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Fiberwyre_P2P 01-09-2012 02:39 AM

New Gang Base
 
I think I speak for more than just myself when I say that the darkness in the new gang base is annoying.

The idea itself isn't a bad one, but having to go through the darkness all the way to the basement to get a TEMPORARY pair of NVGs just doesn't make for good raiding. It makes the basement more important than the actual control point.

Personally I'm done raiding until the Night Vision Goggle situation is remedied.

I say we should be able to buy permanent NVGs (or, you know... make the EC item work in the gang base.)

Tim_Rocks 01-09-2012 02:47 AM

I'll fix this. :)

Supaman771 01-09-2012 04:23 AM

The Idea could be implemented well if done right.

The cutting power/fuse box thing seemed cool back when Sales showed us the fuse box and Alfonso was gonna use it somehow.

I believe, if it wasn't pure black, but a haze overshadow and the player had a maze raceish sight range around them it would work. Then, since there's lights on the walls of all the bases have those also emit similar sight range circles. This would give a fair visual of the entire level and work in-hand with the mini-map for the Gmap bases allowing decent playability.

Also if implemented, as said in the first post, you could make the NV Goggles that already exist as a EC item work in these situations. Make them require batteries and go to town with night operations.

If everything is executed correctly, I don't really see a problem with this if it is only a situational thing (someone who owns the base can cut the power maybe once every 30-60 minutes... it lasts 3-5 minutes or until someone repairs the fuse box by grabbing it for 15 seconds).

Would be fun and spice it up imo, a lot funner than the current +1 bullet damage and +25healing for base owners (seriously; that's overpowered).

bloodykiller 01-09-2012 10:50 PM

focus on making the bases the right size 1st

Tim_Rocks 01-10-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1681326)
Would be fun and spice it up imo, a lot funner than the current +1 bullet damage and +25healing for base owners (seriously; that's overpowered).

We're trying to improve that by making a mini game to cut the wires properly, if you fail you get shocked. I also removed the extra bullet damage (sorry). I'm not sure the +25 healing is that big of a deal though.

bloodykiller 01-10-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1681415)
We're trying to improve that by making a mini game to cut the wires properly, if you fail you get shocked.

i hope ur not serious, cuz if i want to play a mini game i can just go to miniclip

Supaman771 01-10-2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1681415)
We're trying to improve that by making a mini game to cut the wires properly, if you fail you get shocked. I also removed the extra bullet damage (sorry). I'm not sure the +25 healing is that big of a deal though.

:3 a mini-game would be cute.

That seems to be the smart move. Mp5 was never meant to deal 21 damage, and PBP was nerfed to 24 for a reason, haha.
+25 healing is a huge deal, I can heal fully in 5 ticks (as opposed to 13). It honestly makes defending too simple, especially with the heal room fully doored off. Someone can legit heal 50hp or ~half hp before you can break down the door to chase them. +15 would be better imo, you get the bonus but you can't necessarily abuse that bonus.

Currently if you don't waste 45 seconds (enough time for them to come back to the base and kill you) to capture the base, you're fighting an inevitable loss with the insane healing they get as a reward for what... having the most members or being the first one to capture to the base?
There is nothing involved in standing still for 45 seconds that implies such a modifier as 2.5x healing to be granted.

Owning the base gives door access and points over time, it honestly needs nothing more imo. I've been on both sides of this too so don't call it a qq. I could already take down 4+ guys with ease going back and forth between the three central doors, but now I can do it without dropping under 100hp because I grab a +25 tick every time I swap doors.

To be honest those bonuses are the updates you'd expect from someone whose never PKed in their life; oh wait. At least make it reasonable.

bloodykiller 01-10-2012 01:28 AM

tim, your intentions r good but i advise you to hire a gang admin with raiding experience so that raiding can go back to normal after months

Supaman771 01-10-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1681423)
tim, your intentions r good but i advise you to hire a gang admin with raiding experience so that raiding can go back to normal after months

Can you please define or elaborate on this fabulous 'normal/old' raiding you speak so highly of?

