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Kiwi27 08-13-2011 01:32 AM

Another Graal 3D Thread
 
Hey all,

Graal 3D is a topic brought up a lot right now, and one with jumps out to me: Perspective.

3D is, well, 3D. It has different angles (at least the type of 3D Graal Images people have been making are). It seems to me it would have to be sort of Minecraft style, or maybe the style of one of the Sims games where you actually walk around for it to work.

Wouldn't it be sort of hard to script a system such as that?

(I really don't know how to explain this)

For that reason, wouldn't it be easier to make a different game? Not a server. A completely different online multiplayer game still owned by GraalOnline, just not on it's usual Client.

With usage of a program like Blender or Unity, a awesome 3D game could be made. And then when 3D computers come around... It would be awesome.

So, erm, I hope you understood what I meant above XD.

Just a thought...

xXziroXx 08-13-2011 01:48 AM

Graal 3D was an old project that's no longer around. All other current threads about it is either troll threads or a remnants from the past.

Crono 08-13-2011 01:48 AM

graal 3d should have been graal in its current perspective but in 3d

the gameplay could have been made as close to the 2d as possible to make it a viable "step up" from the normal graal and minor features like diving in the water and jumping could have added a lot of depth.

but yeah, like ziro said, thing of the past.

Crow 08-13-2011 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1663308)
thing of the past.

Let's create a Link to the Past, then!

Kiwi27 08-13-2011 01:58 AM

Meh. Doesn't matter - this thread has been posted. So, let us hop into our time machine, and go back in time.

Now whatdya think? xd

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t7Y3ou29Mc...i_large_01.jpg

ffcmike 08-13-2011 02:11 AM

As much as I'd like to have seen a 3D Graal the Adventure, I get the feeling this was always doomed simply because Graal is a player made game, and that development credentials for this may possibly be far too elite for a team of volunteers to be viable.

Crono 08-13-2011 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1663316)
As much as I'd like to have seen a 3D Graal the Adventure, I get the feeling this was always doomed simply because Graal is a player made game, and that development credentials for this may possibly be far too elite for a team of volunteers to be viable.

a 3D level editor would have been golden, something that would have worked like our current one but 3D...the possibilities x.x. it wouldn't have to be complicated either. pre-defined objects, treate things like tiles, etc.

DustyPorViva 08-13-2011 03:32 AM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...&postcount=203

If you haven't played Spiral Knights, it's designed like... exactly like Graal should have been designed.

Funny thing is, the graphics are in 3D, but the game is designed in a tile-based manner(and movement is even coded as such). I imagine they probably have a swift level editor to handle that too... would love to play with it!

xXziroXx 08-13-2011 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi27 (Post 1663314)
Meh. Doesn't matter - this thread has been posted. So, let us hop into our time machine, and go back in time.

Now whatdya think? xd

No one wants to go back to the crap known as Graal 3D. There was nothing positive about it at all. I'm not sure why some people have started glorifying it as of late.

haro41 08-13-2011 04:36 AM

they are referring to the idea of a 3d classic graal. first person view wouldn't work. But the same perspective as classic graal, with 3 dimensional graphics.

Spiral Knights is a good example of what graal 3d could be. Also Fat Princess had a good design and gameplay. They even had interchangeable hats! That's graal all the way

Galdor 08-13-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1663337)
No one wants to go back to the crap known as Graal 3D. There was nothing positive about it at all. I'm not sure why some people have started glorifying it as of late.

Uhh just because the server itself was as bad as maloria, doesn't make 3d bad.

Pimmeh 08-13-2011 11:39 AM

The thing about 3D was that Stefan didn't know what he wanted with it. Or at least... That was the impression I always got. The community members he hired started firing ideas around, but I don't think we ever thought of a clear direction.

joel34 08-13-2011 12:21 PM

I actually remember throwing snow at snowmans.

Fulg0reSama 08-13-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1663367)
Uhh just because the server itself was as bad as maloria, doesn't make 3d bad.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9665/burnsauce.gif

Rave_J 08-13-2011 02:14 PM

well Stefan said this before
he said Graal 3d was never offical it was just a learning exp that he wanted to do
with a 2d and 3d on the same platform

so pretty much its not coming back

i think the best thing he should do is add a function
and make 3d objects work on graal like buildings show angles. but main concern is he would have to script a camera view so u can roatate the cam.
when the camera roatation idea that should be enable due it will make graal servers more interesting if they can change cam view
to another view

Elk 08-13-2011 04:50 PM

3D objects already work in Graal...

ThomV 08-13-2011 05:11 PM

My brother made a video about it four years ago:


Not sure if it's still supported.

Crow 08-13-2011 05:32 PM

I don't think it still is.

Galdor 08-14-2011 12:10 AM

a lolz from the archive
 
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Here is a preview of the animals we are making for Graal3d, click on the preview to see the animation.

Some of this animals will be tameable and you will be able to ride them.
excited? :p

Chompy 08-15-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1663337)
No one wants to go back to the crap known as Graal 3D. There was nothing positive about it at all. I'm not sure why some people have started glorifying it as of late.

Nothing positive about it at all? Did you ever try developing with the engine at all?

xXziroXx 08-15-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1663657)
Nothing positive about it at all? Did you ever try developing with the engine at all?

I didn't, no, but I don't see why anyone would want to play a 3D server on Graal when there's so much better engines out there. Graal has it's charm because it's 2D.

Galdor 08-15-2011 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1663669)
I didn't, no, but I don't see why anyone would want to play a 3D server on Graal when there's so much better engines out there. Graal has it's charm because it's 2D.

Personally I wouldn't mind having some more creative freedom, why would anyone want to play a 3d server on graal? same reason as someone would play a 2d server on graal.
And I don't think you necessarily need the best 3d engine to make a good game, I enjoy 3d games on the DS.

Fulg0reSama 08-15-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1663435)
excited? :p

I jizz'd.

Galdor 08-15-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1663677)
I jizz'd.

:p

btw omg someone in this thread will bite the dust
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6208/omgfku.jpg

salesman 08-15-2011 10:35 PM

snitches get stitches

Galdor 08-15-2011 10:39 PM

watch and learn salesman this is how drama is created :)

Crono 08-15-2011 10:39 PM

nah i clicked back, i think

xAndrewx 08-15-2011 11:33 PM

ha

Devil_Lord2 08-16-2011 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1663333)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...&postcount=203

If you haven't played Spiral Knights, it's designed like... exactly like Graal should have been designed.

Funny thing is, the graphics are in 3D, but the game is designed in a tile-based manner(and movement is even coded as such). I imagine they probably have a swift level editor to handle that too... would love to play with it!

I guess I wouldn't know much, but I love Spiral Knights, however I don't see the resemblance between it and Graal :x

DustyPorViva 08-16-2011 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1663774)
I guess I wouldn't know much, but I love Spiral Knights, however I don't see the resemblance between it and Graal :x

Graphics I feel represent Graal insanely well. Proportions, level designs and such are all reminiscent of Zelda, and thus, Graal. Combat in its most primitive form is just swordplay... again, like Graal. The only difference, which in my opinion is minor, is the dungeon format. In fact, I think adding Spiral Knights format to Graal would benefit it. It's a lot like Zelda Four Swords but without much puzzle play. It would be the perfect addition to Graal, and would compliment its online atmosphere, which Zelda-like dungeons don't really fit very well into.


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