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littlekinky 07-26-2011 10:11 PM

Pc Graal.
 
Basically PC Graal is Dead.

Crono 07-26-2011 10:11 PM

Basically it's not.

littlekinky 07-26-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1660466)
Basically it's not.

Compared to what it used to be. Its dead.

ffcmike 07-26-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1660466)
Basically it's not.

Basically this.

littlekinky 07-26-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1660468)
Basically this.

Ok, Basically All servers dead apart from, Era and Zodiac?

ffcmike 07-26-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by littlekinky (Post 1660469)
Ok, Basically All servers dead apart from, Era and Zodiac?

Basically depends on your definition of "dead", in-which case if it is defined by playercount alone while you could argue UN is slowly dieing, it is some way off being dead.

I wouldn't say you can define dead entirely through playercount though, dead would imply that there's absolutely no chance of coming back to life, and as has been seen many times playercount does fluctuate and server playercounts do undergo mini revivals.

Playercount is also highly influenced through external factors such as subscription prices, advertisement and accessibility, all ofwhich are things that may be improved within the not too distant future.
It would be too early to disregard PC Graal as being dead right now.

I will say this though, sometimes Stefan refers to the fact that people often said that Graal would be dead by now 10 years ago, and that in it still being here 10 years later this is proving them wrong.
I think it should be said that this has little to do with the quality of Graal as a game and how well it has been ran, but more to do with the countless players and developers that have stood by it.

littlekinky 07-26-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1660473)
Basically depends on your definition of "dead", in-which case if it is defined by playercount alone while you could argue UN is slowly dieing, it is some way off being dead.

I wouldn't say you can define dead entirely through playercount though, dead would imply that there's absolutely no chance of coming back to life, and as has been seen many times playercount does fluctuate and server playercounts do undergo mini revivals.

Playercount is also highly influenced through external factors such as subscription prices, advertisement and accessibility, all ofwhich are things that may be improved within the not too distant future.
It would be too early to disregard PC Graal as being dead right now.

I will say this though, sometimes Stefan refers to the fact that people often said that Graal would be dead by now 10 years ago, and that in it still being here 10 years later this is proving them wrong.
I think it should be said that this has little to do with the quality of Graal as a game and how well it has been ran, but more to do with the countless players and developers that have stood by it.

I agree with you totally, and maybe I should of said this differently. But I do feel there is wasted amazingly created servers out there, and when I say "dead" I purely mean player count.

Emera 07-26-2011 10:35 PM

Basically, I disagree.

ThomV 07-26-2011 10:36 PM

Technically it's not dead.

Moreso suffocated to near-death, the spirit it once had is long-dead. It lives on as a lifeless zombie. But with a very very small flame inside of it which could possibly ignite life again once proper action is taken. (Which according to popular belief will never happen.)

It may seem very extreme, but that's my view on it.

Unkownsoldier 07-26-2011 10:43 PM

I don't think people understand. Graal is not dead, there is actually about the same amount of players there were before. Yet, with the current subscription system there are a lot less trials that play routinely. So it seems like the player count has gone down, but the real players, the ones that have life-time classic or buy gold are still around. They are the core, and the trials were just the players that made the game look more popular than it was. Yes, players have left. But new players have come in an taken their spots. Yes there are still a lot of trials that play, but not as many as their once was. - Due to observer mode I guess. So stop saying the game is dead, the game has just gotten rid of a lot of the non-paying players.

And you notice a lot of servers have disappeared, well that's because they failed to produce content. The players from those servers just migrated to other servers or have halted playing until they are fixed. So of course the servers have fluctuation of numbers all of the time, but the core number of players are still the same.

ThomV 07-26-2011 10:47 PM

I think players and developers are more prone to consider Graal dead due to their personal loss of interest and hopes rather than a statistical decline.

xXziroXx 07-26-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660478)
Due to observer mode I guess.

Observer mode has not existed for quite some time now.

mattl90 07-26-2011 11:03 PM

Graal has one of the most dedicated communities I have been a part of. The fact that I can log in today and see people online that I met when I first started playing is a good demonstration of this fact. PC Graal just isn't getting very many new players.

