v6 adds lots of new features and optimizations that scripters can use, as well as some bug fixes.

I still don't find it in my best interest to update, being that I lag far worse on the v6 client and it doesn't fit how I currently play. I've had my screens the same for 7 years... I'm not gonna get used to a new way if it doesn't benefit me.

The window should only come up once and inform players, not every time you reconnect, that's just rude. Or better yet, put something on the front login page.

cbk1994 02-09-2012 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1684057)
I still don't find it in my best interest to update, being that I lag far worse on the v6 client and it doesn't fit how I currently play. I've had my screens the same for 7 years... I'm not gonna get used to a new way if it doesn't benefit me.

Can you give me a summary of your hardware (graphics card, memory, OS, 64/32 bit, etc.)?

Also, have you tried running in the various compatibility modes, disabling Aero, running in OpenGL?—even if it's temporary it would help to diagnose the problems. I've been trying to replicate them but on every system I can get my hands on v6 runs far better than v5.

Crono 03-15-2012 08:08 PM

bump.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1683982)
V6 just has to overcome the major issues with players who remain on V5.

1. Performance needs to be better.
2. Playerlist needs to be feel and look like V5.
3. GUIs need to be adjusted for the new font rendering. It's kind of ridiculous it wasn't changed to emulate Windows V5's look.

If V6 doesn't meet the above criteria players are just going to be pissed off about the new client because it doesn't really offer players anything.

Exactly this.

Supaman771 03-15-2012 09:23 PM

Kinda annoying that if I get d/ced or reconnect or the server crashes then I have to wait...

Why is this window still there and ONLY on Era... put a ****ing main news post on the login screen if it is important, don't hinder our gameplay.

Emera 03-15-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1688701)
Kinda annoying that if I get d/ced or reconnect or the server crashes then I have to wait...

Why is this window still there and ONLY on Era... put a ****ing main news post on the login screen if it is important, don't hinder our gameplay.

If you're really that annoyed just play using V6.

DustyPorViva 03-15-2012 09:41 PM

Nagware.

Crono 03-15-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1688702)
If you're really that annoyed just play using V6.

No, because:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1683982)
V6 just has to overcome the major issues with players who remain on V5.

1. Performance needs to be better.
2. Playerlist needs to be feel and look like V5.
3. GUIs need to be adjusted for the new font rendering. It's kind of ridiculous it wasn't changed to emulate Windows V5's look.

If V6 doesn't meet the above criteria players are just going to be pissed off about the new client because it doesn't really offer players anything.


Supaman771 03-16-2012 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1688702)
If you're really that annoyed just play using V6.

I seriously can't.

My fps doesn't pass 15 on v6, I'm incapable of playing on it.

Plus I straight don't like it.

RogueShatterblade 03-16-2012 01:34 AM

I have v5 on my laptop and v6 on my desktop

both are equally stupid when you don't pk

Tim_Rocks 03-16-2012 02:10 AM

Rogue, I have the same problem on my desktop PC. What fixed it for me was just making the window slightly smaller, you'd have to play with it a little. That's the most I've been able to increase FPS on my desktop PC.

Supaman771 03-16-2012 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1688742)
Rogue, I have the same problem on my desktop PC. What fixed it for me was just making the window slightly smaller, you'd have to play with it a little. That's the most I've been able to increase FPS on my desktop PC.

Doesn't mean I should be forced to use v6 by your obnoxious 10 second update window. My screen is plenty small, and already prevents me from seeing entire levels, how many more disadvantages do I need.

They don't care enough to even post it on the news page, why should I have to wait 10 seconds just to login Era?

I'm not going to update, just remove the ****ing thing.

salesman 03-16-2012 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1688744)
I'm not going to update, just remove the ****ing thing.

You're going to have to eventually whenever v5 is completely phased out. You should post in the v6 bugs thread about your FPS issues before you're stuck with them!

cbk1994 03-16-2012 02:32 AM

I've set the window to only show once now, typically on the second login. You'll probably see it once more but then you won't see it again (at least for now).

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1688745)
You're going to have to eventually whenever v5 is completely phased out. You should post in the v6 bugs thread about your FPS issues before you're stuck with them!

It's been brought up a lot, Stefan just doesn't seem to notice when it is.


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