Because honestly, I remember you raiding; and running around with 200hp laming in and out of BH doors with a riggedly overpowered RPG that allowed you to suicide charge people to death with your lag... then pulling out a p4 before you die or dropping a nuke in a heal room you can't get out of doesn't seem fun in any context.

Then again, the guy who begs for 0 freeze weapons to come out probably has a raunchy idea of fun.

natchez416 01-10-2012 07:10 AM

Riggedly.

TheLinkMan2002 01-10-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1681425)
Then again, the guy who begs for 0 freeze weapons to come out probably has a raunchy idea of fun.

take is the one who wants 0 freeze weapons, tk just wants .05 back. get your forum facts straight :P

bloodykiller 01-10-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1681425)
Can you please define or elaborate on this fabulous 'normal/old' raiding you speak so highly of?

Because honestly, I remember you raiding; and running around with 200hp laming in and out of BH doors with a riggedly overpowered RPG that allowed you to suicide charge people to death with your lag... then pulling out a p4 before you die or dropping a nuke in a heal room you can't get out of doesn't seem fun in any context.

Then again, the guy who begs for 0 freeze weapons to come out probably has a raunchy idea of fun.

u r in no position to even debate my raiding skills/knowledge since i've been the top raider on era for over a year whilst you are a mediocre pker
but anyways:
1. normal raiding=normal bases that don't encourage running in circles around them and with sewer entrances + 3-5gangs assigned to skilled and experienced raiders
2. my hp was so high compared to other ppl cuz i managed to kill way more people than average whilst raiding, the only player competing with me for top position every week was wil
3. i had lag issues for some months, then it all went back to normal (180-250ms, i have a 20mega connection but i live in europe)
4. i was curiously the only player on era using the rpg effectively, staff didn't nerf it (except slowing down rockets which i agree with) since it was far from being OP, until wil became guns admin and it was the 1st gun he nerfed basically as a personal revenge since he couldn't stand getting owned
5. i used to use p4s instead of cookies, now that i have all the guns/items i need i can waste my cash on cookies/elixers. and i only started doing it cuz katbot, smoke and other lc/bb members were, since they were tired of getting ****ted on by BH
6. i never bought a nuke at the ec shop, the only nukes i ever used were 5nukes i bought for 12k at an auction

Dragon551 01-10-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1681451)
u r in no position to even debate my raiding skills/knowledge since i've been the top raider on era for over a year whilst you are a mediocre pker
but anyways:
1. normal raiding=normal bases that don't encourage running in circles around them and with sewer entrances + 3-5gangs assigned to skilled and experienced raiders
2. my hp was so high compared to other ppl cuz i managed to kill way more people than average whilst raiding, the only player competing with me for top position every week was wil
3. i had lag issues for some months, then it all went back to normal (180-250ms, i have a 20mega connection but i live in europe)
4. i was curiously the only player on era using the rpg effectively, staff didn't nerf it (except slowing down rockets which i agree with) since it was far from being OP, until wil became guns admin and it was the 1st gun he nerfed basically as a personal revenge since he couldn't stand getting owned
5. i used to use p4s instead of cookies, now that i have all the guns/items i need i can waste my cash on cookies/elixers. and i only started doing it cuz katbot, smoke and other lc/bb members were, since they were tired of getting ****ted on by BH
6. i never bought a nuke at the ec shop, the only nukes i ever used were 5nukes i bought for 12k at an auction

No u lie I am bst raider and pker shtup
Ur just mad I flawd u wit handgun and shotgun

bloodykiller 01-10-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1681456)
No u lie I am bst raider and pker shtup
Ur just mad I flawd u wit handgun and shotgun

lol this kid is exactly y the gang system sucks atm

WillaWonka 01-10-2012 10:41 PM

Alf has a unique way of pking/sparing, utilizing grenades and guns.


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