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FullMetalJacket 12-30-2011 07:26 AM

Suggestion: Remove Sewer Elixers & Cookies
 
I understand the purpose behind these two items, I really do. If you decide to spend your ECs on such items you get to be a one man army for awhile. That was fine back when ya' know, ECs were too valuable to waste on sewer elixers and cookies, and we all were saving up for the really big event prizes.

However, I think the wide spread use of these items is taking away from an important part of the game. Raiding. If you decide to raid and you don't have friends to back you up, then you shouldn't have the option of stacking armor, food, sewer elixers, and cookies to become a one man raid team. It isn't fun for the people that actually raid with their gangs when one guy just runs in stacked with all of these items and begins laming.

If you take away all of the "one man raid" items, and equal the playing field, then people will probably start consolidating into gangs again so that they stand a chance in raids again. Honestly in the raids I've done we've had 3 one man gangs running around using sewer elixers and cookies every single time they attack, and it gets really old. These items should not be that common.

An alternative fix would be to make it so you can't trade these items either, that'll take a lot of them off the street and make them rare again.

salesman 12-30-2011 07:45 AM

all event items should be removed from the economy (i.e. you can't trade them)

Supaman771 12-30-2011 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1680042)
all event items should be removed from the economy (i.e. you can't trade them)

I'd like to refute, and state that only the 'Consumable' event items should untradeable.

Trading, lending, and giving away Flaks, Lightsabers, Pencils, Sparklers, etc. shouldn't be limited.

salesman 12-30-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1680044)
Trading, lending, and giving away Flaks, Lightsabers, Pencils, Sparklers, etc shouldn't be limited.

Ideas like this have turned Era into a breeding ground for kids who only care about their virtual currency and "rare" items.

Supaman771 12-30-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1680046)
Ideas like this have turned Era into a breeding ground for kids who only care about their virtual currency and "rare" items.

That's how it already is though?

DuBsTeRmAn 12-30-2011 12:42 PM

Idiot, you don't remove cookies

Tim_Rocks 12-30-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1680042)
all event items should be removed from the economy (i.e. you can't trade them)

This.

Pelikano 12-30-2011 04:16 PM

Sewer Elixirs and cookies shouldn't exist to begin with.

WillaWonka 12-30-2011 04:57 PM

Name will get super pissed if you remove cookies.

So if you can't beat them, join them, win a few events, buy cookies and elixirs, some armor, then it will be just as easy to 10 v 1 the person.

-.-

FullMetalJacket 12-30-2011 05:31 PM

Winning a few events and getting a few supers every now and again isn't a big deal. Buying them in bulk and using them every time you attack to effectively double your HP and give yourself instant healing to full health... well, that's a problem.

You shouldn't be able to 10 v 1 in a raid this easily. You shouldn't be given advantages like this, advantages that allow you to raid solo.

salesman 12-30-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1680049)
That's how it already is though?

Exactly why it's a problem.

smirt362 12-30-2011 08:00 PM

Sewer Elixirs?

Sounds like you're drinking raw sewage

dude2020 12-31-2011 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1680063)
Idiot, you don't remove cookies

yusoironic

bloodykiller 01-02-2012 07:25 PM

remove cookies they're just too fkn cheap..i'm saying this and i have 300+ cookies, sewer elixers r fine, on the other hand

Fiberwyre_P2P 01-06-2012 07:28 AM

remove all those things and add juggernaut bounties ;P


Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1674519)
Juggernaut Bounties:
Every 30 minutes, a $1000 bounty is put on a random player's head (denoted by a black skull). (Only selects players that are in PK zones.) Whoever has the bounty on them gains regenerating armor (up to 25 armor max) and receives 5x the amount of money they would normally get for kills.

If you spend 10 minutes in a PK zone without dying, the bounty goes away. You don't receive anything besides the money you got from PKing.

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People can also buy Juggernaut Bounties, but may only place them on themselves, and they cost $1000.


punkrules 01-13-2012 01:31 AM

Could Tim possibly disable cookies, armor, and elixers from being used in the gang base?

Supaman771 01-13-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrules (Post 1681590)
Could Tim possibly disable cookies, armor, and elixers from being used in the gang base?

Please?

Kohola_KinG 01-13-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrules (Post 1681590)
Could Tim possibly disable cookies, armor, and elixers from being used in the gang base?

If you disable them from gang bases it will resolve a problem then it will just create another problem. They are only ever used in raids very rarely are they used outside of raids. If you disable them then you might as well remove them from the shop as people won’t buy them as they are worthless to them. This leads to people not joining events because there EC’s become worthless to them. There isn’t a hell of a lot else to buy in the shop to be honest.

TheJames 01-13-2012 02:52 AM

Amen to Koho's post. They are a part of the game, let it be.

dude2020 01-13-2012 03:27 AM

What's that old Era saying?

If you think this is a huge problem, wait until you see our solutions?

PerfectDark 01-13-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrules (Post 1681590)
Could Tim possibly disable cookies, armor, and elixers from being used in the gang base?

Let it be...

bloodykiller 01-13-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkrules (Post 1681590)
Could Tim possibly disable cookies, armor, and elixers from being used in the gang base?

na tim likes to see ppl running around the "gang base" healing instead of fighting
i invite anyone who hasn't yet seen the gang bases to go check out what used to be BH, this will show you how incompetent tim is regarding gang matters
btw i have nothing against tim, it just irritates me that he thinks he knows what he's doing whilst he's building gang bases that'll only help noobs and runners..and if seeing the bases isnt enough try raiding in it, it basically works the same as avantgarde or w.e it was called

who of u actually likes to run in circles in these bases?

WillaWonka 01-13-2012 10:11 PM

uh u

Supaman771 01-13-2012 10:15 PM

The running itself isn't exactly a problem per-say, you can easily team up and corner them.. or just capture the base and use the doors for shortcuts.

But at the point where I can run in circles backpedaling + shooting for over a minute and pretty much use as many cookies as I can possibly buy in succession.

bloodykiller 01-14-2012 05:39 AM

u can easily run around for 15 secs then escape from base or yeah run and heal shooting backwards at ppl chasing u..it's as lame as it gets, it's exactly y all the furniture/walls were removed from bh and bb bases


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