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Rave_J 08-18-2011 07:43 AM

Android market
 
Does anybody know when there going to release graal era to the andriod market ?
..... there way past there dead line and been waiting getting bored with my other apps already

TSAdmin 08-18-2011 09:24 AM

What deadline?

Geno 08-18-2011 09:27 AM

they will let you know when it is released. asking will not make them hurry or give you a "deadline"............. bro.

fowlplay4 08-18-2011 03:09 PM

Regardless they still need to release Classic on Android first and Stefan is still on vacation.

Emera 08-18-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1664153)
Stefan is still on vacation.

Nice for some. And anyway, isn't he pretty much tied up wit getting the V6 released? Last time we talked he mentioned he had a lot on his plate with releasing V6 and fixing the bug issues that we are posting. One step at a time man.

Twinny 08-18-2011 04:07 PM

I want the Android builds too (have a HTC Desire and a Galaxy 10.1) but I've realised that over-poking him has negative effects :)

Admins 08-18-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1664153)
Regardless they still need to release Classic on Android first and Stefan is still on vacation.

I came back on Monday :D

Emera 08-18-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1664173)
I came back on Monday :D

We knew that :D Didn't we? Well think of the unanswered PM's and Emails. *nudge*
Hope all is well with whatever it is you are working on. Oh wait he is already on the case...
Current Activity: Private Messaging
Ok back on topic. Why do people actually want to see it on android phones? I know they can take a lot of lag and the performance if very good, but they can't match up to iPhone performance which still has lag issues on the iPhone apps. Surely it won't be able to take that much lag?

Fulg0reSama 08-18-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664174)
Ok back on topic. Why do people actually want to see it on android phones? I know they can take a lot of lag and the performance if very good, but they can't match up to iPhone performance which still has lag issues on the iPhone apps. Surely it won't be able to take that much lag?

Or simply because not everyone has an iPhone?

Emera 08-18-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1664180)
Or simply because not everyone has an iPhone?

Not quite what I am getting at.

Fulg0reSama 08-18-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664184)
Not quite what I am getting at.

Then do clarify, because what I read seems pretty straightforward.

Just so I make myself clear to you as well, I highlighted the question where my reply was intended for.

Emera 08-18-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1664187)
Then do clarify, because what I read seems pretty straightforward.

I was getting at that I don't think that android phones could match up to the performance that iPhone's have, and yet iPhone's still have performance issues.

Bubble13 08-18-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664188)
I was getting at that I don't think that android phones could match up to the performance that iPhone's have, and yet iPhone's still have performance issues.

If it works well enough, people will be satisfied with the performance.

iBeatz 08-18-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664188)
I was getting at that I don't think that android phones could match up to the performance that iPhone's have, and yet iPhone's still have performance issues.

You know this for a fact?

Emera 08-18-2011 09:59 PM

I wasn't stating a point, I was giving my opinion. "I don't think"

trimaster 08-18-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664188)
I was getting at that I don't think that android phones could match up to the performance that iPhone's have, and yet iPhone's still have performance issues.

There are plenty of Droids that can out preform the iPhone.

Twinny 08-18-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664199)
I wasn't stating a point, I was giving my opinion. "I don't think"

Graal is playable on the 1st gen iPod/iPhone (but preferably 3rd generation or up). I think most android based phones/tablets have this base hardware requirement down pat.

Most lag is experienced when in places with a lot of players. My iPod 4g can handle peak hour in the busiest areas with no issues but an iPad 1 can come under considerable strain seemingly because it has a higher ratio of content to be rendered to processing power. Should be interesting to test it on my Galaxy 10.1 :)

Bubble13 08-18-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1664203)
Graal is playable on the 1st gen iPod/iPhone (but preferably 3rd generation or up). I think most android based phones/tablets have this base hardware requirement down pat.

Most lag is experienced when in places with a lot of players. My iPod 4g can handle peak hour in the busiest areas with no issues but an iPad 1 can come under considerable strain seemingly because it has a higher ratio of content to be rendered to processing power. Should be interesting to test it on my Galaxy 10.1 :)

I lag a bit in crowded areas on my iPod 4. How do you manage to get no lag? Do you have nicknames, sound, music, etc. enabled?

Twinny 08-18-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1664204)
I lag a bit in crowded areas on my iPod 4. How do you manage to get no lag? Do you have nicknames, sound, music, etc. enabled?

Not sure. I may have turned nicknames off.

For the worst of the worst, it's even possible to disable all animations which is a major performance boost (makes 1st gen devices work a lot better)

Bubble13 08-18-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1664206)
Not sure. I may have turned nicknames off.

For the worst of the worst, it's even possible to disable all animations which is a major performance boost (makes 1st gen devices work a lot better)

I have a major issue with that. I turned animations off on my second gen and turning them back on doesn't work.

Sky 08-18-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by trimaster (Post 1664201)
There are plenty of Droids that can out preform the iPhone.

I dunno about that. I've had the moto atrix, samsung nexus s, htc my touch 4g, htc inspire and they were all junk compared to my iPhone 4. :(

Twinny 08-18-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1664207)
I have a major issue with that. I turned animations off on my second gen and turning them back on doesn't work.

You may have to re-enable animations than restart the client so animations to start working again.

Bubble13 08-18-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1664211)
You may have to re-enable animations than restart the client so animations to start working again.

Ah. If that's what will make it work there should be some kind of alert.

trimaster 08-19-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13 (Post 1664207)
I have a major issue with that. I turned animations off on my second gen and turning them back on doesn't work.

