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Gunderak 10-21-2011 05:29 PM

First Real Go At LAT
 
First attempt at creating something half decent.
Images made in photoshop.
Yes I know it needs more detail.
I am going to add one of them wooden bars that you tie horses to as well.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7237/latbh.png

kalabar24 10-21-2011 06:56 PM

you should add variety to your building.

You could use other tiles then just the house tiles.

and in the sand, put some of the rocks and stuff to make it look more desert-like.

Gunderak 10-21-2011 07:05 PM

Thanks for the feedback, will do :)
I am relatively new to LAT I don't quite know all the tricks of the trade as of yet ;)

Emera 10-21-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunderak (Post 1671410)
Thanks for the feedback, will do :)
I am relatively new to LAT I don't quite know all the tricks of the trade as of yet ;)

Nice head xD

xXziroXx 10-21-2011 07:37 PM

I'd suggest sticking to scripting ^^

Emera 10-21-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1671414)
I'd suggest sticking to scripting ^^

You think he's bad? You gotta see my levels...

ff7chocoboknight 10-21-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1671415)
You think he's bad? You gotta see my levels...

I have; and they're awful.

DeCeaseD 10-21-2011 11:26 PM

o_O.. that's a level.. ? Looks more like a sand pit with a small building and some ugly cactus images. x_x

iBeatz 10-21-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ff7chocoboknight (Post 1671416)
I have; and they're awful.

The bluntness with which you stated that made me laugh.

Gunderak 10-22-2011 03:43 AM

lol il stick to scripting..
And thanks @Emera it's a Lego head xD
Anyone want it? lol.
Only took 10mins of photoshop.

DrakilorP2P 10-22-2011 03:57 AM

The cactuses could be brighter, and the level needs tumbleweed.

Tigairius 10-22-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P (Post 1671434)
The cactuses could be brighter, and the level needs tumbleweed.

Well... I think the bigger issue with the cacti is their perspective- it's entirely wrong! They appear as if you are staring at them from ground level, but Graal's perspective is more of an aerial view.

fowlplay4 10-22-2011 07:28 AM

Why don't you try leveling something that isn't boring (not a plain desert).

Gunderak 10-22-2011 08:59 AM

@Fowlplay I want to try and make a Western styled server so I'm going to stick with the desert theme.

MrDunne 10-22-2011 12:07 PM

You can still make an interesting level using a desert theme. There's nothing stopping you there.

The cacti looks bad and doesn't do the level any justice. As others have said, the perspective is wrong and also the colouring and shading isn't great either. I do, however, think having cacti in there will help providing they look ok.

You're going to need to spice up the terrain a little bit. You can add other plant life other than cacti. If you look at the following image, this gives you an idea of what I mean:

http://jameswdunne.com/desert_9.jpg

Another thing to consider is that a desert isn't a straight flat surface, like it appears in your level. Simulating a desert's dunes in Graal will be difficult but there are things you can try that are inspired by it. This will require using a different set of tiles for the ground than the one you're currently using. Although it's not a stellar example of level design, see what's done here. Must ask you to disregard everything that isn't brown/yellowish.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...3&d=1045758647

You could also use cliffs. I can't describe exactly what I mean but if you see the following image, it should give you an idea:

http://www.worldbiomes.com/pics/monumentvalley.jpg

My last piece of advice might be a little bit ahead of where you want to go with this. Currently, the graal's desert tiles are pretty plain and could be improved. I would recommend looking at changing these - they can be improved in subtle ways. The current desert tiles are quite flat, where as sand has ripples. I remembering seeing something on Bomy Moon but I can't seem to find an example now...

Hopefully I've been of help. I don't think you should just stick to scripting. If it interests you, continue! A lot of people have started out with uglier work than this - not just on Graal but everywhere. Good skills rarely come naturally, it's the desire to have them that counts most. You can learn, it just takes a little bit of time, lots of practice and, most importantly, good amounts of feedback. I remember when I used to show my levels to Snakeandy and WanDaMan. They were rubbish but thanks to their feedback they got better. They're still not great but without the practice + feedback I would have never have progressed.

Gunderak 10-22-2011 01:03 PM

wow.
That's actually really helpful, rep + when I'm on pc.
Thanks for taking the time to help.

Kamaeru 10-24-2011 11:02 PM

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