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BroozeB 11-16-2011 01:10 AM

Classic's Tile Set
 
When exploring the vast nature of Classic PC, it is common to notice not only the absolute squalid and unorganized detail of the level, but the revolting tileset as well...see here: http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...4at65339PM.pngThis tileset only puts strain on the eyes and is pure garbage. It looks like the tileset was made by some kindergartener in Microsoft Paint. The grass is green, but the red flowers stick out like a giant zit. There's absolutely no variety in the ground. The only things you'll come across are bushes, grass, and flowers, and they all contain similar colors. The worst thing about this is, when you think you've adapted to the absolute horrid colors being repeated infinitely, you see a BRIGHT BLUE building come out of nowhere. Ouch! Imagine if you were watching a video in the dark where you saw red, green, red, and then suddenly purple starts flashing in your eyes. It's torture to look at.
This tileset is dull. You might as well have only green, white, and red tiles, it seems like that's what Thor was aiming at. Seriously, everything is green. It's dull, it's BORING.
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...5at60821PM.png
Here we have iPhone's tileset, the default. I must say, this is quite an improvement compared to the desert that is Classic PC. The colors are really bright and elaborate, no two colors seem to be repeating often, and no matter what outfit you wear it always blends in nicely with the environment. Also to note, the stone path does not try to stick out in your face, nor do the yellow flowers. It also seems like the bushes are done a bit more smoothly as well.
In conclusion. Classic PC repeats the same colors over and over again, EVEN ON THE DAMN SIGNS, wheresa the default tileset is bright, colorful, and elaborate. It gives you a warm feeling, it makes you feel like you're at home playing a great game.

ffcmike 11-16-2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674299)
it is common to notice not only the absolute squalid and unorganized detail of the level

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...95/20100-1.png

(Sorry Shannon)

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674299)
but the revolting tileset as well

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maximus_asinus 11-16-2011 01:28 AM

Thor's post is all win except for the screenshot of the bridge.. I tiled that :(

BroozeB 11-16-2011 01:32 AM

Attachment 50464 That's a mistake on Azrael's part, not the whole tileset.

Attachment 50465 The battle arena no longer looks like this.

Attachment 50466 The colors blend well together.

Attachment 50467 Sorry, I forgot, only your highly reputable bridges are to be in Graal. It's a simple creative bridge, and now I think you're just finding random junk to support your opinion, when there's really nothing wrong with such.

ffcmike 11-16-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1674302)
except for the screenshot of the bridge.. I tiled that :(

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674303)
Attachment 50467 sorry, i forgot, only your highly reputable bridges are to be in graal. It's a simple creative bridge, and now i think you're just finding random junk to support your opinion, when there's really nothing wrong with such.

The tiling is fine, it's the tileset itself I am referencing.

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674303)
Attachment 50464 That's a mistake on Azrael's part, not the whole tileset.

Seems to be a pretty obvious flaw with the tileset both in terms of appearance and how well the tiles connect together.

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674303)
Attachment 50465 The battle arena no longer looks like this

http://graalcheats.files.wordpress.c...0/08/graal.png

I don't know what it looks like right now but this change that occurred later is still pretty poor.

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674303)
Attachment 50466 The colors blend well together.

Now there's nothing wrong with these castle wall tiles themself, but I don't think it was at all their intended purpose to blend with the traditional castle carpet tiles/edges, if you think these blend well together I'm not sure why you think the original tiles clash with eachother.

MattKan 11-16-2011 01:39 AM

While I also agree that the Classic tileset isn't fantastic and may not be of good enough quality for a server of such ambition, the tileset is extremely nostalgic, being an emblem of Classic itself, and taking it away would change the server drastically.

Fulg0reSama 11-16-2011 01:40 AM

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...fiwPFVUJKHL_qZ

Nerd Fight!

ffcmike 11-16-2011 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1674306)
While I also agree that the Classic tileset isn't fantastic and may not be of good enough quality for a server of such ambition, the tileset is extremely nostalgic, being an emblem of Classic itself, and taking it away would change the server drastically.

I've always maintained that I would not be opposed to improvements being made to the original tileset, but in the event of having a specialist graphics artist of a high capability I'd prefer such work to be focussed on the creation of new content for an indefinite amount of time.
I don't necessarily support the original tileset for nostalgic purposes, but I do feel it contributes towards the appropriate mood for what is primarily an adventure server.

DustyPorViva 11-16-2011 01:53 AM

Is this a troll topic? The original pics1(the one seen in the OP) is the best iteration of pics1. The updated one in 2001 looks like trash compared to it, and the one the iPhone uses is just a mashup of a bunch of graphics that don't match and also looks like utter ****.

The original may not be perfect, nor have awesome graphics, but compared to all the other ones it has style and it looks halfway decent.

BroozeB 11-16-2011 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1674304)
I don't know what it looks like right now but this change that occurred later is still pretty poor.

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...5at65100PM.png
I'm seriously loving how the only difference are the pillar tops on iPhone, and the bottom piece. By the way, bricks look much better than...whatever that is on PC's Battle Arena.

ffcmike 11-16-2011 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BroozeB (Post 1674313)
I'm seriously loving how the only difference are the pillar tops on iPhone, and the bottom piece. By the way, bricks look much better than...whatever that is on PC's Battle Arena.

I actually agree that the Battle Arena is somewhat out-dated and could be a lot smoother, and I may change that once the Castle Quest and Events etc are out of the way and touching up the overworld becomes more of a priority.
But why iPhone decided it was necessary to change it, only to apply those changes I don't know, if you're going to change something original it should be for the sake of making it look better or more consistent with the purpose of the building. Those changes just look like a case of somebody with no respect for the history of the server wanting to make something feel like it's "theirs".

FaLLChiLD 11-16-2011 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1674312)
...and the one the iPhone uses is just a mashup of a bunch of graphics that don't match and also looks like utter ****.
...

Pretty much what I was thinking as I ran around. Also, why replace the cliff tiles with some half-assed unfinished garbage to boot?

ffcmike 11-16-2011 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD (Post 1674318)
Also, why replace the cliff tiles with some half-assed unfinished garbage to boot?

Ironically...

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1558771)
Part of the reason why we modified the graphics is also so that people cannot say it's just a ripoff of Zelda.

Despite the fact the cliff tiles are not actually ripped from LTTP.

DustyPorViva 11-16-2011 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1674319)
Despite the fact the cliff tiles are not actually ripped from LTTP.

To say the Graal cliffs look similar enough to Zelda that they were worried about people calling it a ripoff is an insult to Link to the Past.

FaLLChiLD 11-16-2011 02:57 AM

Guess people are in for a shock when they stumble upon the PC version and realize that we are just a ripoff of Zelda! :noob:

/sarcasm


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