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bloodykiller 09-09-2011 05:24 AM
era's non-progress
 
even UN has more online players than era now lol, the thing that amazes me is that alfonso manages to be online most of the day and not get any tangible updates done..just host an auction or give away guns in events..idc do something

gaben 09-09-2011 05:25 AM
what exactly is 'doing something'? either way I doubt anything will change just because of this thread. they don't have to listen to you, you know. but once again - it's always been like that... suggestion threads usually get nowhere around these parts

edit: aren't they releasing a new gmap soon?

DustyPorViva 09-09-2011 05:34 AM
Eh, shouldn't have screwed over SNK from the manager position. He seems to be doing a great job over at iEra.

Dragon551 09-09-2011 05:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667539)
even UN has more online players than era now lol, the thing that amazes me is that alfonso manages to be online most of the day and not get any tangible updates done..just host an auction or give away guns in events..idc do something
Actually I've been occupied with work lately and real-life issues that have not allowed me to be as efficient. Sure I might be on "daily" but you're wrong about me being on for most of the day. I was on for about half an hour today max. I come home from work at around 5 PM and pretty much don't have time to stay on Graal for the rest of the day. I do take a lot of my work at home in an attempt to have less to do but lately it's been harder for me to keep up.

However I assure you I'm trying my best to manage Era and keep the development server going in my absence. (Although you'll probably just ignore this and deny it anyways)

Hope this explains my lack of activity lately and doesn't just start another hate thread :p

DustyPorViva 09-09-2011 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1667542)
Actually I've been occupied with work lately and real-life issues that have not allowed me to be as efficient. Sure I might be on "daily" but you're wrong about me being on for most of the day. I was on for about half an hour today max. I come home from work at around 5 PM and pretty much don't have time to stay on Graal for the rest of the day. I do take a lot of my work at home in an attempt to have less to do but lately it's been harder for me to keep up.

However I assure you I'm trying my best to manage Era and keep the development server going in my absence. (Although you'll probably just ignore this and deny it anyways)

Hope this explains my lack of activity lately and doesn't just start another hate thread :p
Respect for not simply locking the thread. I always hoped that one day a manager would come around that wouldn't simply lock every thread that talks even slightly bad about the server.

NicoX 09-09-2011 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667539)
even UN has more online players than era now lol, the thing that amazes me is that alfonso manages to be online most of the day and not get any tangible updates done..just host an auction or give away guns in events..idc do something
Who are you ?!

Tim_Rocks 09-09-2011 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1667543)
Respect for not simply locking the thread. I always hoped that one day a manager would come around that wouldn't simply lock every thread that talks even slightly bad about the server.
Challenge accepted.

WaDaFack 09-09-2011 02:34 PM
make gettin money ez n mayb ppl will play?!?!?!?!?

WillaWonka 09-09-2011 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1667542)
Actually I've been occupied with work lately and real-life issues that have not allowed me to be as efficient. Sure I might be on "daily" but you're wrong about me being on for most of the day. I was on for about half an hour today max. I come home from work at around 5 PM and pretty much don't have time to stay on Graal for the rest of the day. I do take a lot of my work at home in an attempt to have less to do but lately it's been harder for me to keep up.

However I assure you I'm trying my best to manage Era and keep the development server going in my absence. (Although you'll probably just ignore this and deny it anyways)

Hope this explains my lack of activity lately and doesn't just start another hate thread :p
Soft tacos can't wrap themselves ya kno ;)

Gambet1337 09-09-2011 04:16 PM
Give era to someone who is not busy then o.0

dude2020 09-09-2011 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1667572)
Soft tacos can't wrap themselves ya kno ;)
Jesus, you work at taco bell? I'm so sorry.

Supaman771 09-09-2011 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667539)
even UN has more online players than era now lol, the thing that amazes me is that alfonso manages to be online most of the day and not get any tangible updates done..just host an auction or give away guns in events..idc do something
I thought about making this thread a few days ago when the Era forums lacked any posts for a week straight, but I thought it would be a waste of time since they already showed us they don't plan on doing anything.

Agreeing with you for once.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1667542)
Actually I've been occupied with work lately and real-life issues that have not allowed me to be as efficient. Sure I might be on "daily" but you're wrong about me being on for most of the day. I was on for about half an hour today max. I come home from work at around 5 PM and pretty much don't have time to stay on Graal for the rest of the day. I do take a lot of my work at home in an attempt to have less to do but lately it's been harder for me to keep up.

