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Gambet1337 08-13-2011 02:51 AM

the new gang system
 
is fail....(as predicted by me)

...era is officially boring again

Venom_Fish 08-13-2011 02:55 AM

As much as I don't want to say it,
I agree.
Without the updates, its an absolute failure.
Perhaps even in a worst form than the initial.

You can't place expectations on leaders as you would in the other system...

Well, let me rephrase.
You can't place expectations on leaders as you would in other system WITHOUT actually getting up and doing some kind of work.

But if you did that, you might as well add updates... *Kanye voice* Huh?

Donark 08-13-2011 04:44 AM

Alf told me that the point shop isn't a priority and if I want it finished I should do it myself -_- nice manager we got here

Venom_Fish 08-13-2011 04:49 AM

Maybe you should define priority for him first, its a pretty big word.

salesman 08-13-2011 07:44 PM

A stupid shop isn't going to do anything for the gang system. Everyone will get the prizes in a week and then be bored again.

Gambet1337 08-13-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1663404)
A stupid shop isn't going to do anything for the gang system. Everyone will get the prizes in a week and then be bored again.

I realize that; i meant when i said "fail" was that it has not solved anything
In reality the new gang system is just like the old gang system :s

Venom_Fish 08-14-2011 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1663404)
A stupid shop isn't going to do anything for the gang system. Everyone will get the prizes in a week and then be bored again.

That all depends on how you design and balance it all.

ilovegirlzz 08-14-2011 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1663452)
balance it all.

you dont deserve to use the word balance

RogueShatterblade 08-14-2011 06:30 AM

Had a chat with Alf and Zeus tonight.
These guys aren't retarded and have a plan.
So chill out queers is what i'm getting at

Scoper 08-14-2011 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663461)
you dont deserve to use the word balance

this is more at wil and not ikki, but

this man has posted. you'll probably disagree with it.
but look how nice the discussion is, this post aside, and how close it is to actually being on-topic

don't rage at this man.

also..old gang system was better, hands down. I don't see any kind of shop changing that.

Venom_Fish 08-14-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade (Post 1663472)
Had a chat with Alf and Zeus tonight.
These guys aren't retarded and have a plan.
So chill out queers is what i'm getting at

Icarus had a plan,
Deophite had a plan,
Squirt had a plan,
Chris had a plan,

and the latter...

Pardon my french but,
What the HELL is that supposed to mean to us?

Then again, its difficult to create things that would positively impact gameplay, when you've never truly played the game.

So kuddos to the plan for re-adding Southridge and a Ferry Boat.

@Scoper
Were you even able to get in a gang? o.O? lol.
You don't even PK, nor do much involved with gangs.
That's, ever so surprisingly ::rollseyes::, a pretty ignorant and uneducated remark.

I'd say they both are terrible.
Rationally, a shop or reward system would make a great deal of difference to the current gang system because the entire system is based on POINTS. o.O?
Change such a major factor, and the effects would be just as major.

Are you,
A. Blind
B. Deaf
C. Crazy

Take your pick.

RogueShatterblade 08-14-2011 08:19 AM

The beauty of being on the outside looking in, Wil, is that nobody gives a **** about what you think. Maybe you should ask them yourself without being a pompous jackass and they'd tell you. I don't agree with the direction they're going, but they're at least headed somewhere. It's been like a month. Don't be stupid.

Venom_Fish 08-14-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade (Post 1663480)
The beauty of being on the outside looking in, Wil, is that nobody gives a **** about what you think. Maybe you should ask them yourself without being a pompous jackass and they'd tell you. I don't agree with the direction they're going, but they're at least headed somewhere. It's been like a month. Don't be stupid.

The beauty of being on the outside looking in, Ocelot... is that nobody gives a **** about what you think. Maybe you should ask me yourself without being a pompous jackass and I'd tell you that I already know.

I absolutely don't agree with the direction they're going in,
FURTHERMORE,
They're not going ANYWHERE with it.
Its been a month, ask for progress. Please.

RogueShatterblade 08-14-2011 08:55 AM

are you going to go through your entire life acting like this, because I seriously want to see where it ends up

will you register on ancestry.com for me as wil soul

i will google the **** out of you in 10 years

Venom_Fish 08-14-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade (Post 1663483)
are you going to go through your entire life acting like this, because I seriously want to see where it ends up

will you register on ancestry.com for me as wil soul

i will google the **** out of you in 10 years

Are you going through your entire life acting like this,
because I SERIOUSLY want to see where it ends up (looks good so far).
Will you register on ancestry.com Ocelot?
I will google the **** out of you in 10 minutes.

Aren't you like 35 already?

RogueShatterblade 08-14-2011 05:19 PM

i know you are but what am i

WillaWonka 08-14-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueShatterblade (Post 1663503)
i know you are but what am i

omg

Scoper 08-14-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1663477)
A lot of boring stuff and jackassery.


I was in BH for quite a long time. Furthermore, I dealt with them 3 times a week for gang events. I also was friends with smoke, jeff, skyler, etc, and talked to them often enough.

Just because I didn't participate in every raid doesn't mean I'm completely unaware of how things were, and are.

Nobody cares about raiding now, as you yourself have argued. When there were only 3 gangs, raiding was a big thing (did i mention events didn't deter that? if nothing else, they encouraged it), people cared about being in gangs. They actually meant something
A shop might change that, but I doubt it.

