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Draenin 01-31-2012 02:06 AM

Most Wanted Improvements
 
Okay, let me go ahead and say these things ahead of time to save a lot of pointless debating.
  • The results of this poll do not accurately represent an opinional consensus whole of the entire Graal playerbase.
  • This poll is purely for the purpose of inquiry for a small division of the community which uses the forum.
  • This is not some kind of affront toward administrators. It's just to see where there might be a lot of demand for improvements.

With that said, I've tried to be as broad as possible with the choices presented in this poll. Try to vote for the things you think matter most, and remember that you're wasting your vote if you select everything or nothing.

If you wish to regard information from the results as rubbish, feel free to do so. But I think it might be in the interest of people on the forums, so let's see where things go, shall we?

callimuc 01-31-2012 03:06 PM

Actually there needīs to be an update in all things

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Website (Layout, Web 2.0 Features, Theme, Content)
Could be in need of some new style. Or at least have a little option scroller somewhere where people can toggle it since some people might want to keep this design, while a new design could be more friendly for new people

Business Approach (Subscriptions, Rentals, Promotions, Gelat Shop)
Speaking of Super Rewards: They need to get updated. There are always old links which have been already used by the user and just like 50% are not working at all.

Game Client (Bug Fixes, Options, Controls, Video Capture, Voice Chat)
There are so many small bugs with the Default system (movement and stuff) which also have been on iClassic. Well they fixed it there (at least some) but there should be a global fix of them (like with the horse that you can move through 1 tile thick walls to the bottom/right). Iīm sure there are a lot of more bugs where players already wonīt pay that much attention because they are used to them.

Development Tools (RC, GraalEditor, GraalShop, TerrainGen, LevelGen)
The GraalShop really needīs an update which can maybe support different stuff (being able to see the CHANGEIMGCOLOR changes in the GraalShop, maybe supporting different alpha images, not 8bit images only and stuff). Pretty much the same counts for the GraalEditor which should be able to atleast debug GS2 scripts (doesnīt have to run them).

Content (Quality and Quantity)
(If I understood it correctly) there should be more default features/images/ganis/... which can be used by servers which just started (even though they are dead in 1 month). Wouldnīt require players to come to the forums and look up every single content. Or there should be one thread (maybe hosted by PWAīs) where people can get different shared things (ganis, graphics, scripts) which would be sorted. Could clear up a lot of confusion if people are showing some stuff for suggestions while some people might think they are shared or whatever.

User Education (Tutorials, Instructional Videos, User Mentoring)
Tutorials are mostly server based, but some stuff probably wonīt change on the most servers (map opening, inventory, moving keys, ...) so maybe there should be a little option at the login, showing what keys do what. Maybe there should be a .txt somewhere in the Graal folder having everything documented. There is one though, but thatīs in the shields folder (looked for it at a v6 version of Graal which I downloaded a few weeks ago and actually didnīt change anything in there).

Content Integration (Multi-Platform & Multi-Website Integration)
Not sure how this is handled by Stefan/Unixmad, but servers should have a better chance of going at least FB. Or there should be one FB version where you can login to any Graal server just like when you would install it. Stuff could get limited though (no client RC and stuff). Could get some peoples attention from FB without having just iClassic as option (and soon probably iEra) where a lot of people are raging.


This are things how I see it. Probably a lot of stuff is not possible/wonīt get changed, but Iīm sure some things could get changed.

Draenin 01-31-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by callimuc
User Education (Tutorials, Instructional Videos, User Mentoring)
Tutorials are mostly server based, but some stuff probably wonīt change on the most servers (map opening, inventory, moving keys, ...) so maybe there should be a little option at the login, showing what keys do what. Maybe there should be a .txt somewhere in the Graal folder having everything documented. There is one though, but thatīs in the shields folder (looked for it at a v6 version of Graal which I downloaded a few weeks ago and actually didnīt change anything in there).

By this section, I mostly mean users educating other users about how to do difficult things. Not server developers teaching players how to play the game.

Several categories in this poll relate directly to players, so don't just think it's calling for change from administrators alone.

callimuc 01-31-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1683270)
By this section, I mostly mean users educating other users about how to do difficult things. Not server developers teaching players how to play the game.

Might have stated it wrong. But I didnīt mean that single servers should do it. With the login I ment the login server where you log into before you join a server. There should be somewhere such a button.

Having players teach others something can work out good, but than mostly on servers with FAQs. A general quick tutorial with the basic and most used keys would do it too.

Draenin 01-31-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by callimuc
A general quick tutorial with the basic and most used keys would do it too.

Writing up a tutorial for how to put stuff like that in your server so you don't have to explain it yourself to every player would fall under User Education too. :D

Cubical 01-31-2012 07:26 PM

You guys are aware users can create developer tools yourself using gscript?

Draenin 01-31-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1683278)
You guys are aware users can create developer tools yourself using gscript?

I am well aware. I chose not to include it in the poll because of character limitations.

However, I would even say that's a problem with User Education because not enough people are aware of useful scripted tools or they don't know how to make them. Unfortunately, scripting is not a skill everyone has.

James 01-31-2012 11:37 PM

everything

dude2020 02-01-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1683290)
everything

This.

Geno 02-01-2012 01:03 AM

i know this poll didnt get that many votes

papajchris 02-01-2012 01:47 AM

Why do people keep making threads about improving Graal? It's not going to improve until management can improve.

Draenin 02-01-2012 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1683299)
Why do people keep making threads about improving Graal? It's not going to improve until management can improve.

Hopefully you made your choices reflect what you're saying. ;)

anubis_wing 02-01-2012 06:09 AM

Development tools means better development, which in turn means better servers, which means more players, which means more advertisement, which means more players, which means better developers, which means better servers, etc.

Fulg0reSama 02-01-2012 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing (Post 1683317)
Development tools means better development, which in turn means better servers, which means more players, which means more advertisement, which means more players, which means better developers, which means better servers, etc.

Only if it were so simple.

Draenin 02-01-2012 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1683319)
Only if it were so simple.

Scripted tools could really change the development scene if they were released as one solid package. However, I would suggest some kind of voting system for which tools get included in package updates on the forums. I can think of several tools right now which would accelerate game development on every server if more people were aware of them.


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