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Fiberwyre_P2P 11-18-2011 01:36 AM

New Bounty System
 
3 New Bounty Types

New bounty types don't need to be accepted for them to be taken from players.
The first person to kill someone with a new type of bounty will get the bounty.
(these would be IN ADDITION to the current bounty system.)

Chain Bounties:
Every $100 earned from PKing puts a $500 chain bounty on your head (denoted by a skull with chains on it). whoever kills you gets the $500, and the bounty jumps to them for $400, and then $300 and so on. Each time a chain bounty is taken, it jumps to the bounty hunter for $100 less until it drops to $0 and disappears.

If you spend more than 15 minutes in a PK zone without being killed, you receive your own bounty, it drops down $100, and the timer resets. (repeats until it disappears.)

Gang Bounties:
Every 25 gang points you get, a $1000 bounty is put on your head (denoted by a red skull). If an opposing gang member (meaning a gang tag is required) kills you, the $1000 is split between everyone on tag in their gang.

if you spend more than 5 minutes on tag in a pk zone, the bounty is shared between your gang members on tag.

Juggernaut Bounties:
Every 30 minutes, a $1000 bounty is put on a random player's head (denoted by a black skull). (Only selects players that are in PK zones.) Whoever has the bounty on them gains regenerating armor (up to 25 armor max) and receives 5x the amount of money they would normally get for kills.

If you spend 10 minutes in a PK zone without dying, the bounty goes away. You don't receive anything besides the money you got from PKing.

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in addition to the aforementioned ways of getting these bounties, people can buy Chain Bounties that can jump 3, 5, or 7 times, depending on how much is paid for them.
3 jumps = $600
5 jumps = $1500
7 jumps = $2800

People can also buy Juggernaut Bounties, but may only place them on themselves, and they cost $1000.

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Targeted Bounties (i.e. the current bounty system) would still be the only bounties to count towards the weekly health bonus and still would require bounty hunters to accept them before killing the target.

Other bounties could grant other weekly buffs to the top bounty hunter as well.

jkldogg 11-18-2011 01:43 AM

Great idea, but they probably won't do it since they want to take money out of the economy.

Fiberwyre_P2P 11-18-2011 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1674521)
Great idea, but they probably won't do it since they want to take money out of the economy.

In my opinion, it's better for the game if they make new ways to take money out of the economy by giving us new stuff to buy, rather than preventing money from going into the economy in the first place.

So I'm still hopeful :)
(The money was mostly just an incentive to get people actually participating in the Bounties, and therefore PKing, but if there's another way without adding money to the economy, I'm all ears XD)

DarkRenji 11-18-2011 02:07 AM

Looking good.

The_Federov 11-18-2011 04:40 AM

too much reward.

TheJames 11-18-2011 04:42 AM

I am adding a simplified bounty system tommorow on Era Dev.

Fiberwyre_P2P 11-18-2011 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Federov (Post 1674532)
too much reward.

I agree it would make PKing a lot more lucrative than it is right now, but that doesn't mean it's too much reward. If people are spending more time PKing, then they're spending less time working, so theoretically, it should (or could with some tweaking) balance out, but add more fun to the game.

(Also, I realize not that many people work, and it would be more like less time standing around at unstick, and more PKing, but should economies really be balanced around people standing around not putting money in? Era's economy would be ****ed if its playerbase wasn't so lazy, or if mining was less boring.)

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Originally Posted by TheJames (Post 1674533)
I am adding a simplified bounty system tommorow on Era Dev.

Oh really? Was that influenced by this thread, or have you already been working on it?

TheJames 11-18-2011 04:10 PM

Been working on it.

Scoper 11-18-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Federov (Post 1674532)
too much reward.


Lessen the monetary amounts..drastically, IMO.
That aside, would be a huuuge encouragement to pk

bloodykiller 11-18-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1674554)
Lessen the monetary amounts..drastically, IMO.
That aside, would be a huuuge encouragement to pk


why?? do u see how expensive guns r? with these jobs (you didnt even need a workers pot before) you'd be able to get to 50k (hours and hours of working lol) and buy dual p2ks which were 1 of the best guns..i think ove was the most expensive and it was only 100k, but which seemed like a ****load
plus this would be a fun way of making money, would definitely attract active players to play this game since u wouldn't have to get bored for hours working to own ur money..but obviously u dont understand that scoper cuz u enjoy mining rofl

Scoper 11-19-2011 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1674580)
why?? do u see how expensive guns r? with these jobs (you didnt even need a workers pot before) you'd be able to get to 50k (hours and hours of working lol) and buy dual p2ks which were 1 of the best guns..i think ove was the most expensive and it was only 100k, but which seemed like a ****load
plus this would be a fun way of making money, would definitely attract active players to play this game since u wouldn't have to get bored for hours working to own ur money..but obviously u dont understand that scoper cuz u enjoy mining rofl

Don't tell me what I do and don't understand, you sound like Wil 2.0
And no, I don't enjoy mining. I did (haven't in months) most of my mining out of necessity

I say lessen the rewards because the way he has it set up right now would make it by -far- the simplest way to get a ton of money quickly.