Gang activity is down, gang members *****ing is up. Leads me to think the current system is inherently broken.
The old system wasn't perfect, no. I had a lot of problems with it, personally. But it was better than this one.

bloodykiller 08-14-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoper (Post 1663508)
I was in BH for quite a long time. Furthermore, I dealt with them 3 times a week for gang events. I also was friends with smoke, jeff, skyler, etc, and talked to them often enough.

Just because I didn't participate in every raid doesn't mean I'm completely unaware of how things were, and are.

Nobody cares about raiding now, as you yourself have argued. When there were only 3 gangs, raiding was a big thing (did i mention events didn't deter that? if nothing else, they encouraged it), people cared about being in gangs. They actually meant something
A shop might change that, but I doubt it.

Gang activity is down, gang members *****ing is up. Leads me to think the current system is inherently broken.
The old system wasn't perfect, no. I had a lot of problems with it, personally. But it was better than this one.

u finally said something smart, gj illgive u a cookie when u log onto era
the funny thing is that u guys were all so happy about the new gang system lmao..wemust remember to thank wil for making the guns slow/boring and fking up the gang system which only needed a couple of changes

salesman 08-14-2011 08:31 PM

There's a reason the gang system wasn't released before Alf. In its current state, it's nothing more than a party system with a pretty gui. People can append -my awesome guild- to their names, tally their kills, and have the same game-play elements that the gang system currently offers.

Gangs were supposed to have an expiration date. If gangs didn't meet certain expectations, the gang would eventually be deleted. Leaders were also supposed to have goals to work toward to make having a gang worthwhile -- ways to expand your gang, perks for controlling bases, perks for raiding, and so on. Maybe you could try to implement some of that.

ilovegirlzz 08-14-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1663521)
There's a reason the gang system wasn't released before Alf. In its current state, it's nothing more than a party system with a pretty gui. People can append -my awesome guild- to their names, tally their kills, and have the same game-play elements that the gang system currently offers.

Gangs were supposed to have an expiration date. If gangs didn't meet certain expectations, the gang would eventually be deleted. Leaders were also supposed to have goals to work toward to make having a gang worthwhile -- ways to expand your gang, perks for controlling bases, perks for raiding, and so on. Maybe you could try to implement some of that.

then wtf happened its been a month that shouldve been done already. unless alf didnt give the staff an assignment when he was gone for 2 weeks

LordSquirt 08-14-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1663521)
There's a reason the gang system wasn't released before Alf. In its current state, it's nothing more than a party system with a pretty gui. People can append -my awesome guild- to their names, tally their kills, and have the same game-play elements that the gang system currently offers.

Gangs were supposed to have an expiration date. If gangs didn't meet certain expectations, the gang would eventually be deleted. Leaders were also supposed to have goals to work toward to make having a gang worthwhile -- ways to expand your gang, perks for controlling bases, perks for raiding, and so on. Maybe you could try to implement some of that.

I don't think Era has any scripters to make all of that pro stuff

WillaWonka 08-14-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1663546)
I don't think Era has any scripters to make all of that pro stuff

era has nothin dood

Shadow5596321 08-14-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1663547)
era has nothin dood

LOL. Zone says wassup

iBreez 08-14-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663461)
you dont deserve to use the word balance

rep+

Shadow5596321 08-14-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663461)
you dont deserve to use the word balance

and you do right?

emoman 08-14-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1663404)
A stupid shop isn't going to do anything for the gang system. Everyone will get the prizes in a week and then be bored again.

well that's usually how dev tries to fix their mistakes, more shops!

ilovegirlzz 08-15-2011 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1663556)
and you do right?

go back to zone...oh yea no one is there

Donark 08-15-2011 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663629)
go back to zone...oh yea no one is there

you go back to zone no one likes you ***
inb4 infraction

RogueShatterblade 08-15-2011 06:52 PM

oh era i missed you

Rave_J 08-15-2011 07:35 PM

... i said this gang system was going to die to Akeon and Alf before it was even release
but hey guess u guys like to find out the hard way

RogueShatterblade 08-15-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1663671)
... i said this gang system was going to die to Akeon and Alf before it was even release
but hey guess u guys like to find out the hard way

if only we listened to you, era would be all lollypops and dandelions huh

ilovegirlzz 08-15-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1663656)
you go back to zone no one likes you ***
inb4 infraction

this kid is the biggest rager on era hands down..

Shadow5596321 08-15-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663629)
go back to zone...oh yea no one is there

Atleast they don't hire kiddies like you. unless you buy it.

ilovegirlzz 08-15-2011 10:53 PM

dude2020 u a troll.


back to the subject.
does anyone have any ideas on how to fix the gang problem?
i liked the one with the 5 gangs wit like a 30 person cap.
since there are like 5 bases each gang could have their own base
LC BB BH MF and the place above the hospital.

Shadow5596321 08-15-2011 11:24 PM

I'm not trolling son LOL.

Era hired you of all people.

ilovegirlzz 08-16-2011 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1663697)
I'm not trolling son LOL.

Era hired you of all people.

im an et....u act like i dev stuff..calm down dude

Shadow5596321 08-16-2011 12:16 AM

Events team members are probably one of the most (if not the most) staff positions deemed by players.


but yeah, zone's waiting for you now, tench is manager.

ilovegirlzz 08-16-2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow5596321 (Post 1663732)
Events team members are probably one of the most (if not the most) staff positions deemed by players.


but yeah, zone's waiting for you now, tench is manager.

lol tench aint neva manager..

Shadow5596321 08-16-2011 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1663737)
lol tench aint neva manager..

lol u must b high as hell not 2 see the forums in which tench is annouced as manager


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