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xAndrewx 10-23-2011 11:41 AM

I don't like...
 
A to open doors - i liked it at first, but I like it so much more when you just have to touch it.

A to reload - why not auto reload?

Chat commands - :unlock, :lock (why not toggle with mouse click?)

jw

MrDunne 10-23-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1671520)
A to open doors - i liked it at first, but I like it so much more when you just have to touch it.

A to reload - why not auto reload?

Chat commands - :unlock, :lock (why not toggle with mouse click?)

jw

I'm not an Era player but I believe chat commands are the biggest UI blunder since, well, the existence of Graal. Excessive use of chat commands shows there's something deeper is going wrong with the UI as a whole. Perhaps lack of qualitative output from the graphics department? I don't know but they're bad.

TSAdmin 10-23-2011 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1671520)
A to open doors - i liked it at first, but I like it so much more when you just have to touch it.

A to reload - why not auto reload?

Chat commands - :unlock, :lock (why not toggle with mouse click?)

jw

A to open doors - So you don't accidentally walk into it and end up inside when all you're trying to do is dodge bullets in a gun fight.

A to reload - There's an "Auto reload" in the Options > Weapons section, but that's just for when you change your weapons (EG: Going from Neo Rifle to BAR, both using the same ammo, but different clip sizes). I think that alone should be fixed up, and "Auto reload" be changed to actually auto reload when the clip is run dry rather than when switching weapons of the same ammo type.

Chat commands - I'd like to see something like a "House Control" GUI come up everytime you enter your house and disappear when you leave it that gave you all the buttons and fields you need to perform all the tasks you can do with the chat commands. As for other things, I'm not sure where else chat commands are used like that, other than the /commands, but there's not much you can do to compact all of those commands into a gui and be able to use them as quickly as just typing in exactly what you want to do.

bloodykiller 10-23-2011 12:55 PM

if u dont even have to click A (with right timing) to open a door then how easy will it become to run away from a fight??
and dont take off the reload/change gun thing lmao, it's the most (maybe only) useful thing that this management has been able to bring to era..also considering that knowing when to and finding the right time to reload is a skill, like it or not

Crow 10-23-2011 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1671520)
A to reload - why not auto reload?

Didn't you introduce that click sound when the clip is empty? :p

WillaWonka 10-23-2011 03:15 PM

If you don't like pressing A to open doors, then change the command to spacebar or something. ;)

papajchris 10-23-2011 03:30 PM

You guys are missing the point. guns have different reload times. I would be annoyed constantly if the guns reloaded automatically. imagine this, you are pking when you just freeze and get shot a few times. Part of pking is timing your reload.

And the chat commands for doors is more simple than a GUI

WillaWonka 10-23-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1671530)
You guys are missing the point. guns have different reload times. I would be annoyed constantly if the guns reloaded automatically. imagine this, you are pking when you just freeze and get shot a few times. Part of pking is timing your reload.

And the chat commands for doors is more simple than a GUI

Yeah like trying to switch to my taurus, worse gun in the game.

xAndrewx 10-23-2011 04:06 PM

Here's the code for mouse clicking a door
HTML Code:

function onActionLeftMouse() {
  if (player.account in this.door_Access) {
    this.door_open = !this.door_open;
    this.chat = "Door" SPC (this.door_open? "Opened":"Closed") @ "!";
    setTimer(5);
  }
}

function onTimeout() {
  this.chat = " ";
}


I don't mind the reload if people like it- but the doors are annoying as hell lol

Scoper 10-23-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1671533)
Here's the code for mouse clicking a door
HTML Code:

function onActionLeftMouse() {
  if (player.account in this.door_Access) {
    this.door_open = !this.door_open;
    this.chat = "Door" SPC (this.door_open? "Opened":"Closed") @ "!";
    setTimer(5);
  }
}

function onTimeout() {
  this.chat = " ";
}


I don't mind the reload if people like it- but the doors are annoying as hell lol


I'll start offering that as an option to people for their storage doors, thanks for the tip.

Crono 10-23-2011 06:40 PM

having to use a mouse on graal outside of the usual OOC gui stuff (playerlist, serverlist, etc) is a big no-no. =[

salesman 10-23-2011 07:05 PM

Pretty sure Era used to have auto-reloading at one point, but it was changed back right away because you don't always want to reload right when you run out of ammo.

For example, when a wall of bullets is coming at you and you want to wait until after you dodge them to reload.

e: if reloading didn't have a freeze associated with it, then yeah, auto-reloading would be nice.

Crow 10-23-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1671541)
having to use a mouse on graal outside of the usual OOC gui stuff (playerlist, serverlist, etc) is a big no-no. =[

This.

MrDunne 10-23-2011 07:39 PM

Yes, moving from keyboard to mouse is very slow and there would be absolutely no benefit. Try it, it can really slow you down doing that all the time.

xAndrewx 10-23-2011 08:11 PM

I think I'm used to iOS stuff lol

I suppose Era PC doesn't offer weekly ammo stuff too

bloodykiller 10-25-2011 02:28 AM

who cares about storage doors, just dont change doors that involve pk


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