However I assure you I'm trying my best to manage Era and keep the development server going in my absence. (Although you'll probably just ignore this and deny it anyways)

Hope this explains my lack of activity lately and doesn't just start another hate thread :p
This would make a great resignation post.
Since it pretty much says "I can't do the the job I'm supposed to do because of blah."

Awhile back I posted something about the Gang Shop not being "finished or released" and Alfonso yelled at me on Era because it is "finished". So; who here sees it?

The last thing that actually got completed development wise was that good old 90% completed Gang System that required a force feeding by William and myself to finish. It has yet to be executed properly and sits unfinished and self-destructive.
That was two months ago.

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Originally Posted by gaben (Post 1667540)
edit: aren't they releasing a new gmap soon?
Mesh got fired.
Tre got fired.
I basically stopped working after ^ and because of v
Rachel is as useless now as when she was actual staff.
Motive's levels blow [word choice here], and he's a [word choice here] about everything.
I don't know who else is a level artist/assigned to it.

xAndrewx 09-09-2011 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1667602)
I thought about making this thread a few days ago when the Era forums lacked any posts for a week straight, but I thought it would be a waste of time since they already showed us they don't plan on doing anything.

Agreeing with you for once.



This would make a great resignation post.
Since it pretty much says "I can't do the the job I'm supposed to do because of blah."

Awhile back I posted something about the Gang Shop not being "finished or released" and Alfonso yelled at me on Era because it is "finished". So; who here sees it?

The last thing that actually got completed development wise was that good old 90% completed Gang System that required a force feeding by William and myself to finish. It has yet to be executed properly and sits unfinished and self-destructive.
That was two months ago.



Mesh got fired.
Tre got fired.
I basically stopped working after ^ and because of v
Rachel is as useless now as when she was actual staff.
Motive's levels blow [word choice here], and he's a [word choice here] about everything.
I don't know who else is a level artist/assigned to it.
wow you rock!! Keep up the good work

RogueShatterblade 09-09-2011 11:25 PM
it's hard to really make an educated guess as to how things are moving given the dev server is private and updates are scarce, but it seems to be looking pretty f*cking bleak.

Tim_Rocks 09-09-2011 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1667602)
I don't know who else is a level artist/assigned to it.
Hi.

Venom_Fish 09-10-2011 12:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1667542)
Actually I've been occupied with work lately and real-life issues that have not allowed me to be as efficient. Sure I might be on "daily" but you're wrong about me being on for most of the day. I was on for about half an hour today max. I come home from work at around 5 PM and pretty much don't have time to stay on Graal for the rest of the day. I do take a lot of my work at home in an attempt to have less to do but lately it's been harder for me to keep up.

However I assure you I'm trying my best to manage Era and keep the development server going in my absence. (Although you'll probably just ignore this and deny it anyways)

Hope this explains my lack of activity lately and doesn't just start another hate thread :p
Then why are you manager? o.O?
You were just as unavailable / inefficient as Co-Manager.
However, our mighty Player World Administration team only selects people that will be utterly useless to Era and absolutely loyal to them.

Alfonso wasn't something unforeseen.
Don't blame the poor fellow.
Look higher.

salesman 09-10-2011 01:11 AM
Another manager change will just set Era back even further.

fatcat123 09-10-2011 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1667637)
Another manager change will just set Era back even further.
That's because there's no one on Era who's fit for the job.

Venom_Fish 09-10-2011 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fatcat123 (Post 1667638)
That's because there's no one on Era who's fit for the job.
That the PWA's like. Politics is a pile of [insert word choice here].

RogueShatterblade 09-10-2011 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1667637)
Another manager change will just set Era back even further.
lately i'm not so sure.

Venom_Fish 09-10-2011 01:50 AM
Honestly Ocelot, in all seriousness.
I know you're more as eager as a beaver.
I'm interested, what would you DO as Manager of Era to change the present situation?
[Please don't make comparisons to past or current management - not much to compare to].