I'm all for new ways to earn money, and i'm all for revamping the WHOLE money earning system to put out more money if people think it would fix something, but Not having a bottleneck system where one method of earning money far outshines the others.

You get what I mean? I rambled a little..

Fiberwyre_P2P 11-19-2011 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1674593)
Don't tell me what I do and don't understand, you sound like Wil 2.0
And no, I don't enjoy mining. I did (haven't in months) most of my mining out of necessity

I say lessen the rewards because the way he has it set up right now would make it by -far- the simplest way to get a ton of money quickly.

I'm all for new ways to earn money, and i'm all for revamping the WHOLE money earning system to put out more money if people think it would fix something, but Not having a bottleneck system where one method of earning money far outshines the others.

You get what I mean? I rambled a little..

If you think about the way it's set up, it wouldn't outshine any of the current jobs.

for a Chain Bounty, you would need between 10 and 100 kills (since each kill is worth $1-10), which could take maybe 10 minutes, maybe an hour, maybe 2 hours or more. It depends on how good a PKer you are and how many other people there are to kill. In total, a chain bounty is worth $1500. 500 + 400 + 300 + 200 + 100 = 1500. And it would be split (not evenly, of course) between all the people who are vying for that bounty.

Mining can net you about 5k an hour if you're a low-level miner.
Digging can net you about 5k an hour.
Car missions can net you about 4.5k an hour.
Even slot machines can net you about 1.9k an hour.

the same applies to gang bounties. 25 gang points takes a while to get. and on top of that, it's split between your gang members on tag and you have to stay alive during a raid for 5 minutes to see any of your own bounty, which is easier said than done.

Juggernaut bounties only happen once every 30 minutes, and that equals out to 2k an hour, or barely above slot machines.

It would be less money than any of the current jobs, and it would encourage PKing AND raiding. I don't see too much of a downside to it.

(also, buying Chain bounties or Juggernaut bounties wouldn't have any net effect on the economy, since you're putting in and getting out the same amount. Juggernaut bounties even have the capacity to take money out of the economy.)

TheJames 11-19-2011 04:13 AM

My bounty system:

You go speak with the 'Hitman' he then places a bounty on any random player online at the moment. You then have to kill that person. After killing the person you then receive a cash bonus plus kill bounty points. Your kill bounty points will be sort of like a token, those with higher KB points obviously are going to receive awards (undecided at this time). You gain KB points by killing assigned targets. Aswell you lose KB points if you are killed if a target is placed onto you.

The rewards will be determined by Alfonso and Zeus. I'm leaning towards certain features and upgradable options for guns such as silencers, laser scopes and whatnot. :]

The system is completed now, just awaiting approval from Zeus & Alfonso.

bloodykiller 11-19-2011 03:56 PM

i like fiberwyres idea but idk if it'll be implemented. the certain thing is that the bounty system needs to change since it's basically: "hey dude can i have your bounty so i can heal 20 in beds and have extra 10hp for a week?" or: "hey dude give me ur bounty cuz im in ur gang and u dont want other gangs to get it"

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Supaman771 11-19-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1674597)
If you think about the way it's set up, it wouldn't outshine any of the current jobs.

for a Chain Bounty

the same applies to gang bounties.

Juggernaut bounties

It would be less money than any of the current jobs, and it would encourage PKing AND raiding. I don't see too much of a downside to it.

(also, buying Chain bounties or Juggernaut bounties)

Seems really radical and would involve hours of complaining/little fixes/balancing.

What I foresee is two people hiding in some corner of the map or hidden pk area (like the parking garage/snow resort) and doing these chain bounties or whatever.

Then you come to gang bounties, people would just run in circles (tk is already crying cause he can't get any friends to raid with) or run out of the base.

The server already places bounties on players who get kill-streaks, or sometimes randomly if someones in a PK zone I believe.

Encourage PK and raiding... for 2 weeks max (see new gang system effect).

The only thing that seems fun or encouraging for this would be to buy a Juggernaut and join a long FFA or ULMS with a TG/PBP and spray. Trollol.


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