However, I could see this turning around eventually if pricing becomes more reasonable. The interest in an online snes Zelda like game is huge. Graal just isn't capitalizing on this interest as well as it could be.

fowlplay4 07-26-2011 11:31 PM

littlekinky, you're dead.

Starfire2001 07-26-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1660481)
Observer mode has not existed for quite some time now.

Come on UN sometime, it's alive and kicking, shamelessly doing its thing.

Bubble13 07-27-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Starfire2001 (Post 1660495)
Come on UN sometime, it's alive and kicking, shamelessly doing its thing.

It's still there?! What happened to them removing it?

Unkownsoldier 07-27-2011 12:44 AM

Observer mode has never left? Are you kidding me lol. Except on a few choice servers, every
other server has observer mode.

xXziroXx 07-27-2011 12:51 AM

My bad then, I was pretty sure I read about it being replaced with something else. Must be confusing it with limited screen size garbage.

littlekinky 07-27-2011 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1660492)
littlekinky, you're dead.

**** you.

fowlplay4 07-27-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by littlekinky (Post 1660500)
**** you.

That's no way to respond to a gentle soul such as myself, you need to learn some manners my wayward son.

littlekinky 07-27-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1660501)
That's no way to respond to a gentle soul such as myself, you need to learn some manners my wayward son.

Hmm.

oo_jazz_oo 07-27-2011 01:14 AM

Guiz, the game is dead. Time to pack it up...it was a good run, and I would like to personally thank all of you for helping. Everything has to come to an end eventually, we should be proud of what we accomplished in such a short time.

You'll be receiving your severance checks in the mail, and I would like to wish you all good luck on future endeavors.

Unkownsoldier 07-27-2011 01:29 AM

Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

littlekinky 07-27-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660505)
Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

oooooooooooo

salesman 07-27-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660505)
Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/16996-2...f+Trolling.jpg

ThomV 07-27-2011 02:06 AM

This thread is dieing... I want my money back.

Unkownsoldier 07-27-2011 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomV (Post 1660508)
This thread is dieing... I want my money back.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5549/burnmoney.jpg

Snake980 07-27-2011 04:30 AM

I would say it's underground not dead ^^

MattKan 07-27-2011 04:59 AM

I don't actually no what to say so I'm not going to say anything. Ignore this post.

Shadow5596321 07-27-2011 05:33 AM

Zone's mangement at work.

Crono 07-27-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660505)
Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

no

ffcmike 07-27-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660505)
Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

Do you live in an all-you-can-eat restaurant?

xXziroXx 07-27-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1660505)
Lmao. they can never really "end" the game. Since most of us bought life time classic, they would actually have to have the game up forever.. otherwise they false advertised xD. So graal will forever be around .

Surely you're not stupid enough to honestly think that "lifetime" in this context means anything but the lifetime of the game?

ThomV 07-27-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomV (Post 1660508)
This thread is dieing... I want my money back.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9905/justno.png

Haha, best neg rep ever.

gravator 07-27-2011 11:29 PM

PC graal isn't dead, it's just idle.

Bell 07-28-2011 12:59 AM

I remember people saying Graal is dying since the NPC server was first put in place. Either this is one long, dramatic death or people don't understand what death is. Graal doesn't die, it just goes into torpor occasionally.

oo_jazz_oo 07-28-2011 01:59 AM

There are over 300 players spread throughout PC Graal, right now.

There are 101 players on facebook Graal.

Looks like Facebook Graal is dead, time to close it.

Geno 07-28-2011 02:56 AM

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...aVFjRGVAazyl7g

ThomV 07-28-2011 11:54 AM

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9822/yesgx.jpg

Crono 07-28-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bell (Post 1660646)
I remember people saying Graal is dying since the NPC server was first put in place. Either this is one long, dramatic death or people don't understand what death is. Graal doesn't die, it just goes into torpor occasionally.

Well, they weren't exactly wrong. It wasn't until iClassic came out that Graal's playerworld began to increase, even by a little bit. Before that it was just in a steady decline.


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