DDynasty 09-10-2011 01:58 AM
Maybe we should make bloodykiller the manager so when he is on 24/7 players can PM him, relentlessly *****ing like himself to get **** done. To be honest Alf, real life is more important than a ****ty ass game, if your making it IRL good job, and good luck with everything your doing, as for Tk, quit your *****ing. Your threads are always useless and displeasing.

salesman 09-10-2011 02:25 AM
Era's problem is that it needs big change, but managers always get burned out or replaced before they can bring it. Small updates like a gang shop or auctions will only delay the server's inevitable death. If the past has taught us anything, replacing Alfonso won't help because the next manager will try to start from scratch.

In my opinion, if Era had a dev-savvy manager (like Chris), it would be best to put Era into a temporary UC state to focus on developing needed changes without distraction. If the server started over fresh with something to offer besides trading, it would attract both new and old players alike. But Era doesn't have a Chris, so don't even try it.

Venom_Fish 09-10-2011 03:23 AM
In short, keep Alfonso until the server dies.
Uh, thanks but no thanks.
Era's problem isn't big change, in the sense that functions that require massive development.
Era needs focused change, change that is geared to solve Era's problems, both recognizable and beneath the surface.
The solutions are simple and would take a nothing more than a moderate developer or developer team all but a few weeks to complete it.
However, the impact and effect would be significant.

Era's problem with Era is, our administration doesn't know what Era's problem is.
To be honest, most of them don't even know much about Era in general.
How can they? They still focus on hiring people that are inexperienced but know how to do the most brain-dead jobs... o.O?

papajchris 09-10-2011 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1667653)
In short, keep Alfonso until the server dies.
Uh, thanks but no thanks.
Era's problem isn't big change, in the sense that functions that require massive development.
Era needs focused change, change that is geared to solve Era's problems, both recognizable and beneath the surface.
The solutions are simple and would take a nothing more than a moderate developer or developer team all but a few weeks to complete it.
However, the impact and effect would be significant.

Era's problem with Era is, our administration doesn't know what Era's problem is.
To be honest, most of them don't even know much about Era in general.
How can they? They still focus on hiring people that are inexperienced but know how to do the most brain-dead jobs... o.O?
Who do you suggest we hire to script? And don't avoid the question, or answer with another question. Tell me who I can hire? I have PMed all scripters on forums, and I have PMed every player on UN/Zodiac/etc, about coming to Era for scripting. Hell I even offered money. So unless you can cough someone up, quit *****ing :noob:

bloodykiller 09-10-2011 04:17 AM
hey alfonso, so why don't you just do/delegate something simple and quick like an auction or a couple of new gun/hat releases? or an event(s) for guns or another prize idk it's simply all boring now on era, especially considered that guns were made boring by staff

gaben 09-10-2011 04:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1667648)
Era's problem is that it needs big change, but managers always get burned out or replaced before they can bring it. Small updates like a gang shop or auctions will only delay the server's inevitable death. If the past has taught us anything, replacing Alfonso won't help because the next manager will try to start from scratch.

In my opinion, if Era had a dev-savvy manager (like Chris), it would be best to put Era into a temporary UC state to focus on developing needed changes without distraction. If the server started over fresh with something to offer besides trading, it would attract both new and old players alike. But Era doesn't have a Chris, so don't even try it.
Chris was manager, and we all know why he was fired...

Anyway, it doesn't matter. All good things come to an end. R.I.P Era!

EDIT: Isn't it unethical anyway to re-elect a manager that was already fired? Then again, Eranians don't really care about ethics LOL!

Venom_Fish 09-10-2011 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1667654)
Who do you suggest we hire to script? And don't avoid the question, or answer with another question. Tell me who I can hire? I have PMed all scripters on forums, and I have PMed every player on UN/Zodiac/etc, about coming to Era for scripting. Hell I even offered money. So unless you can cough someone up, quit *****ing :noob:
Oh, that question is easily answered.
Yet, why would I give you that answer? Hm?
To be honest, even if you had scripters.. not much would come of it.
You're focused on fixing whats not broken, a GMAP? A fishing system? lol.
That's the least of Era's problems.
Good luck though.

bloodykiller 09-10-2011 04:29 AM
fishing rly?? whats wrong with pking related money? if making money by pk was as fast as digging,mining etc there would be more activity since it'd be fun to make money and there are way more ppl pking