You just need to find the right one lol. For example, the Thunderbolt is more powerful tan the iPhone 4 :p

Bubble13 08-19-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by trimaster (Post 1664224)
You just need to find the right one lol. For example, the Thunderbolt is more powerful tan the iPhone 4 :p

I have an iPod.

Rave_J 08-19-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno (Post 1664131)
they will let you know when it is released. asking will not make them hurry or give you a "deadline"............. bro.

....
these are the people thats killing this game.
No Matter what i post the graal community just wants to harrass
and tired of it
for ur infomation unximad gave out a dead line

3) We are releasing an Android version
The Android release will come either in April or May

so if they couldn't release when they note thats there problem
if they thought it would take longer they shouldnt put a release date on it

Fogell 08-25-2011 04:07 AM

Why don't you port it yourself like those smart kids that attracted a crowd using cards on Classic iPhone. :-D

Cubical 08-25-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664174)
We knew that :D Didn't we? Well think of the unanswered PM's and Emails. *nudge*
Hope all is well with whatever it is you are working on. Oh wait he is already on the case...
Current Activity: Private Messaging
Ok back on topic. Why do people actually want to see it on android phones? I know they can take a lot of lag and the performance if very good, but they can't match up to iPhone performance which still has lag issues on the iPhone apps. Surely it won't be able to take that much lag?

Older android phones maybe but there are some phones that are rivaling PCs I used to be able to play Graal on in high school. They already have more RAM, processing power and render graphics better than the computer I was playing Graal on 5 years ago.

salesman 08-25-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1664174)
Why do people actually want to see it on android phones? I know they can take a lot of lag and the performance if very good, but they can't match up to iPhone performance which still has lag issues on the iPhone apps. Surely it won't be able to take that much lag?

This is why:

http://static8.businessinsider.com/i...march-2011.png

The problem with Android is that there's a huge range of hardware and software capabilities. Many newer phones running the Android OS can match or out-perform the iPhone, but you also have many more that can't even compete.

The good thing about the Android market though is that developers can specify hardware/software requirements, so the game wont show up for users who cannot run it.

cbk1994 08-25-2011 10:01 PM

Neat to see that Apple is starting to lose more and more market share. Maybe they'll start competing instead of just suing everybody for "copying" them.

fowlplay4 08-25-2011 10:21 PM

Most iPhone players are actually iPod players (+80%) though. What's the Android equivalent of that?

oo_jazz_oo 08-25-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1665452)
Most iPhone players are actually iPod players (+80%) though. What's the Android equivalent of that?

They have tons of tablets that run android that you can buy for about the same price as an iPod touch (or cheaper).

No clue how well they run...

WanDaMan 08-25-2011 10:46 PM

Unfortunately Apple has become dominant in many areas. A few of their products- the iPod, music downloads & movies via the iTunes Store, or smart phones such as the iPhone and more recently the iPad/iTouch. Kudos :o

I'm interested in seeing whether or not other manufacturers start installing Apple software on their products.

cyan3 08-25-2011 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1665465)
I'm interested in seeing whether or not other manufacturers start installing Apple software on their products.

Very unlikely considering iOS is closed source.

oo_jazz_oo 08-25-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1665465)
I'm interested in seeing whether or not other manufacturers start installing Apple software on their products.

I highly doubt this...unless Steve Jobs was just the overwhelming force behind every Apple product being closed source. Although, he is still chairman, so...yeah. Not likely to happen any time soon...

If Steve Wozniak was CEO of Apple, that would be a different story...

cbk1994 08-25-2011 11:20 PM

Closed source has nothing to do with it, Apple simply chooses not to allow other manufacturers to use iOS (and OS X) with their hardware.

Windows is a closed-source OS, and plenty of OEMs sell Windows machines.

Twinny 08-25-2011 11:25 PM

John Carmack noted some interesting trends at last QuakeCon. There were a lot more Android users in the audience but the Apple peoples made more app purchases over $5 (i think 5). Android users aren't so willing to fork out money it would seem (I think it's because the average Android user is more tech savvy and less willing to waste money :D)

Cubical 08-26-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1665452)
Most iPhone players are actually iPod players (+80%) though. What's the Android equivalent of that?

the zen or something, a friend has one.. i still prefer ipods even though i'm an android fan boy.
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Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo (Post 1665469)
I highly doubt this...unless Steve Jobs was just the overwhelming force behind every Apple product being closed source. Although, he is still chairman, so...yeah. Not likely to happen any time soon...

If Steve Wozniak was CEO of Apple, that would be a different story...

Steve Jobs is probably the smartest person in the world when it comes to anything dealing with technology and business, if Steve Wozniak were to be current CEO of Apple it wouldn't be the powerhouse it is today. Steve Jobs resigned either today or yesterday because of health issues.

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1665472)
John Carmack noted some interesting trends at last QuakeCon. There were a lot more Android users in the audience but the Apple peoples made more app purchases over $5 (i think 5). Android users aren't so willing to fork out money it would seem (I think it's because the average Android user is more tech savvy and less willing to waste money :D)

The market still isn't mature, where as apples has had many many years.

oo_jazz_oo 08-26-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1665486)
Steve Jobs is probably the smartest person in the world when it comes to anything dealing with technology and business

I will agree he is a brilliant business man, but as far as technology...he cant really take credit. He just took other ideas, and made them appeal to a broader audience. Hes a genius at marketing and getting people to buy his products, i'll give him that.

Cubical 08-26-2011 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo (Post 1665497)
I will agree he is a brilliant business man, but as far as technology...he cant really take credit. He just took other ideas, and made them appeal to a broader audience. Hes a genius at marketing and getting people to buy his products, i'll give him that.

you're just reiterating what i just said, it takes someone with great insight into technology to successfully do that.


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