Supaman771 09-10-2011 04:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1667654)
Who do you suggest we hire to script? And don't avoid the question, or answer with another question. Tell me who I can hire? I have PMed all scripters on forums, and I have PMed every player on UN/Zodiac/etc, about coming to Era for scripting. Hell I even offered money. So unless you can cough someone up, quit *****ing :noob:
Last I checked William was fairly adept at bsing GUIs and throwing together scripts.
^^

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667663)
fishing rly?? whats wrong with pking related money? if making money by pk was as fast as digging,mining etc there would be more activity since it'd be fun to make money and there are way more ppl pking
PK money is more than enough to cover Ammo costs and most basic needs (some food, capps/lw pots) what more do you need? You'd make significant amounts if the Gang System was completed and raids became active again since you get like 200% more money for killing gang members (~$20 as apposed to 1-10)

RogueShatterblade 09-10-2011 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1667662)
You're focused on fixing whats not broken, a GMAP? A fishing system? lol.
That's the least of Era's problems.
agreed.

bloodykiller 09-10-2011 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1667664)
Last I checked William was fairly adept at bsing GUIs and throwing together scripts.
^^



PK money is more than enough to cover Ammo costs and most basic needs (some food, capps/lw pots) what more do you need? You'd make significant amounts if the Gang System was completed and raids became active again since you get like 200% more money for killing gang members (~$20 as apposed to 1-10)


ughhh man did u read what i wrote??? covering ammo/food is useless, the rate at which u make money by pking should be equal to the rate at which u make money by mining so that era has an enjoyable way of earning money, therefore ppl will no longer see making money as a boring task but as a normal component of being active and pking
u guys say i only suggest things for my own benefit, right? think again cuz this idea would immensely penalise me since way more ppl would be making money, lowering the effective value of cash since there is more of it or easier to obtain
if u don't understand simple business/motivation concepts do not bother to reply

dude2020 09-10-2011 05:58 PM
Seriously, I can't read what you write.

RogueShatterblade 09-10-2011 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667709)
if u don't understand simple business/motivation concepts do not bother to reply
if you can't write without simple understanding of grammatical and spelling concepts, don't bother posting.

Supaman771 09-10-2011 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1667709)
ughhh man did u read what i wrote??? covering ammo/food is useless, the rate at which u make money by pking should be equal to the rate at which u make money by mining so that era has an enjoyable way of earning money, therefore ppl will no longer see making money as a boring task but as a normal component of being active and pking
u guys say i only suggest things for my own benefit, right? think again cuz this idea would immensely penalise me since way more ppl would be making money, lowering the effective value of cash since there is more of it or easier to obtain
if u don't understand simple business/motivation concepts do not bother to reply
Actually it is.
If you kill a player every 2-5 seconds (average time to get one of those rocks down.. with level 0-40 ish) and then they are randomized (refined) as 6-10$ kills, it would theoretically be the same.

Even more-so if you accomplished that feat whilst killing gang members.

The difference here being, players aren't in unlimited supply in a pk level (as rocks seemingly are) and players don't stand still until you kill them every single time.

Gambet1337 09-10-2011 10:33 PM
look at era staff list
go on UN and look at thre staff list

and have a laugh with me :'D
cant fix a server without a good staff team
too bad era's is mostly inactive dev-ish? players and lol "housing admins" and "player services players"


EDIT: WHY DID WE FIRE SNK??????????????????????????????????????

WillaWonka 09-11-2011 12:53 AM
I get $1 Kills sometimes :(

bloodykiller 09-11-2011 01:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade (Post 1667717)
if you can't write without simple understanding of grammatical and spelling concepts, don't bother posting.
i can assure u that my spelling is great, but i choose to write in an informal manner on era forums lol

Venom_Fish 09-11-2011 03:52 AM
The rate at which money is gained from PKing is fine as of now.
It is enough for a player to not have to mine or anything to afford ammo and other nic-nacs. There's no more needed than that.
Besides, alot of other luxuries are gained from being an adept pker.
Therefore, there's no need to make this one astronomical... there's no benefits foreseen.

bloodykiller 09-11-2011 06:04 AM
so if u started playing era today ud enjoy earning ur money (not for ammo, big money for guns) by mining rather than pking? idk era is supposed to be based on pk right?


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